TRUMP: Yes, He Even Branded A MAGAthread

[Salandriagado]

Yes it is. Because the options are:

1) Take the refugees in, giving them one hell of a reason to like the USA.
2) Leave them there, both pissing them off and leaving them in a position where they are continually exposed to terrorist recruitment.

One of these leads to an increase in terrorist attacks against the United States. That one should be avoided.

If the whole lot of those refugees -- or even a minority of them -- at least adhere to ideologies unpopular to the masses of beneficent Americans (if not actual terrorists), then they should stay out, lest America become Islamistan.

If the US were taking in 300 million refugees, that might, just might, be an argument. It still wouldn't be a good argument, but there would at least be something there. As it is, there isn't.

[Hittanryan]

Yes it is. Because the options are:

1) Take the refugees in, giving them one hell of a reason to like the USA.
2) Leave them there, both pissing them off and leaving them in a position where they are continually exposed to terrorist recruitment.

One of these leads to an increase in terrorist attacks against the United States. That one should be avoided.

If the whole lot of those refugees -- or even a minority of them -- at least adhere to ideologies unpopular to the masses of beneficent Americans (if not actual terrorists), then they should stay out, lest America become Islamistan.

Hasn't the 2016 election refuted once and for all the paranoid conspiracy theories about "Shariah Law" being imposed in the United States? If a broad coalition of urban liberals, whites, blacks, Latinos, LGBT individuals, and other minorities can't even win a Presidential election with the popular vote, what chance do Muslims stand?

I dunno, Republicans seem pretty willfully ignorant of what got them in power since they're already screwing over coal workers and likely will be doing the same to the rust belt that had their gullible desperation at holding their hope in the WRONG candidate. They could at least pretend to care, but even having talks of cutting those seems like they don't care in the first place.

It's worth noting that fracking is killing coal, and Republicans love fracking. You can't have both. You either cut down on fracking, which will bring oil prices back up and make coal competitive again, or you keep promoting fracking and continue killing the coal industry.

It would be both funny and sad if Big Oil and Big Coal ended up in a bidding war against each other for Republican Congressmen. Funny because I would enjoy the schadenfreude of those greedy, greenhouse gas-emitting, climate change-denying bastards being pitted against one another, sad because of its implications for our democracy.

[Arlenton]

But it is literally not our problem.

Yes it is. Because the options are:

1) Take the refugees in, giving them one hell of a reason to like the USA.
2) Leave them there, both pissing them off and leaving them in a position where they are continually exposed to terrorist recruitment.



One of these leads to an increase in terrorist attacks against the United States. That one should be avoided.

My solution to 2 is drone strikes and occupation.

[Mefpan]

But it is literally not our problem.

Yes it is. Because the options are:

1) Take the refugees in, giving them one hell of a reason to like the USA.
2) Leave them there, both pissing them off and leaving them in a position where they are continually exposed to terrorist recruitment.



One of these leads to an increase in terrorist attacks against the United States. That one should be avoided.

Europe tried Option 1, and look at how much they like us!

[Aelex]

Europe tried Option 1, and look at how much they like us!

Given what happened in Cologne, I would daresay that they like us a little bit too much; in fact.

[Ashmoria]

Oh stop it, no one is going to form a fucking death squad to go after YOU, Gauth.

Nah, they'll only have to gut Medicare and Medicaid like they've always had a hard-on for doing.

Look on the bright side, gives you something to look forward to.

if they repeal Obamacare we are ALL in a world of hurt. everyone who got insurance--not just the Medicaid people--got tested and treated for a variety of ailments. all those people who found out they are diabetic or who had a minor cancer that was taken care of will never get insurance again. my idiot brother in law voted for trump after he had a major heart attack. president trump isn't going to make sure that he will get insurance.

and, of course, one of the reason we HAD to have insurance reform was that the cost curve was so bad that it would bankrupt medicare in 10 years. get rid of (almost) universal coverage and that cost curve comes back and, oops, you have to send money to grandma so she doesnt die from not being able to pay her medical bills. there goes your retirement fund. but hey, at least we'll be free.

[Ashmoria]

Nah, they'll only have to gut Medicare and Medicaid like they've always had a hard-on for doing.

Look on the bright side, gives you something to look forward to.

You've convinced yourself so utterly that you are being targeted that it isn't funny. How paranoid can you seriously be?

you might want to check the plans that the congressional republicans have. it is exactly that.

[Ashmoria]

Except he may literally rely on Medicare, Medicaid, or whatever to live, you know.

