Trump MAGAthread II: Donald and Mike go to the White House

[The Rich Port]

Trump senior communications pick plagiarized large sections of her book, apparently.

[Patridam]

Oh, if they only knew what was in store for them 25 years later.....

[Lady Scylla]

Well, considering Nixon was awful to begin with, and then Watergate, and then the stuff that came out recently over his sabotage in Vietnam.

Hmmm.....

I'm not sure whether to be saddened that the American presidency is so susceptible to corruption, or contented in the fact that Trump will likely implode due to a legal/political scandal.

If that happens. Remember the part this election where it came out that Hillary had huge support among women, and some female Trump supporters were honestly saying they'd give up their right to vote if it meant he'd win?

[Lady Scylla]

It actually wasn't that bad a movie, either. I liked it.

They cut out too much, in my opinion...shame that the best books in that series aren't going to get movies anytime soon.

They're different media. There are things you just can't tell in a movie that you can in a book, and vice versa. Plot-wise, time is also an issue.

[Patridam]

I'm not sure whether to be saddened that the American presidency is so susceptible to corruption, or contented in the fact that Trump will likely implode due to a legal/political scandal.

I don't know about that. He's already shown, through the campaign, that he can weather most any political or legal scandal. You would think Trump University and the grabbing audio would be enough to take down a politician.... of course, you might also think that Hillary's many scandals would have been able to implode her campaign and ruin her future in politics, but they haven't. Maybe we just have a higher tolerance for scandal these days?

[Lalaki]

I'm not sure whether to be saddened that the American presidency is so susceptible to corruption, or contented in the fact that Trump will likely implode due to a legal/political scandal.

I don't know about that. He's already shown, through the campaign, that he can whether most any political or legal scandal. You would think Trump University and the grabbing audio would be enough to take down a politician.... of course, you might also think that Hillary's many scandals would have been able to implode her campaign and ruin her future in politics, but they haven't. Maybe we just have a higher tolerance for scandal these days?

Honestly it infuriates me.

You guys had so many good-hearted statespeople running for POTUS this year. Rubio, Kasich, Walker, Paul, etc. I disagree to the bone with them but I can respect their authority as leader of the free world. Trump is a demagogic, hateful, detestable person who has no business near the White House.

It makes me more mad when I think that my party could have nominated Bernie. We could have begged Biden to enter the race, or Warren. Instead we got Clinton.

[The Rich Port]

OK, I gotta say...

Part of the reason Trump won is that he was, surprisingly enough, THE BEST REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.

... If you stopped, blinked slowly multiple times, stood up, took about 5 seconds to realize what that means, then you had the appropriate response.

Rubio? Hell no. Would have been way worse than Trump. Cruz? Awful. Just awful. Paul fucking Ryan? Makes me wanna throw up just thinking about it.

So, no wonder I didn't have such an extreme reaction when Trump won. We honestly, probably got off easy.

[Lalaki]

OK, I gotta say...

Part of the reason Trump won is that he was, surprisingly enough, THE BEST REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.

... If you stopped, blinked slowly multiple times, stood up, took about 5 seconds to realize what that means, then you had the appropriate response.

Rubio? Hell no. Would have been way worse than Trump. Cruz? Awful. Just awful. Paul fucking Ryan? Makes me wanna throw up just thinking about it.

Woah, hang on there.

How on Earth is Trump better than Rubio? Rubio has a record of working effectively with both Republicans and Democrats in Senate, maintained himself well when running for office, and his policy positions were expected of any Republican. I don't recall him ever supporting mass deportation or a Muslim registry, nor do I remember him shamelessly insulting fellow Americans.

[Corrian]

So we're due for some massive civil unrest by 2020, if history is anything to go off of (every 50 years something bad, apparently)

The year of the purple nurple?

Its one of those typical "Oh my god he predicted it" sort of things, but some scientist guy predicted we're due for that in 2010, and he said Trump winning just solidified that as a possibility even further.

And, by the way, Europe was included in this, and look at Europe right now.

[The Rich Port]

OK, I gotta say...

Part of the reason Trump won is that he was, surprisingly enough, THE BEST REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.

... If you stopped, blinked slowly multiple times, stood up, took about 5 seconds to realize what that means, then you had the appropriate response.

Rubio? Hell no. Would have been way worse than Trump. Cruz? Awful. Just awful. Paul fucking Ryan? Makes me wanna throw up just thinking about it.

Woah, hang on there.

