Game of Thrones: A King Who Bore the Sword [OOC/Concluded]

by **Vladivostokava** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:03 am

Sorry, the government shut my VPN down today in a temporary crackdown, they fixed it so I am back on.

Vladivostokava wrote:[box]
Lady Blacklocke of Blackreach

Give the ax a name first, and I'll allow the Valyrian Axe, but only if it's just the edge of the ax that's Valyrian Steel. Besides that everything looks fine, but you're not the Lady, your son is the Lord. You are the Lady Dowager/Regent. You still have power, but until your son comes of age you're basically in charge. Also you're not vassals of the Starks, you're vassals of the Reeds since they are the High Lords of the Neck. Make these changes and you're accepted.

Vladivostokava wrote:When will IC be up?

When ever someone asks this question I always reply with the same response.[/quote]

-I will have a name. Give me a little bit.
-I am inclined to disagree with not being a lady, even the daughters of Lord Whitehill are called, 'Lady' and they are under house Forrester. (I may be mistaken but I just finished the video game: Game of Thrones by A Telltale Games, and they referred to some of the minor house women as 'lady'.
-A second point towards the former; I have not yet killed Lord Grenn yet.
-Also I would aupe people would still use her title of 'lady' even if she is only a regent for her son, possibly out of respect. Just my opinion.
-Your point about the Reeds, I understand. I will change that right away.
-Apologies for asking about IC. I am just excited, I already have my first post and half of my second written up.

by **Kernan** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:13 am

Vladivostokava wrote:Sorry, the government shut my VPN down today in a temporary crackdown, they fixed it so I am back on. ]

Crackdown against what? The dirty Commies!

by **Argentumurbem** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:19 am

Vladivostokava wrote:-I am inclined to disagree with not being a lady, even the daughters of Lord Whitehill are called, 'Lady' and they are under house Forrester. (I may be mistaken but I just finished the video game: Game of Thrones by A Telltale Games, and they referred to some of the minor house women as 'lady'.
-A second point towards the former; I have not yet killed Lord Grenn yet.
-Also I would aupe people would still use her title of 'lady' even if she is only a regent for her son, possibly out of respect. Just my opinion.
-Your point about the Reeds, I understand. I will change that right away.
-Apologies for asking about IC. I am just excited, I already have my first post and half of my second written up.

Don't listen to anything that comes outside of canon.

That being said, yeah she would still be referred to as a lady (if she were the daughter of a lord previously) out of affiliation to the reigning lord(s). Basically she retains her status equal to that of her father in terms of address. Tyrion is called Lord, for example, while Lysa and Catelyn are ladies. They are LP relatives for sure but Georgie doesn't distinguish between various feudal ranks. If she is from a Masterly (knightly) House, her being called Lady would only function as a formality, as she doesn't have the rank of lady. I mean its very vague. However her authority would be that of regent, and only if she was politically powerful enough to match the male court members. If there was a male relative of the young lord, most times he would be regarded as the final voice of authority. No one likes taking orders from women.

For the record off the top of my head I can recall a couple ladys who are mentioned as having ruled their house in their own right: Cream-Cheese Oakheart, Sulking Whent, Cra Cra Batshit Lothston, Everchanging Flint of Widows Watch, Queen Regent Lannister, Fanfic Webber, but obviously they are actual offspring of a lord patriarch of the houses in question. The interesting one: Lannister, has children who don't receive the titles, but that can be chalked up to royalty.

by **The Valyria Empire** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:29 am

Argentumurbem wrote:
Vladivostokava wrote:-I am inclined to disagree with not being a lady, even the daughters of Lord Whitehill are called, 'Lady' and they are under house Forrester. (I may be mistaken but I just finished the video game: Game of Thrones by A Telltale Games, and they referred to some of the minor house women as 'lady'.
-A second point towards the former; I have not yet killed Lord Grenn yet.
-Also I would aupe people would still use her title of 'lady' even if she is only a regent for her son, possibly out of respect. Just my opinion.
-Your point about the Reeds, I understand. I will change that right away.
-Apologies for asking about IC. I am just excited, I already have my first post and half of my second written up.
Don't listen to anything that comes outside of canon.

