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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:56 pm

Easy to debunk, Just's ask them to point to the edge. :)
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:56 pm

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The Burj Khalifa shows that the earth is round and is not just a fish eye.

And yet, you haven't provided any evidence to support that claim.


I did, it was that third image I posted.

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Postby Esternial » Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:57 pm

This is what Flat Earth Society is to me:

Look at this GIF
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At first glance, it looks like that car is about to run into those small poles. However, when the angle changes, they reveal themselves to be painted on the floor.

When you apply Flat Earth Society's reasoning to this GIF, you'd have to say the following and really believe it:
1) "NO YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE CAMERA ANGLE"
2) "NO THAT CAR IS SUPPOSED TO CRASH"

Ignoring scientific evidence while strictly sticking to a narrow and spare collection of pseudoscience which they themselves call "empirical evidence". They look at the picture from one angle and derive all their conclusions from that. Utter tripe.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:00 pm

Esternial wrote:This is what Flat Earth Society is to me:

Look at this GIF


At first glance, it looks like that car is about to run into those small poles. However, when the angle changes, they reveal themselves to be painted on the floor.

When you apply Flat Earth Society's reasoning to this GIF, you'd have to say the following and really believe it:
1) "NO YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE CAMERA ANGLE"
2) "NO THAT CAR IS SUPPOSED TO CRASH"

Ignoring scientific evidence while strictly sticking to a narrow and spare collection of pseudoscience which they themselves call "empirical evidence". They look at the picture from one angle and derive all their conclusions from that. Utter tripe.

Right now, I'm pondering whether the two other poles are painted or maybe they're real.
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Postby Balochistan and New York » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:06 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Esternial wrote:This is what Flat Earth Society is to me:

Look at this GIF


At first glance, it looks like that car is about to run into those small poles. However, when the angle changes, they reveal themselves to be painted on the floor.

When you apply Flat Earth Society's reasoning to this GIF, you'd have to say the following and really believe it:
1) "NO YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE CAMERA ANGLE"
2) "NO THAT CAR IS SUPPOSED TO CRASH"

Ignoring scientific evidence while strictly sticking to a narrow and spare collection of pseudoscience which they themselves call "empirical evidence". They look at the picture from one angle and derive all their conclusions from that. Utter tripe.

Right now, I'm pondering whether the two other poles are painted or maybe they're real.

same here lol
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:12 pm

Well I've gotten on a plane bound west and headed east, and a plane heading east and ending west, so I'd say it's pretty round. Hard to prove the world flat when many people casually circumnavigate it
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:15 pm

The flat earth society has members all around the globe.

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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:39 pm

Of all the diverse brands of batshit crazy, flat-earthers definitely rank among the top by my book, considering how scholars generally agreed on Earth's sphericity already in the 12th century.
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Postby Engleberg » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:41 pm

This...this is actually a thread?

Earth ain't flat, simple as that.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:41 pm

Imperium Sidhicum wrote:Of all the diverse brands of batshit crazy, flat-earthers definitely rank among the top by my book, considering how scholars generally agreed on Earth's sphericity already in the 12th century.

Fuck, didn't the Ancient Greeks figure out? Like Zeus worshiping, naked Greeks? Like, it's pretty much a done proven fact.
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Postby Anollasia » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:49 pm

-Do you believe the Earth is flat?

No.

Do you believe that NASA and the UN are trying to cover anything up?

No (at least not when it comes to the Earth being flat).

-If not, do you feel that people who believe in a Flat Earth are unbased in their assumptions (there could never fathomably be a coverup of this magnitude, etc.)? Many people only pretend to believe in it as a joke, because that's the Internet for you. Those who do actually believe it...I don't know. They probably think "everything you know is wrong and the government covers it up so people won't cause a commotion" or something like that. I don't know really. I'd say they're unbased though.
Is there any evidence that you feel people on the other side of the argument ignore? http://physics.stackexchange.com/questi ... h-is-round
Why do you think people who believe in a Flat Earth consider the idea to be credible? (What could've created a mistrust/ disconnect between them and the organizations they discredit?) I kind of elaborated on that 2 questions before. I guess they're just really skeptical of things, even things that are commonly accepted.

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Postby Anollasia » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:50 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Imperium Sidhicum wrote:Of all the diverse brands of batshit crazy, flat-earthers definitely rank among the top by my book, considering how scholars generally agreed on Earth's sphericity already in the 12th century.