How on Earth is Trump better than Rubio? Rubio has a record of working effectively with both Republicans and Democrats in Senate, maintained himself well when running for office, and his policy positions were expected of any Republican. I don't recall him ever supporting mass deportation or a Muslim registry, nor do I remember him shamelessly insulting fellow Americans.

Honestly, maybe it's just that I live in Florida and have had to put up with the emotionless bastard more, but... He didn't maintain himself that well.

[36 Camera Perspective]

OK, I gotta say...

Part of the reason Trump won is that he was, surprisingly enough, THE BEST REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.

... If you stopped, blinked slowly multiple times, stood up, took about 5 seconds to realize what that means, then you had the appropriate response.

Rubio? Hell no. Would have been way worse than Trump. Cruz? Awful. Just awful. Paul fucking Ryan? Makes me wanna throw up just thinking about it.

So, no wonder I didn't have such an extreme reaction when Trump won. We honestly, probably got off easy.

Not even Kasich?

[Hostenia]

OK, I gotta say...

Part of the reason Trump won is that he was, surprisingly enough, THE BEST REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.

... If you stopped, blinked slowly multiple times, stood up, took about 5 seconds to realize what that means, then you had the appropriate response.

Rubio? Hell no. Would have been way worse than Trump. Cruz? Awful. Just awful. Paul fucking Ryan? Makes me wanna throw up just thinking about it.

So, no wonder I didn't have such an extreme reaction when Trump won. We honestly, probably got off easy.

Not even Kasich?

Kasich sadly wasn't tapping into the anger, he was trying to tamp it down.
I liked him but he wasn't "the best Red candidate" by whatever metric.

[The Rich Port]

OK, I gotta say...

Part of the reason Trump won is that he was, surprisingly enough, THE BEST REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.

... If you stopped, blinked slowly multiple times, stood up, took about 5 seconds to realize what that means, then you had the appropriate response.

Rubio? Hell no. Would have been way worse than Trump. Cruz? Awful. Just awful. Paul fucking Ryan? Makes me wanna throw up just thinking about it.

So, no wonder I didn't have such an extreme reaction when Trump won. We honestly, probably got off easy.

Not even Kasich?

At least Trump wasn't a fucking investment banker from Lehman Brothers.

Although, yeah, now I feel sort of bad for the old skeleton... Considering Trump apparently is trying to purge the Ohio Republican Party:

http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index ... _by_d.html

[Gauthier]

Not even Kasich?

At least Trump wasn't a fucking investment banker from Lehman Brothers.

Although, yeah, now I feel sort of bad for the old skeleton... Considering Trump apparently is trying to purge the Ohio Republican Party:

http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index ... _by_d.html

Just what we need, a petty vindictive chief executive.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

OK, I gotta say...

Part of the reason Trump won is that he was, surprisingly enough, THE BEST REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.

... If you stopped, blinked slowly multiple times, stood up, took about 5 seconds to realize what that means, then you had the appropriate response.

Rubio? Hell no. Would have been way worse than Trump. Cruz? Awful. Just awful. Paul fucking Ryan? Makes me wanna throw up just thinking about it.

So, no wonder I didn't have such an extreme reaction when Trump won. We honestly, probably got off easy.

But what about Jeb!

[Lady Scylla]

And this is what I see wrong with American culture

I feel like I'm staring at a Breitbart tabloid.

[Maineiacs]

Well, to be fair, it was either her or Starship Trooper-man's skeleton.

Only two conservative writers I know about.

Oh, three. Orson Scott Card.

I would say Ann Coulter but she doesn't really count.

Oh and that would be Heinlein

I think zombie-Heinlein would be an improvement over the rest of Trump's picks. I liked most of his books, even if I didn't like his politics.

[Lalaki]

It's all a matter of messaging and perception.

Trump won because he successfully pushed people into believing that he was an anti-establishment crusader who would save this country from destruction. Think about it: "build a wall, #MAGA, end the trade deals, beat China, bring our jobs back!" These things sound good to people who have lost their jobs to outsourcing and are barely getting by. Republicans have manipulated the message in many ways. The Godless liberal communists are coming for your guns, taxing you through the roof, giving weed to kids, supporting welfare queens, and letting criminals off the hook! While this line of reasoning sounds preposterous to us on NSG (both left-wing and right-wing users), it sounds perfectly reasonable to millions of American voters.