That being said, yeah she would still be referred to as a lady (if she were the daughter of a lord previously) out of affiliation to the reigning lord(s). Basically she retains her status equal to that of her father in terms of address. Tyrion is called Lord, for example, while Lysa and Catelyn are ladies. They are LP relatives for sure but Georgie doesn't distinguish between various feudal ranks. If she is from a Masterly (knightly) House, her being called Lady would only function as a formality, as she doesn't have the rank of lady. I mean its very vague. However her authority would be that of regent, and only if she was politically powerful enough to match the male court members. If there was a male relative of the young lord, most times he would be regarded as the final voice of authority. No one likes taking orders from women.

For the record off the top of my head I can recall a couple ladys who are mentioned as having ruled their house in their own right: Cream-Cheese Oakheart, Sulking Whent, Cra Cra Batshit Lothston, Everchanging Flint of Widows Watch, Queen Regent Lannister, Fanfic Webber, but obviously they are actual offspring of a lord patriarch of the houses in question. The interesting one: Lannister, has children who don't receive the titles, but that can be chalked up to royalty.

George also admitted that he forgot to add another feudal rank between Lords and Lord Paramounts (I.E the High Lords like Reeds, Yronwood, Dayne, Dondarrion, etc.) and thus all Lords are just called Lords.

I have his character down as Lady Dowager in the roster but I expected everyone to call her Lady. I thought he was referring to Lady as in he was the head of the house and Lady of the seat.

by **Phalnia** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:49 am

House Name: Velaryon
House Sigil:

House Words: The Old, the True, the Brave
Allegiance Paid to: House Targaryen
House Seat: High Tide
Approx Number of military at command: 800 men, 60 galleys
History of the House: The Velaryons have the blood of Old Valyria flowing through their veins. Despite the fact that they were never dragonlords, the Velaryons dominated trade through the Narrow Sea and commanded a vast fleet while their Targaryen allies controlled the skies. The two houses maintained close ties with marriages intermingling their blood. When Aegon called upon men for his War of Conquest Driftmark answered. Lord Daemon Velaryon served as the first Master of Ships, while his brother Ser Corlys Velaryon was the First Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.

The Velaryon's reached their zenith of power under the leadership of the 'Sea Snake', Corlys Velaryon. It was said that Corlys had sailed to the four corners of the world and he had the treasure to prove it. So great was his wealth that it rivaled that of the Lannisters and Hightowers. At the time the Velaryons were closely intertwined with the Targaryens, with Corlys being wed to Princess Rhaenys, and his son, Laenor, being wed to Princess Rhaenyra and having three sons with her. So when the Dance of Dragons began the Velaryon's were caught in the center. Lord Corlys was a staunch supporter of Queen Rhaenyra, though with the wasteful death of his wife his support began to wane. The Targaryen's bought the Sea Snake's favor by naming him Hand and legitimizing two of his late son's bastards. This tenuous alliance would again be broken when Rhaenyra began to suspect one of the boys of treason and attempted to have him imprisoned. Lord Corlys warned the boy in time for him to escape and was imprisoned himself.

Lord Corlys was pardoned by Rhaenyra's rival, Aegon II, a decree that was allowed to stand by Lord Cregan Stark, following Aegon's death. Not long after Corlys died and was succeeded by his legitimized grandson, Alyn of Hull. Lord Alyn went to great strides to improve his family's standings following the terrible losses in the Dance. He wed his niece to his cousin King Aegon III and won great honors for his victories against pirates in the Stepstones, Ironborn in the Westerlands, and against the Dornish in Daeron's Conquest of Dorne.

Lord Alyn vanished at sea some years ago leaving behind four children. His true-born son and daughter, Symon and Baela, as well as two bastards Jon and Jeyne Waters. This leaves Symon as the leader of House Velaryon and Master of Driftmark.