Fuck, didn't the Ancient Greeks figure out? Like Zeus worshiping, naked Greeks? Like, it's pretty much a done proven fact.


Eratosthenes, specifically.

EDIT: Actually, he wasn't the only Greek who did. Whoops. Pythagoras, Aristotle, and Plato all believed in a spherical Earth. Eratosthenes measured the circumference though.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:54 pm

Are NASA engadged in a conspiracy? Of course. We all know they faked the moon landing, they filmed it on Phobos.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:01 pm

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FLAT EARTH
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Recently, I've been hearing a lot about the Flat Earth community between the channels I browse on Youtube. So, I feel like NationStates should have some interesting opinions. Keep it civil, please! I'm here to hear people's opinions out.

A few questions-
    -Do you believe the Earth is flat?
    If so, what is your evidence that it is? Please provide unbiased sources.
    Do you believe that NASA and the UN are trying to cover anything up?
    If so, why would they?

    -If not, do you feel that people who believe in a Flat Earth are unbased in their assumptions (there could never fathomably be a coverup of this magnitude, etc.)?
    Is there any evidence that you feel people on the other side of the argument ignore?
    Why do you think people who believe in a Flat Earth consider the idea to be credible? (What could've created a mistrust/ disconnect between them and the organizations they discredit?)



1. No, I do not. There's enough evidence out there, like photos and satellite footage, of the earth being round.

2. I think that anyone who, in this day and age, still believes in the earth being flat, is a sovereign moron. There's no other way to put it.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:54 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:Easy to debunk, Just's ask them to point to the edge. :)

Well, I think the flat Earthers believe that Antarctica surrounds the edges, while the North Pole is the centre.

Either way, the idea of a flat Earth is dumb. The unscientific nonsense people buy into is astounding.
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Postby Torsiedelle » Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:57 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:Easy to debunk, Just's ask them to point to the edge. :)

Well, I think the flat Earthers believe that Antarctica surrounds the edges, while the North Pole is the centre.

Either way, the idea of a flat Earth is dumb. The unscientific nonsense people buy into is astounding.


yep

Again, as a concept, it actually sounds kind of cool to me, although I eat conspiracy theories up.

But as an actual belief? Nonsense. One can debunk Flat Earth with research of their own. Further scientific evidence is just greater proof that the Earth is round.
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Postby Emericia » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:03 pm

Earth is neither spherical or flat.
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It is a torus.

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Postby Torsiedelle » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:04 pm

Emericia wrote:Earth is neither spherical or flat.
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It is a torus.


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Postby Godular » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:33 pm

MERIZoC wrote:The flat earth society has members all around the globe.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

That's a good one, took me a second.
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Postby Aclion » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:46 pm

Of course the earth is flat. It's round appearance is just an illusion caused by the way mass warps spacetime. Look at the gravitational vector field. It's clearly perpendicular to the surface.(leaving aside topological variation)

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Postby Torsiedelle » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:48 pm

Aclion wrote:Of course the earth is flat. It's round appearance is just an illusion caused by the way mass warps spacetime. Look at the gravitational vector field. It's clearly perpendicular to the surface.(leaving aside topological variation)

:lol2:


And have you ever tried to see the edge of the horizon? No matter how far you go, you look all around you and it's fucking flat, man.

Open you eyes, man, it's all fucking flat.

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Postby Godular » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:18 pm

Torsiedelle wrote:
Aclion wrote:Of course the earth is flat. It's round appearance is just an illusion caused by the way mass warps spacetime. Look at the gravitational vector field. It's clearly perpendicular to the surface.(leaving aside topological variation)

:lol2:


And have you ever tried to see the edge of the horizon? No matter how far you go, you look all around you and it's fucking flat, man.

Open you eyes, man, it's all fucking flat.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE


Space-time is flat, therefore so is the Earth. My logic is irrefutable.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:51 pm

Balochistan and New York wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Right now, I'm pondering whether the two other poles are painted or maybe they're real.

same here lol


Look at the shadows, there real.

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Postby Kaedshi » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:54 pm

Godular wrote:
Torsiedelle wrote:
And have you ever tried to see the edge of the horizon? No matter how far you go, you look all around you and it's fucking flat, man.

Open you eyes, man, it's all fucking flat.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE


Space-time is flat, therefore so is the Earth. My logic is irrefutable.

Because we have irrefutable, indisputable evidence of the shape of space-time. Bcuz things gotta be shapes.
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