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by Intermountain States » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:14 pm
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm a third party voter. Trust me when I say this: Not even a lifetime supply of tacos could convince me to vote for either Hillary or Trump. I suspect I'm not the only third party voter who feels that way. I cost Hillary nothing. I cost Trump nothing. If I didn't vote for third party, I would have written in 'Batman'.
If you try to blame me, I will laugh in your face. I'm glad she lost. I got half my wish. :)
by Western Pacific Territories » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:15 pm
by PLESSUR » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:16 pm
Intermountain States wrote:How many days to players have before their reservation is up?
by Lunas Legion » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:34 pm
by New Granadeseret » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:46 pm
PLessur wrote:Kongo accepted.G-Tech Corporation wrote:Full Name of State: The Federal Dominion of North America
Government: Limited Oligarchic Republic
Capital: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Head of State: HM King George III
Head of Government: John Hanson
General government description: The political system of North America functions much like it does in the present day, save the formal acknowledgement of GB monarch as monarch of the Dominion. One major difference, however, is that voting must be earned either by paying over a certain amount in tax, or military or civil service.
Territory: 13 Colonies + Great Lakes/Canadian possessions of the time, French Louisiana, California, southern Florida, Cuba
Colonies: Nah
Population: ~3.5m
Economic description: The Dominion is mainly based around cottage industry and agriculture, with little in the way of heavy industry or finance. Though import substitution has to some extent allowed the colonies to manufacture goods necessary to the maintenance of their comparative sovereignty, like cannon and musketry, by and large the state is an agricultural one.
Religious description (by class): Though California, Louisiana, and Florida are predominantly of the Latin rite throughout their classes, the rest of the Dominion is predominantly Protestant. This has created some tensions as Protestant immigrants meld with entrenched Catholicism.
Popular ideologies and political beliefs (by class): The upper and merchant classes are predominantly concerned with ensuring the neutrality of the Dominion in European affairs, to maintain the trade ties established. To that extent they are fairly isolationistic and to some degree anti-monarchist, as the King is viewed as being an entangling influence on the Dominion's interests. The lower classes are more fond of the monarchy as a familiar presence ideologically, and more interested in expansion due to the wide migrant influx and desire for their own homesteads.
Military description: The Dominion has only a half dozen frigates of third and fourth rates, along with three river battleships on the Great Lakes. Her military has nearly no professional component, being largely composed of men serving four year tours of duty as volunteers. The Army is deployed primarily along the interior borders, protecting urban areas against Indian attack and pushing back the borders of the Frontier.
Strengths and weaknesses of the military: Not professional, though numerous the military would struggle against European forces. On its own terrain however the Americans have the advantage of easy supply lines compared to those powers which must deal with the logistics of the Atlantic. At sea her forces are well trained after the British naval tradition, but possess only older and less capable ships.
General aims (territorial, etc): Unite North America under the Dominion's flag, pacify the various native nations, maintain good trade ties
Foreign Policy: A dependent of the British Empire, the Dominion shares her enemies and allies.
History: Subjective to a hell of a lot of change based on what others write but, in essence, the French and Indian War resulted in the Dominion earning effective independence from the Empire for its contributions to the war, with the French being expelled from most of North America and their Indian allies being crushed. The War of Spanish Succession ended in Spain selling Florida, Alta California, and Cuba to the young nation to pay her war debts.
You're gonna have to change your claims, as they clash with France. You can speak to Liec about that. You might also want to speak to Kisinger, as he's reserved England, so he might want the 13 colonies. Sorry about this, I'll check.New Granadeseret wrote:
PLessur, do you need a mapmaker? I quite enjoy making maps.
Sure thing, I'll be most grateful.
by Trotza » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:54 pm
by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:08 pm
by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:09 pm
WESTERN PACIFIC TERRITORIES wrote:The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Reserve plz
Surprised you didn't reserve the Polynesians
kid
by New Granadeseret » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:12 pm
by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:15 pm
by Western Pacific Territories » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:29 pm
by New Granadeseret » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:43 pm
by G-Tech Corporation » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:53 pm
by Marquette of Pacific » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:06 pm
Alleniana wrote:Full name of state: not a state but you can call us Brandenburg
Type of government: Absolute monarchy (albeit enlightened)
Capital: Berlin
Head of state: Frederick von Hohenzollern, V Prince-Elector and Margrave of Brandenburg, II Prince-Elector and Duke of Saxony, II Prince-Elector and Duke of Hanover, (III Duke of Prussia [if not claimed]), III Duke of Pomerania, III Duke of Holstein, (III Duke of Schleswig [idk, if not claimed and if I decide to take it]), III Duke of Mecklenburg, II Duke of Oldenburg, III Duke of Magdeburg, III Duke of Anhalt
Head of government: ditto
General government description: An absolute monarchy under the monarch, who technically rules as vassal of the Holy Roman Emperor, but y'know... a centralised and efficient bureaucracy runs the state for said monarch. Generally, not much oddity.