App:
Name: Symon Velaryon
House: Velaryon
Age: 57
Gender: Male
Titles: Lord of the Tides, Master of Driftmark
House Seat: High Tide
House Sigil:

Allegiance paid to: Targaryen
Appearance: Symon has the traditional features of those born of Valyrian stock, silver hair and purple eyes; though age has thinned his hair and dulled his eyes. In addition Lord Velaryon is a tall man with the strong limbs of a life spent aboard a ship.
Personality: Symon is a brave soul who in his youth was the first in the fray, his flagship at the helm of every fleet action. He covets the wealth and power once held by the Sea Snake and the other fabled Velaryons. His quest for gold often intersects with the well-being of his family and causes great turmoil for Symon.
Skills: Skilled admiral and commander, average fighter, master diplomat.
Weaponry: Bastard sword
Military Strength: 800 men, 60 galleys
Biography: Symon Velaryon was born to Lord Alyn Oakenfist and his wife, Baela Targaryen. He was raised on the tales of the Dance of Dragons, and the likes of the Sea Snake, Addam of Hull, and the others legends of house Velaryon. He spent a great deal of time at sea, sailing with the Velaryon fleet which had become resurgent under Lord Alyn. Symon proved a capable sailor and was given his own ship, the Valyrian Wind, at the age of six-and-ten as well being knighted. In the tradition of his father and father's father, Symon set sail to see the world. He has made port all along the coast of Essos, from Lorath to Lys and from Volantis to Qarth. He brought back fine goods and bold tales of far-away lands.

Despite his far-flung adventures Symon would always return to Driftmark and accompanied his father in his patrols along the Narrow Sea. In time Symon took the daughter of a knight to wife. It was around this same time that Lord Alyn recognized the twins Jon and Jeyne Waters as being his children with Princess Elaena. The two had plans to wed, but the 'Oakenfist' was lost at sea on one of his great voyages. Elaena would leave Driftmark after a year of mourning, but the twins remained under the care of the newly anointed Lord Symon. He knew it was what his father would want and the boy could serve as a heir as Symon and his wife had been unsuccessful in birthing a child. However, eventually a child was carried to term. Lady Velaryon gave birth to Jacaerys Velaryon, less than a decade ago and the boy has grown strong in those years. Regardless of the whispers that Symon would send his bastard siblings away, he has kept them close, having grown fond of the two.
RP Example:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=15143180#p15143180
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=15747812#p15747812
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=9880760#p9880760
Notes:
-Baela Velaryon(sister, 51)
-Jon Waters(bastard brother, 25)
-Jeyne Waters(bastard sister, 25)
-Jacaerys Velaryon(son, 9)

by **The Valyria Empire** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:54 am

Phalnia wrote:
House Name: Velaryon

Already accepted but thank you, now I have a link for the roster. Once our Lannister player finishes his app or we get someone else to play a LP I will start the IC.

by **Argentumurbem** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:29 am

The Valyria Empire wrote:George also admitted that he forgot to add another feudal rank between Lords and Lord Paramounts (I.E the High Lords like Reeds, Yronwood, Dayne, Dondarrion, etc.) and thus all Lords are just called Lords.

I have his character down as Lady Dowager in the roster but I expected everyone to call her Lady. I thought he was referring to Lady as in he was the head of the house and Lady of the seat.

Yeah and he is happy to muddle the waters even more by having (lots of) knights who are more powerful than lords. Cheers for that.

But yeah, how are the NPC houses being decided on their loyalty?

Here is his seventeen year old message about inheritance: http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Ent ... the_Whents
- Basically men decide based on how beneficial it is, which is nice

Oh and Georgie was in Santa Fe on 9/11, if you were interested.

by **The Valyria Empire** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:34 am

Argentumurbem wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:George also admitted that he forgot to add another feudal rank between Lords and Lord Paramounts (I.E the High Lords like Reeds, Yronwood, Dayne, Dondarrion, etc.) and thus all Lords are just called Lords.

I have his character down as Lady Dowager in the roster but I expected everyone to call her Lady. I thought he was referring to Lady as in he was the head of the house and Lady of the seat.

Yeah and he is happy to muddle the waters even more by having (lots of) knights who are more powerful than lords. Cheers for that.

But yeah, how are the NPC houses being decided on their loyalty?

Here is his seventeen year old message about inheritance: http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Ent ... the_Whents
- Basically men decide based on how beneficial it is, which is nice

Oh and Georgie was in Santa Fe on 9/11, if you were interested.

Well not counting the houses that are confirmed for which side they took.

