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by Taviana SSR » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:22 am
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:23 am
Asyir wrote:Depends on how far China is willing to go over Taiwan. If we legitimize the RoC, there's a high degree of probability the PRC may attempt to take Taiwan by force. There's also a high likelihood China's already moving ballistic missiles towards the eastern and southern coastlines after Trump's statements (which were much needed, China needs to be rattled every now and again). The PRC won't tolerate a legitimized Taiwan, saying before that using military force isn't quite off the table.
A Chinese invasion of Taiwan could thrust the US and NATO (at least bits of it) into a skirmish (or full blown war) in the Pacific. This would mean for the first time in history, two nuclear powers would be in direct conflict. It's uncharted territory for sure at that point, and at this point, is probably the most "realistic" scenario involving the use of nuclear weapons.
Of course, none of thus could happen as well.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Dilordaopia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:24 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:Dilordaopia wrote:What i meant was: If Hillary won we would say that it was set up, but you would make fun of us. Just like we make fun of you.
There's literally no reason for the Russians to manipulate Hillary into office.
They'd gain nothing from that. It would not be plausible.
"Your side" proclaimed for weeks if not months that it was fixed against Trump, that the system was rigged that there should be protests about the inevitable rigging.
Then Trump wins and now allegations of vote rigging are dumb and laughable.
Err, no, mate.
by Ardavia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:25 am
Asyir wrote:This would mean for the first time in history, two nuclear powers would be in direct conflict.
by Vektes » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:26 am
Asyir wrote:This would mean for the first time in history, two nuclear powers would be in direct conflict. It's uncharted territory for sure at that point, and at this point, is probably the most "realistic" scenario involving the use of nuclear weapons.
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:27 am
Dilordaopia wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:There's literally no reason for the Russians to manipulate Hillary into office.
They'd gain nothing from that. It would not be plausible.
"Your side" proclaimed for weeks if not months that it was fixed against Trump, that the system was rigged that there should be protests about the inevitable rigging.
Then Trump wins and now allegations of vote rigging are dumb and laughable.
Err, no, mate.
>Implying it has to be Russians who hack
There are hackers everywhere, even in Saudi Arabia, Mali, Pakistan and Burkina Faso m8
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Marxistische Republik von Deutschland » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:28 am
Taviana SSR wrote:The spirit of Mao lives on in the PLA and they will crush any US expansion into Asia and of their ROC puppet will annex them.
Recent News Articles: || Molotov-Kaulitzmann Pact results in bad deal for the Baltics, as each nation is claimed by the USSR and the Reich. Memelland is ceded to the Prussian State, Reverting them to very similar borders to their 1914 equivalency, whilst the Soviets claim Estonia, Latvia, and the Majority of Lithuania, as well as towering amounts of Polish Territory. Much political unrest in Poland devolves into major rioting, and the Polish Government has yet to comment officially on any of this news despite the recent bombings. ||
by Dilordaopia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:29 am
Taviana SSR wrote:China is strong socialist power, will not bow before imperialist criminal Trump. The spirit of Mao lives on in the PLA and they will crush any US expansion into Asia and of their ROC puppet will annex them.
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:31 am
Ardavia wrote:Asyir wrote:This would mean for the first time in history, two nuclear powers would be in direct conflict.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Taviana SSR » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:32 am
Marxistische Republik von Deutschland wrote:Taviana SSR wrote:The spirit of Mao lives on in the PLA and they will crush any US expansion into Asia and of their ROC puppet will annex them.
>Has a quote of Stalin out of context crammed into their Signature
>For and Against reads "For: Josef Stalin"
Do you legitimately think anyone here is going to take your viewpoint seriously in the slightest?
by Asyir » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:33 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:Asyir wrote:Depends on how far China is willing to go over Taiwan. If we legitimize the RoC, there's a high degree of probability the PRC may attempt to take Taiwan by force. There's also a high likelihood China's already moving ballistic missiles towards the eastern and southern coastlines after Trump's statements (which were much needed, China needs to be rattled every now and again). The PRC won't tolerate a legitimized Taiwan, saying before that using military force isn't quite off the table.