I somehow doubt that Congress will get rid of medicare, for a very particular reason. You could expect a wave of elderly support for democrats in the wake of such a thing, and given that the older people tend to be more republican voters, that would likely be political suicide.

Donald Trump may be fucking stupid enough to endorse such a thing (although he previously said he wouldn't cut medicare), but Paul Ryan isn't... I think.

i don't know if they have the balls to go through with it but the ryan plan has been to keep current medicare for those over 55 and voucherize it for the rest when they reach medicare age.

if old people don't care about their middle aged children or are too stupid to see through the lies that will be put out about how its going to be great they could totally support such a disastrous plan.

[Ifreann]

Well apparently many of his buildings look golden in a certain light among other things. Though I think Doug Staker is a modernist

Honestly, I think the more important 'Trump architecture' story should be about his tower in Panama City*.
That, ladies and gentlemen of NSG, is a vagina.
What the fuck Trump**?

*designed by Arias Serna Seravia
**Arias Serna Seravia

That's the second biggest vagina I've ever seen.

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1. Humanitarian crisis. It's humanity's problem. I'm not interested in your childish tribalism.

But it is literally not our problem.

You're saying that Americans aren't human?

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Quick question: How is me using this :^) emoji racist?

I'll give a hug to whoever provides a compelling argument. :3

The nose is too Eurocentric. It implies that a more pointed nose is the norm, when in reality, it is not because it leaves out Africans, Asians, and other people of color, while focusing on the more pointed nose of Europeans.
And also, the background of the face is white, and we are unable to change this because it is black text on a white background. So a "white" face is the only face color represented.


Get with the times, bigot.

Of course it's white. It's a snowman.

Why else would it have a caret for a nose?

[Salandriagado]

Yes it is. Because the options are:

1) Take the refugees in, giving them one hell of a reason to like the USA.
2) Leave them there, both pissing them off and leaving them in a position where they are continually exposed to terrorist recruitment.



One of these leads to an increase in terrorist attacks against the United States. That one should be avoided.

Europe tried Option 1, and look at how much they like us!

Because obviously, that's nothing to do with all the bombings.

Yes it is. Because the options are:

1) Take the refugees in, giving them one hell of a reason to like the USA.
2) Leave them there, both pissing them off and leaving them in a position where they are continually exposed to terrorist recruitment.



One of these leads to an increase in terrorist attacks against the United States. That one should be avoided.

My solution to 2 is drone strikes and occupation.

Which doesn't work. As ably demonstrated by the last few decades.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Yes it is. Because the options are:

1) Take the refugees in, giving them one hell of a reason to like the USA.
2) Leave them there, both pissing them off and leaving them in a position where they are continually exposed to terrorist recruitment.



One of these leads to an increase in terrorist attacks against the United States. That one should be avoided.

Europe tried Option 1, and look at how much they like us!

A lot, actually.

[Ifreann]

Europe tried Option 1, and look at how much they like us!

Because obviously, that's nothing to do with all the bombings.

My solution to 2 is drone strikes and occupation.

Which doesn't work. As ably demonstrated by the last few decades.

I love that the proposed solution to a refugee crisis is to bomb the refugees and occupy their country.

[Gauthier]

Because obviously, that's nothing to do with all the bombings.



Which doesn't work. As ably demonstrated by the last few decades.

I love that the proposed solution to a refugee crisis is to bomb the refugees and occupy their country.

Especially the country that right-wingers are cheering on the despotic jackass who triggered the refugee crisis to begin with.

[Zurkerx]

So, I am hearing that Rex Tillerson is likely going to be Trump's pick for Sec of State

Yeah, he can definitely do better.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

So, I am hearing that Rex Tillerson is likely going to be Trump's pick for Sec of State

Yeah, he can definitely do better.

An oil CEO who has extensive business ties in Russia, and has been trying to work a half-trillion dollar deal there that's been blocked by the State Department being put in charge of the State Department? The one who has no known diplomatic experience? That guy?

I can't imagine how anyone could see this as a bad idea.

[Ashmoria]

So, I am hearing that Rex Tillerson is likely going to be Trump's pick for Sec of State

Yeah, he can definitely do better.

putin probably suggested him.

[PaNTuXIa]

So, I am hearing that Rex Tillerson is likely going to be Trump's pick for Sec of State

Yeah, he can definitely do better.

putin probably suggested him.

I like how that's all the left and MSM can think of.

He's the fucking CEO of ExxonMobil. Does this not bother anyone?

[Ashmoria]

putin probably suggested him.

I like how that's all the left and MSM can think of.

He's the fucking CEO of ExxonMobil. Does this not bother anyone?

you mean that being the head of an international corporation is worse than having been blocked in a huge deal with Russia by Russian sanctions?