Territory: (Image)
Colonies: I'm not sure what's available; if possible, I'd like the Leeward Antilles, Trinidad & Tobago, the southern half of the Rio de la Plata watershed, Honduras-El Salvador-Costa Rica-Panama-Nicaragua, Venezuela, Australia; this is in order of desirability, strike off what doesn't work. For non-settler colonialism, a port in India, a port in Indonesia, a port in Africa, anywhere will do, I dunno. Colonies are a minor pursuit in general.
Population: 10 million?
Economic description: Largely agricultural interspersed with growing cities; medium to large landholders in most areas, with limited protections for peasants, and increasing consolidation of land. Cities filled with "burghers" are forming as a counterpoint, promoted by the monarchs who find that land-consolidating families can grow too powerful, and to alleviate peasant alienation. Generally prosperous, with introduction of the potato a big boon and increasingly various cash-crop-like enterprises springing up.
Religious description: Pretty uniformly Lutheran; dribs and drabs of Calvinists, Catholics and Anabaptists here and there.
Popular ideologies and political beliefs: Generally supportive of the monarchy project, and tend to share an identity as Low Germans or just Germans (not much nationalism yet), mixed views on having a state church but definitely not secular, overall normies?
Military description: Not as nobility-filled as IRL but still professional, well-funded and highly disciplined as IRL. Filled by conscription from an increasing surplus populace, armed with muskets, uses bayonets, dressed in Berliner Blue (given that Prussia isn't as much of a thing), infantry-based. 100,000 standing in peacetime, 100,000 and growing in reserves. Officer corps filled by merit, with standing army being a good argument against complaints about that. The navy is smol and shit, albeit professional as well.
Strengths and weaknesses of the military: Strengths: discipline, and all that comes with it (civilians like you more when you don't pillage them, prestige because apparently you don't pillage people, scaring the enemy because you're so disciplined, collapsing bridges when you march over them, resisting charges, being able to fire more effectively because you know what you're doing more, more coordinated manoeuvring because same)... that's probably it. I dunno. Weakness: the literal entire navy ayylmao (it's not horrible but it's so SMOL)
General aims: Find way to elevate self to kingdom, neuter nearby threats (Commonwealth probably), nab a few more profitable colonies, take over Germany/HRE/the world
Foreign Policy: depends on who apps around me but it'll probably be based around a kind of balance of power thing, like "hold x and x in check, ally y and y to do so, (eat z while nobody is looking)"
History:
Brandenburg-Prussia as RL history except a wild Brunswick-Luneburg>Hanover forms and we nom Saxony instead of Silesia and we nom Hanover instead of Poland and we fight some brutal burghy wars against Hansa area); this section is WIP unless you wanna accept
by Marquette of Pacific » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:11 pm
PLessur wrote:I'm back, will update the roster soon. I'll check the Ottoman app in a second, but Italy should be a safe bet. Somebody reserved Poland with me privately before, I'll check if they're still going with it though. I'll try start the IC sometime too.
by Trotza » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:13 pm
Marquette of Pacific wrote:PLessur wrote:I'm back, will update the roster soon. I'll check the Ottoman app in a second, but Italy should be a safe bet. Somebody reserved Poland with me privately before, I'll check if they're still going with it though. I'll try start the IC sometime too.
If so, could I reserve Muscovy?
by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:14 pm
New Granadeseret wrote:The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
We worked it out on Discord, hence the paragraph in the history dedicated to establishing a protectorate type thing
... Ok. Seems a bit odd, especially tribal raiders in war canoes still being viable, but that's not my place to judge. I'm just trying to avoid conflicts on the preliminary/reservations map.
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hm, wouldn't Caribs have been decimated by las plagas? Also, wouldn't there be less of them? IIRC most of Haiti's population was imported slaves from Africa to work sugar plantations, and without that population influx the area wouldn't be at the ~half mil it was in this time period.
by G-Tech Corporation » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:21 pm
by Lunas Legion » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:30 pm
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hm, Plessur, I hadn't realized, but there's a conflict between Ik's app and mine- my history has the Brits taking Cuba off of Spain along with Alta California and Florida for pecuniary support in the War of Spanish Succession.
by New Granadeseret » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:33 pm
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:New Granadeseret wrote:
... Ok. Seems a bit odd, especially tribal raiders in war canoes still being viable, but that's not my place to judge. I'm just trying to avoid conflicts on the preliminary/reservations map.
You'd be surprisedG-Tech Corporation wrote:Hm, wouldn't Caribs have been decimated by las plagas? Also, wouldn't there be less of them? IIRC most of Haiti's population was imported slaves from Africa to work sugar plantations, and without that population influx the area wouldn't be at the ~half mil it was in this time period.