I assumed the houses that aren't labeled in Blackfyre sided with their liege lord. Player characters can decide who they wish to support. If there are certain houses you believe should support one side over the other, please let me know and I will work on that after my finals today.

by **Asyir** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:31 am

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Argentumurbem wrote:Yeah and he is happy to muddle the waters even more by having (lots of) knights who are more powerful than lords. Cheers for that.

But yeah, how are the NPC houses being decided on their loyalty?

Here is his seventeen year old message about inheritance: http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Ent ... the_Whents
- Basically men decide based on how beneficial it is, which is nice

Oh and Georgie was in Santa Fe on 9/11, if you were interested.

Well not counting the houses that are confirmed for which side they took.
Loyalist (Targaryen supporters):

House Arryn[7][5]
House Butterwell (supported both sides)[3][7]
House Darry[21]
House Hayford[7]
House Hightower (supported both sides)[7]
House Lannister[3]
House Lefford[3]
House Lothston (betrayed Daemon for Daeron)
House Martell[7]
House Oakheart [7]
House Penrose[3]
House Targaryen
House Tarbeck [7]
House Tully[22]
House Tyrell[6]
House Templeton[7]
House Webber[7]
House Waynwood[7]

Rebels (Blackfyre supporters):

House Blackfyre
House Bracken[7]
House Butterwell (supported both sides)[3][7]
House Costayne[3]
House Hightower (supported both sides)[7]
House Lothston (betrayed Daemon for Daeron)[7]
House Oakheart [7]
House Osgrey[7]
House Peake[3][4]

I assumed the houses that aren't labeled in Blackfyre sided with their liege lord. Player characters can decide who they wish to support. If there are certain houses you believe should support one side over the other, please let me know and I will work on that after my finals today.

House Costayne is a Hightower vassal I believe. Therefore, at least one of my vassal houses will be taken off my military strength, as they would not follow a neutral, nor a pro-Daeron sentiment.

by **Argentumurbem** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:53 am

The Valyria Empire wrote:
House Arryn[7][5]
House Butterwell (supported both sides)[3][7]
House Darry[21]
House Hayford[7]
House Hightower (supported both sides)[7]
House Lannister[3]
House Lefford[3]
House Lothston (betrayed Daemon for Daeron)
House Martell[7]
House Oakheart [7]
House Penrose[3]
House Targaryen
House Tarbeck [7]
House Tully[22]
House Tyrell[6]
House Templeton[7]
House Webber[7]
House Waynwood[7]

Rebels (Blackfyre supporters):

House Blackfyre
House Bracken[7]
House Butterwell (supported both sides)[3][7]
House Costayne[3]
House Hightower (supported both sides)[7]
House Lothston (betrayed Daemon for Daeron)[7]
House Oakheart [7]
House Osgrey[7]
House Peake[3][4][/box]

I assumed the houses that aren't labeled in Blackfyre sided with their liege lord. Player characters can decide who they wish to support. If there are certain houses you believe should support one side over the other, please let me know and I will work on that after my finals today.

Oh I thought that there was going to be like a situational roll where each house (to a point) can be "neutral" - even if ostensibly marching for one or the other - to openly support one side or the other.

Though I agree that most houses would have "openly" sided with their LP (whether or not they played both sides or didn't contribute any soldiers is another issue entirely since we don't know troop numbers), the lineup we have in the wiki is far from resembling the "half the realm" quote we were given (and would have been necessary to warrant such a defining moment in history).
EDIT: Turned it into lists

Blackfyre:

Also Tyrosh and Myr would have given at least vague lip support to Daemon, over Daeron.

Obviously PCs make up their own minds but these houses (who would be more powerful back then) stand a far better chance against Daeron, just like they did in actuality.

by **Asyir** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:16 pm

Argentumurbem wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:
House Arryn[7][5]
House Butterwell (supported both sides)[3][7]
House Darry[21]
House Hayford[7]
House Hightower (supported both sides)[7]
House Lannister[3]
House Lefford[3]
House Lothston (betrayed Daemon for Daeron)
House Martell[7]
House Oakheart [7]
House Penrose[3]
House Targaryen
House Tarbeck [7]
House Tully[22]
House Tyrell[6]
House Templeton[7]
House Webber[7]
House Waynwood[7]

Rebels (Blackfyre supporters):

House Blackfyre
House Bracken[7]
House Butterwell (supported both sides)[3][7]
House Costayne[3]
House Hightower (supported both sides)[7]
House Lothston (betrayed Daemon for Daeron)[7]
House Oakheart [7]
House Osgrey[7]
House Peake[3][4][/box]

I assumed the houses that aren't labeled in Blackfyre sided with their liege lord. Player characters can decide who they wish to support. If there are certain houses you believe should support one side over the other, please let me know and I will work on that after my finals today.
Oh I thought that there was going to be like a situational roll where each house (to a point) can be "neutral" - even if ostensibly marching for one or the other - to openly support one side or the other.