[Greed and Death]

Nah, they'll only have to gut Medicare and Medicaid like they've always had a hard-on for doing.

Look on the bright side, gives you something to look forward to.

if they repeal Obamacare we are ALL in a world of hurt. everyone who got insurance--not just the Medicaid people--got tested and treated for a variety of ailments. all those people who found out they are diabetic or who had a minor cancer that was taken care of will never get insurance again. my idiot brother in law voted for trump after he had a major heart attack. president trump isn't going to make sure that he will get insurance.

and, of course, one of the reason we HAD to have insurance reform was that the cost curve was so bad that it would bankrupt medicare in 10 years. get rid of (almost) universal coverage and that cost curve comes back and, oops, you have to send money to grandma so she doesnt die from not being able to pay her medical bills. there goes your retirement fund. but hey, at least we'll be free.

You inability to compromise on the mandate is to blame for this.

Anyways far better we let these govnerment programs fail than force people to buy insurance they do not want.

[Socialist Nordia]

So, the next thread is coming. We need a good name. How about:

TRUMP MAGAthread II: It Just Got 10 Feet Higher

TRUMP MAGAthread II: Get Out of My Swamp

TRUMP MAGAthread II: Is the Pivot Coming Yet?

TRUMP MAGAthread II: When Will the Nightmare End?

[Greed and Death]

So, I am hearing that Rex Tillerson is likely going to be Trump's pick for Sec of State

Yeah, he can definitely do better.

An oil CEO who has extensive business ties in Russia, and has been trying to work a half-trillion dollar deal there that's been blocked by the State Department being put in charge of the State Department? The one who has no known diplomatic experience? That guy?

I can't imagine how anyone could see this as a bad idea.

CEO of a multinational corporation is diplomatic experience enough.

[Vassenor]

if they repeal Obamacare we are ALL in a world of hurt. everyone who got insurance--not just the Medicaid people--got tested and treated for a variety of ailments. all those people who found out they are diabetic or who had a minor cancer that was taken care of will never get insurance again. my idiot brother in law voted for trump after he had a major heart attack. president trump isn't going to make sure that he will get insurance.

and, of course, one of the reason we HAD to have insurance reform was that the cost curve was so bad that it would bankrupt medicare in 10 years. get rid of (almost) universal coverage and that cost curve comes back and, oops, you have to send money to grandma so she doesnt die from not being able to pay her medical bills. there goes your retirement fund. but hey, at least we'll be free.

You inability to compromise on the mandate is to blame for this.

Anyways far better we let these govnerment programs fail than force people to buy insurance they do not want.

And to hell with how many people end up dead as a result.

[Dushan]

putin probably suggested him.

I like how that's all the left and MSM can think of.

He's the fucking CEO of ExxonMobil. Does this not bother anyone?

Thats because the MSM has associated itself too much with the "Oh those Russians" clintonist narratives.

And as for ExxonMobile CEO's, Trumps preferences for heavy old-industry Business figures were known well before the Election. It also predates the introduction of the DrainTheSwamp meme as well, which I do assume was the Brainchild of Steve Bannon.

[Ashmoria]

if they repeal Obamacare we are ALL in a world of hurt. everyone who got insurance--not just the Medicaid people--got tested and treated for a variety of ailments. all those people who found out they are diabetic or who had a minor cancer that was taken care of will never get insurance again. my idiot brother in law voted for trump after he had a major heart attack. president trump isn't going to make sure that he will get insurance.

and, of course, one of the reason we HAD to have insurance reform was that the cost curve was so bad that it would bankrupt medicare in 10 years. get rid of (almost) universal coverage and that cost curve comes back and, oops, you have to send money to grandma so she doesnt die from not being able to pay her medical bills. there goes your retirement fund. but hey, at least we'll be free.

You inability to compromise on the mandate is to blame for this.

Anyways far better we let these govnerment programs fail than force people to buy insurance they do not want.

yeah that is what made the difference.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

An oil CEO who has extensive business ties in Russia, and has been trying to work a half-trillion dollar deal there that's been blocked by the State Department being put in charge of the State Department? The one who has no known diplomatic experience? That guy?

I can't imagine how anyone could see this as a bad idea.

CEO of a multinational corporation is diplomatic experience enough.

It's really not. They share many aspects, and there's some overlap in the skill set, but they require different approaches, different jperspectives, and different areas of study and expertise. An argument could even be made that a background in business is good preparation for a diplomatic career, but there also has to be some government experience, as well, hopefully with a foreign policy focus.