This is a bit of a different history. The plagues have likely already come and gone, and whatever mitigation could be taken had been. Having a friendly European power might've also helped, as there are records of natives surviving outbreaks when given access to Western doctors. Furthermore, this isn't just Haiti, but the entirety of Hispaniola as well as half of Cuba. This history also lacks the warfare and enslavement that further decimated native populations, and there is an African slave presence scattered throughout the territory helping to farm things like sugar for the French.
by PLESSUR » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:35 pm
PLessur wrote:Kongo accepted.G-Tech Corporation wrote:Full Name of State: The Federal Dominion of North America
Government: Limited Oligarchic Republic
Capital: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Head of State: HM King George III
Head of Government: John Hanson
General government description: The political system of North America functions much like it does in the present day, save the formal acknowledgement of GB monarch as monarch of the Dominion. One major difference, however, is that voting must be earned either by paying over a certain amount in tax, or military or civil service.
Territory: 13 Colonies + Great Lakes/Canadian possessions of the time, French Louisiana, California, southern Florida, Cuba
Colonies: Nah
Population: ~3.5m
Economic description: The Dominion is mainly based around cottage industry and agriculture, with little in the way of heavy industry or finance. Though import substitution has to some extent allowed the colonies to manufacture goods necessary to the maintenance of their comparative sovereignty, like cannon and musketry, by and large the state is an agricultural one.
Religious description (by class): Though California, Louisiana, and Florida are predominantly of the Latin rite throughout their classes, the rest of the Dominion is predominantly Protestant. This has created some tensions as Protestant immigrants meld with entrenched Catholicism.
Popular ideologies and political beliefs (by class): The upper and merchant classes are predominantly concerned with ensuring the neutrality of the Dominion in European affairs, to maintain the trade ties established. To that extent they are fairly isolationistic and to some degree anti-monarchist, as the King is viewed as being an entangling influence on the Dominion's interests. The lower classes are more fond of the monarchy as a familiar presence ideologically, and more interested in expansion due to the wide migrant influx and desire for their own homesteads.
Military description: The Dominion has only a half dozen frigates of third and fourth rates, along with three river battleships on the Great Lakes. Her military has nearly no professional component, being largely composed of men serving four year tours of duty as volunteers. The Army is deployed primarily along the interior borders, protecting urban areas against Indian attack and pushing back the borders of the Frontier.
Strengths and weaknesses of the military: Not professional, though numerous the military would struggle against European forces. On its own terrain however the Americans have the advantage of easy supply lines compared to those powers which must deal with the logistics of the Atlantic. At sea her forces are well trained after the British naval tradition, but possess only older and less capable ships.
General aims (territorial, etc): Unite North America under the Dominion's flag, pacify the various native nations, maintain good trade ties
Foreign Policy: A dependent of the British Empire, the Dominion shares her enemies and allies.
History: Subjective to a hell of a lot of change based on what others write but, in essence, the French and Indian War resulted in the Dominion earning effective independence from the Empire for its contributions to the war, with the French being expelled from most of North America and their Indian allies being crushed. The War of Spanish Succession ended in Spain selling Florida, Alta California, and Cuba to the young nation to pay her war debts.
You're gonna have to change your claims, as they clash with France. You can speak to Liec about that. You might also want to speak to Kisinger, as he's reserved England, so he might want the 13 colonies. Sorry about this, I'll check.New Granadeseret wrote:
PLessur, do you need a mapmaker? I quite enjoy making maps.
Sure thing, I'll be most grateful.
by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:41 pm
by G-Tech Corporation » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:45 pm
Lunas Legion wrote:G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hm, Plessur, I hadn't realized, but there's a conflict between Ik's app and mine- my history has the Brits taking Cuba off of Spain along with Alta California and Florida for pecuniary support in the War of Spanish Succession.
Slight issue with that; namely, Spain goes to Leopold I rather than Louis XIV.
PLessur wrote:Sorry G, did you see this? There are a few problems with your app already. If you don't mind I would also appreciate a bit more history in your app, to explain how the American Revolution happened and all.
by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:46 pm
New Granadeseret wrote:The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
You'd be surprised
This is a bit of a different history. The plagues have likely already come and gone, and whatever mitigation could be taken had been. Having a friendly European power might've also helped, as there are records of natives surviving outbreaks when given access to Western doctors. Furthermore, this isn't just Haiti, but the entirety of Hispaniola as well as half of Cuba. This history also lacks the warfare and enslavement that further decimated native populations, and there is an African slave presence scattered throughout the territory helping to farm things like sugar for the French.
Actually, given those are my colonies you've been raiding for the last few centuries, and the people there are well established and have seen all your best tricks, I don't think they'd be surprised at all. These aren't the isolated and undermanned outposts of the 16th and early 17th century Carribean here, but people with superior technology and numbers who've been dealing with you for centuries.
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