Though I agree that most houses would have "openly" sided with their LP (whether or not they played both sides or didn't contribute any soldiers is another issue entirely since we don't know troop numbers), the lineup we have in the wiki is far from resembling the "half the realm" quote we were given (and would have been necessary to warrant such a defining moment in history).
EDIT: Turned it into lists

Blackfyre:
Sunderland - unrefutable

Royce - staunch traditionalists, and ambitious
Redfort - staunch traditionalists

Arryns of Grafton - ambitious
Grafton - ambitious

Daeron represented change in the politics of Westeros, whereas Daemon displayed the virtues of the warrior-kings of old, a figure men could get behind. The First-Men customs held by Royce and Redfort (however tainted by Andal infection) could easily have swayed them.
Arryns of Grafton would want to take the Eyrie.
Graftons may have been "enouraged" to support their rebel neighbours, or indeed rebelled individually in order to win control over the penisula (if Royce was a Red)
Castamere - famous knight
Crakehall - famous knight

Westerling - ambition

Tarbeck - both sides

- Redtusk and Robb Reyne were the most skilled knights from the West who declared for him. Westerling is quite probable as well, as their decline has to have had interference. The popular Redtusk and Robb could not be so damaged in the resulting negotiations (in order to put down possible resurrection of the cause) but Westerling has no such defense. Also Tarbeck who played both sides.
House Bracken
House Frey - backed out before Redgrass
House Grey - famous knight
House Heddle
House Nayland
House Paege
House Shawney
- Blacks at the Whitehall Tourney

Lothston - Switched sides late

Butterwell - son fought on both sides
Caron - Hatred
Selmy - Hatred
Swann -Hatred
- marcher lords with a long history of loss against the Dornish and no connection to the Targs. Baratheon is not mentioned as being at Redgrass (I believe) so it is possible he was busy dealing with those lords.
Peake - overmighty vassal
Ball - hatred
Strickland - ambition
Costayne - ambition
Ambrose - great knight served Daemon
Osgrey - ambition
Vyrwel (plays double agent in the Second Rebellion in order to recover what they lost)
Bulwer - ambition
Cockshaw
Risley - ambition
Fossoway (Bad Apple was in the Band of Nine)
Cuy - ambition
Tarly (marcher lord so would want to stop Dornish encroachment)
Florent - overmighty vassal

Hightower - both sides
Oakheart - both sides
Tyrell - both sides

Leo Tyrell hates the Dornish through the loss of his recent kin (father or grandfather) and was raised on the histories of war with the Dornish. Now the court is full of Dornish. In addition, his realm is predominantly Black anyway, and he managed to delay his arrival at Redgrass indefinitely, despite the Arryns being able to make it before the battle, and the Dornish during it. It was only when the tide shifted against Daemon (probably during the betrayal of Lothston or similar) that Leo turned on his bannermen in the name of Daeron
Yronwood
Wyl - Wyl is vassal of Yronwood and is one of the more bloodthirsty in their actions against Westeros.

Santagar through Spotted Tom the Butcher.
Also Tyrosh and Myr would have given at least vague lip support to Daemon, over Daeron.

Obviously PCs make up their own minds but these houses (who would be more powerful back then) stand a far better chance against Daeron, just like they did in actuality.

I haven't read anywhere about Bulwer or Cuy siding with Daemon.

by **Argentumurbem** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:20 pm

Asyir wrote:I haven't read anywhere about Bulwer or Cuy siding with Daemon.

They are noted as being Blacks at the Whitehalls tourney

by **New Granadeseret** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:41 pm

House Frey app. Minor character's biographies aren't done yet, but Lord Sanor is complete, and most other info for auxiliary characters is done.