A Chinese invasion of Taiwan could thrust the US and NATO (at least bits of it) into a skirmish (or full blown war) in the Pacific. This would mean for the first time in history, two nuclear powers would be in direct conflict. It's uncharted territory for sure at that point, and at this point, is probably the most "realistic" scenario involving the use of nuclear weapons.
Of course, none of thus could happen as well.
Yeah nah. I feel pretty confident in saying that.
If China took Taiwan while the one-China policy was still being pushed, then maybe nothing would happen. Now?
I don't think it'll happen.
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:36 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Yugoslav Memes » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:37 am
Taviana SSR wrote:China is strong socialist power, will not bow before imperialist criminal Trump. The spirit of Mao lives on in the PLA and they will crush any US expansion into Asia and of their ROC puppet will annex them.
by Uxupox » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:39 am
Taviana SSR wrote:China is strong socialist power, will not bow before imperialist criminal Trump. The spirit of Mao lives on in the PLA and they will crush any US expansion into Asia and of their ROC puppet will annex them.
by Kinubanza » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:39 am
Taviana SSR wrote:Marxistische Republik von Deutschland wrote:>Has a quote of Stalin out of context crammed into their Signature
>For and Against reads "For: Josef Stalin"
Do you legitimately think anyone here is going to take your viewpoint seriously in the slightest?
The glorious Red Army and the heroic people of the Soviet Union, under the brilliant leadership of great comrade Stalin, have brought the hordes of Hitler to their knees. Under the blows of the Red Army and the partisans and volunteers of enslaved Europe, the downfall of fascism and the liberation of the peoples was accomplished. Stalin started with a country of analphabet farmers and when he died, left it with nuclear weapons and cosmonauts. Of course, people who believe in fascist propaganda (851 billion dead, at least) dislike him, as they are still sad that Hitler did not win.
by Constantine Lambros » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:43 am
Taviana SSR wrote:(851 billion dead, at least)
by Marxistische Republik von Deutschland » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:44 am
Taviana SSR wrote:The glorious Red Army and the heroic people of the Soviet Union, under the brilliant leadership of great comrade Stalin, have brought the hordes of Hitler to their knees. Under the blows of the Red Army and the partisans and volunteers of enslaved Europe, the downfall of fascism and the liberation of the peoples was accomplished. Stalin started with a country of analphabet farmers and when he died, left it with nuclear weapons and cosmonauts. Of course, people who believe in fascist propaganda (851 billion dead, at least) dislike him, as they are still sad that Hitler did not win.
Recent News Articles: || Molotov-Kaulitzmann Pact results in bad deal for the Baltics, as each nation is claimed by the USSR and the Reich. Memelland is ceded to the Prussian State, Reverting them to very similar borders to their 1914 equivalency, whilst the Soviets claim Estonia, Latvia, and the Majority of Lithuania, as well as towering amounts of Polish Territory. Much political unrest in Poland devolves into major rioting, and the Polish Government has yet to comment officially on any of this news despite the recent bombings. ||
by Flarone » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:45 am
by Asyir » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:47 am
Ardavia wrote:Asyir wrote:This would mean for the first time in history, two nuclear powers would be in direct conflict.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War
Vektes wrote:Asyir wrote:This would mean for the first time in history, two nuclear powers would be in direct conflict. It's uncharted territory for sure at that point, and at this point, is probably the most "realistic" scenario involving the use of nuclear weapons.
Not entirely true.