Don't get me wrong, this manipulation also exists with the Democrats. But it proliferates to a much lesser degree. When conservatives fear that guns are going to be banned by Obama, they are grossly exaggerating basic measures like background checks (which wouldn't disarm any law-abiding citizen). When liberals fear that abortion rights and health care will be taken away, they're actually looking at Republican policies to appoint conservative SCOTUS judges, defund Planned Parenthood, and repeal Obamacare without a replacement. When conservatives fear that Christians are being persecuted, they're pointing to cases like Kim Davis being sanctioned for refusing to grant same-sex couples marriage licenses even though she was a public judge. When liberals fear that Muslims are being persecuted, they're looking at the growing rate of hate crimes and the real possibility of a Muslim registry under President Trump.

The Young Turks and MSNBC can be very fear-mongering, sure. But Breitbart, Infowars, Fox, and other flash sources take the cake in terms of disinformation.

[Cattle Mutilators]

It's not his IQ that's the issue. His IQ is at the mercy of his emotions, and his emotional development seems to have stopped in his teens. In Donald Trump's world, Donald Trump is the essential center of everything. Everything revolves around him. His need to have his name on everything he owns shows this quite clearly. He has trouble admitting error and he cannot abide people thinking he needed help with any success.

He also can't stand it when people treat him with disrespect.

Which is why I consider it my patriotic duty to trash-talk him and do everything possible to get under his skin, while encouraging my fellow Americans to follow suit. The 74,074,037 of us who didn't vote for him should thumb our noses at him as loudly and frequently as possible. Let's drive the petty tyrant and short-fingered vulgarian to absolute distraction with our utter impudence!

[Hurdergaryp]

It's not his IQ that's the issue. His IQ is at the mercy of his emotions, and his emotional development seems to have stopped in his teens. In Donald Trump's world, Donald Trump is the essential center of everything. Everything revolves around him. His need to have his name on everything he owns shows this quite clearly. He has trouble admitting error and he cannot abide people thinking he needed help with any success.

He also can't stand it when people treat him with disrespect.

Which is why I consider it my patriotic duty to trash-talk him and do everything possible to get under his skin, while encouraging my fellow Americans to follow suit. The 74,074,037 of us who didn't vote for him should thumb our noses at him as loudly and frequently as possible. Let's drive the petty tyrant and short-fingered vulgarian to absolute distraction with our utter impudence!

But where's there a vulgarian, there is also vulgus. Better prepare to deal with those as well.

[Camicon]

It's not his IQ that's the issue. His IQ is at the mercy of his emotions, and his emotional development seems to have stopped in his teens. In Donald Trump's world, Donald Trump is the essential center of everything. Everything revolves around him. His need to have his name on everything he owns shows this quite clearly. He has trouble admitting error and he cannot abide people thinking he needed help with any success.

He also can't stand it when people treat him with disrespect.

Which is why I consider it my patriotic duty to trash-talk him and do everything possible to get under his skin, while encouraging my fellow Americans to follow suit. The 74,074,037 of us who didn't vote for him should thumb our noses at him as loudly and frequently as possible. Let's drive the petty tyrant and short-fingered vulgarian to absolute distraction with our utter impudence!

"Supposed Billionaire and Smaller-Hands-than-Average Senior Citizen, Donald 'Loser of the Popular Vote' Trump"?

[New haven america]

Doesn't look like anyone's posted this:

https://audioboom.com/posts/5471405-the-trumpster-quote-1?t=0

Mark Hamill's been having fun.

[Salandriagado]

There's a contract of absurdity? Where do I sign up?

You're always going to have a higher civil authority. Welcome to reality.

My problem is not in submitting to a higher authority, my problem is in doing so without consent.

So you would rather live in total anarchy?

Anarcho-capitalism, for as appealing as it is, would only fall back on the same predicaments I've mentioned ad nauseam.
Voluntaryism is nice, as is Agorism.

You do consent. By continuing to live here, you give your ongoing consent. You have, at any time, the right to move elsewhere and thereby cease to have to pay said taxes.

Oh,oh, I got it: Bill O' Reilly! Both a writer AND a pundit; and a die hard conservative!

I was thinking more fiction writers, but sure. I hear his "Killing" books are actually rather good.

... So, hey... Did you guys know that they made an Ender's Game movie.

... Cuz I somehow missed that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game_(film)

Huh, I wonder why Trump didn't pick Card. He's a Mormon and everything.

Yeah, it's OK, but misses the fucking point horribly at the end.

[Vassenor]

So apparently on the campaign trail Trump made almost 170 references to WikiLeaks in various speeches. Now he's claiming they had no influence on the outcome.

Weird.

[Hurdergaryp]

So apparently on the campaign trail Trump made almost 170 references to WikiLeaks in various speeches. Now he's claiming they had no influence on the outcome.

Weird.

It is all perfectly logical according to the science of Trumpology.