Lord Sanor Frey

House: House Frey

Age: 20 (Since he gets an elder daughter married to Lord Butterwell 17 years from now, he must be young to have a young elder child)

Gender: Male

Titles: Lord of the Crossing and Protector of the Great Ford

House Seat: The Twins (The East Bank keep, if we need to be specific)

House Sigil:

Allegiance paid to: House Tulley of Riverrun

Appearance: Depicted above, but a silver-grey rather than black as his primary clothing color.

Personality: Some men are brave and decisive, seizing the moment and charging forward to victory and glory. Sanor is not one of these men. Instead, he is a man of few words and deep thoughts, able to sink into a deep focus for extended periods of time and preferring to think through his decisions before taking any risks. He possesses a steady nerve and firmly believes, with the unshakable confidence of a youth who has yet to reach his first setback in life, that with sufficient planning he can overcome any problem or scheme placed in front of him. In part because of this respect for order, he firmly holds to the importance of courtly and social etiquette: his manners bordering on impeccable, holding the manners of court as the key "civilized" difference between Westrosi lords and ladies and the decadent merchant-princes of the Free Cities or the barbaric war-chiefs of the Wildling, Hill Clans, and other savage peoples. Intrigue and politicing, so far as he sees it, is seen as the civilized alternative to the honor-duels and assassinations of these less-ordered regions and, therefore, not dishonorable so long as one stays within the "acceptable limits". His piety is fairly strong, having a particular affinity for the Father: making sure to set aside time every day for meditation and prayer.

On a personal level, Sanor keeps a keen awareness of his own and other's station and treats people accordingly. He's not malicious or cruel, by any means: that smallfolk was simply lesser then him, and so its only natural he gives far less concern to the man's desires or feelings then he would to a fellow noble or sworn sword. Among friends and family this attitude does break down somewhat (Though he'd never dream of establishing a deep friendship with *gasp* the help), as he is a deeply loyal and loving husband and brother... though his perception of what's "good for them" is heavily tinted by his own high value on status and what they 'ought' to want, so they sometimes those he helps aren't quite as grateful as he'd imagined they would be.

Skills: Great Logistician, Siege organizer, and mechanical tinkerer, Good Steward/management of his estate and diplomat. Fair intriguer, dismal in combat and open field management (In general, thrives where slow, deliberate planning is possible, but can't handle rapid decision well)

Weaponry (If any): Though hardly the fighting sort, if pressed he can put up a passable performance with castle-forged longsword. He also owns a fine Myrish crossbow, and as found he has a knack for the otherwise unwieldy thing.

Military Strength: Roughly 4,400 men if levees are raise, 200 of whom are proper Knights/Sworn Swords and 800 horsemen

Biography (At least a well written Paragraph please): Sanor was born in 174 AC to the troubled household of his father, Lord Ronel Frey. The early years of his childhood were fairly lean times for his family; the smallfolk suffering frequent poor harvests as the heavy rains lead to grain rotting in the fields and making the spirit among the children of the roads and servants somewhat gloomy. As such, he spent much less time outdoors on boyish adventures then many other young lordlings: content to explore the family fortress, fish along the nearby banks of the tridents, read in the library, and other such pursuits. Even then, he was a quiet boy: his parents or tutors often losing track of him, the more athletically inclined finding him troublesome to teach and so actively focusing on his younger brother once the boy grew up. He was 13 when his father succumbed to consumption: the rattling coughs having echoed through the Twins for two months before the man gave out, a memory that still stains his mind deeply. It was only then that his mother, striken with grief and worry, started putting heavy pressure on Sanor to find a wife: sending the child off on a "Cavalier tour"; a 6 month long escapade down the Trident, through King's Landing, down the Roseroad and back home against through the Westerlands, introducing himself too and trying to charm his way into an engagement with some available lady, hoping the freedom would help loosen her son up.