The Indians and the Pakistanis, both recognized nuclear states at the time and currently, have sparred with a passion on numerous occasions, without the situation degenerating into a nuclear exchange.
by Marxistische Republik von Deutschland » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:47 am
Flarone wrote:nobody is going to start a nuclear war. it just won't happen, because it would end the word... and nobody wants that... i'd worry more about Iran and Israel than the U.S. and Russia... Iran and Israel is religious, and religion kills common sense
Recent News Articles: || Molotov-Kaulitzmann Pact results in bad deal for the Baltics, as each nation is claimed by the USSR and the Reich. Memelland is ceded to the Prussian State, Reverting them to very similar borders to their 1914 equivalency, whilst the Soviets claim Estonia, Latvia, and the Majority of Lithuania, as well as towering amounts of Polish Territory. Much political unrest in Poland devolves into major rioting, and the Polish Government has yet to comment officially on any of this news despite the recent bombings. ||
by Lautrec- » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:49 am
Flarone wrote:nobody is going to start a nuclear war. it just won't happen, because it would end the word... and nobody wants that... i'd worry more about Iran and Israel than the U.S. and Russia... Iran and Israel is religious, and religion kills common sense
by Vektes » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:49 am
Asyir wrote:
A border skirmish. Plus, Pakistan didn't gave full nuclear capability before 1998.This page says their first test was in 1998Vektes wrote:
Not entirely true.
The Indians and the Pakistanis, both recognized nuclear states at the time and currently, have sparred with a passion on numerous occasions, without the situation degenerating into a nuclear exchange.
Again, it's mere border disputes and light skirmishes. It's unlikely to result in a nuclear exchange unless those skirmishes lead to another full blown Indo-Pakistan War.
by Kinubanza » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:50 am
Marxistische Republik von Deutschland wrote:Taviana SSR wrote:The glorious Red Army and the heroic people of the Soviet Union, under the brilliant leadership of great comrade Stalin, have brought the hordes of Hitler to their knees. Under the blows of the Red Army and the partisans and volunteers of enslaved Europe, the downfall of fascism and the liberation of the peoples was accomplished. Stalin started with a country of analphabet farmers and when he died, left it with nuclear weapons and cosmonauts. Of course, people who believe in fascist propaganda (851 billion dead, at least) dislike him, as they are still sad that Hitler did not win.
Buddy, you make me ashamed to call myself a commie.
Are you really gonna pull the "Propaganda" Argument after what you just typed before it?
Yeah, it's only propaganda when the fascists do it, amirite?
The Soviet War Machine needed constant lend leases from the American forces in order to actually stay afloat. Basic things like boots, shovels, and infantry equipment was entirely nonexistant, as the Soviet Military was a good 30 years behind modern Technology.
Although, You are right about the farmers to nukes thing. Stalin was notably gifted in industrially moving Russia to modern tech, but at what cost, really? Constant purges, paranoia, and political silencing (not to mention those gulags) were put to use substantially in order to achieve such an Industrial giant.
And, uh, One more thing... It's estimated around 107 billion people have ever lived (Live and Dead). Not sure how you managed 851 Billion. If you were going for million, the deaths caused by actual fascism (Not ideologies you simply disagree with that happen to be on the right wing, I'm talking actual Fascism, Nationalist Socialism, Militarized Extremism.) has killed around 80 million people in all.
To be quite honest with you?
Germany was an oppressive totalitarian regime that threw people they didn't agree with (and ethnic minorities) into concentration camps.
The USSR was also an oppressive totalitarian regime that threw people they didn't agree with (and ethnic minorities) into concentration camps.
It's only bad when "Muh Fascists" do it, tho, so you're good.
by San Lumen » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:51 am
by Asyir » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:54 am
Vektes wrote:Asyir wrote:A border skirmish. Plus, Pakistan didn't gave full nuclear capability before 1998.This page says their first test was in 1998
Again, it's mere border disputes and light skirmishes. It's unlikely to result in a nuclear exchange unless those skirmishes lead to another full blown Indo-Pakistan War.
Ever had the thought that maybe it was the fact that they had, or were under suspicion of having operational Nuclear Weaponry which prevented these skirmishes from escalating to another full-blown war?
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