Unfortunately for her, that later part didn't pan out: the most memorable impacts of the tour being that Sanor developed a reputation among the brothels along the way as one of the only footloose, young noblemen who diden't seem intent on finding a whore (Sanor, of course, thought it would be improper to do such a thing while trying to find a wife), and accidentally spilled wine on a cousin of Lord Caswell. Eventually though, he made it to Oldtown where he made a fairly strong impression on the aging Lord Garland: weather it was his wit or simply the possibilities of his title the man liked, Sanor still can't tell, and got off on a wonderful first step with his lovely and strong-willed daughter Alessia: ending up debating for several hours after the feast in a spirited back and forth over the accuracy of the songs and literature on knights. Though he would end up taking several other stops; including Pyke (which he disliked most of all), the portrait he commissioned of Alessia for his family's consideration was his most prized souvenir: the courtship blossoming over two and a half years until they were finally wed in 191 AC. Sadly, his lady-mother had not been present to see it: having died during his absence.

The last three years have been fairly kind of the Frey's: Sanor overseeing good harvests and commerce and insuring a good squireship for his brother. Thusfar, he is content, but always looking higher and hoping to lead the Frey household to greater glory. Keenly aware that he's already "punching above his weight" with his happy marriage, he believes the future is bright for his line, if he makes the right decisions in the upcoming turmoil

RP Example:Will this suffice?
Notes: Alessia Frey (Formerly Hightower, Wife, Age 20, currently pregnant) Franklyn Frey (Brother, Age 15), Emberlei Frey (Sister, Age 13), Ser Lucus Erenford (Castellan, Age 41)

Squire Franklyn Frey

House: House Frey

Age: 15

Gender: Male

Titles: Squire, Heir-Apparent to the Crossing (For a few more months, at least)

House Seat: The Twins (The East Bank keep, if we need to be specific)

House Sigil:

Allegiance paid to: Ser Raymun Vance (For Squirehood)

Appearance: Depicted above

Personality: The sort of person who would whistle a happy tune while mucking out the horse stalls or polishing his knight's armor, Franklyn is so irrepressably cheerful most people can't help but like and feel relaxed around him. Carrying a somewhat optimistic (some might call it naive) view of knightly culture and honor, Franklyn takes even his most mundane duties very seriously to the point where his enthusiasm can actually get annoying at times (IE: He's a try-hard). He's warmly social with nearly everybody he meets, though like his elder brother has a great deal of respect for manners and boundaries. A firm believer in romantic love, he refuses to even consider courtship or women until he's achieved proper knighthood... whenever that may be.

Skills: Talented horsemen and tourney fighter, has a knack for working with animals (Horses, hawks, hounds, and the like). Good at organization, though not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to book-learning or stewardship.

Weaponry (If any): Franklyn is most comfortable with the lance and other long weapons; preferring to fight with a halberd while on the ground.

Military Strength: Himself, though even that is iffy considering he's duty-bound to fight at Ser Raymun's side

Biography (At least a well written Paragraph please):

Lady Emberlei Frey

House: House Frey

Age: 13

Gender: Female

Titles: N/A

House Seat: The Twins (The East Bank keep, if we need to be specific)

House Sigil:

Allegiance paid to: Lord Sanor Frey of The Crossing

Appearance: Depicted above

Personality: On a casual glance, it would be easy to cast Emberlei as a stereotypical "Good young noblewoman": clean, polite, attentive to her lessons and rarely confrontational. However, like an undertow she runs most strongly beneath the surface. While genuinely pious and keen at mastering the avenues open for a noblewoman, in her heart she has a strong passion and hopeless love for the romantic, finding the structures of the church "somewhat stifling" and pities the Septons and Septas stuck in it. She share her brother's impeccable set of manners, though is a great deal more forward and... flirtatious perhaps.

Skills: Well-read on the Faith and domestic duties, great at managing a household staff and possesses a charming wit/ability to joke and tongue for languages. Still too young to have a full grasp on intrigue. Can also drink more then her figure might suggest.

Weaponry (If any): N/A ("Ladies don't defend their own honor")

Military Strength: N/A

Biography (At least a well written Paragraph please):

Lady Alessia Frey

House: House Frey

Age: 20

Gender: Female

Titles: Lady of the Crossing

House Seat: The Twins (The East Bank keep, if we need to be specific)

House Sigil:

Allegiance paid to: Her Lord-Husband, Sanor Tulley

Appearance: Depicted above, but about 4 months pregnant and the snowflake motif of her outfit replaced by appropriate imagery.

Personality: Though a kind and fairly gentle soul, Alessia could politely be described as "strong-willed": accustomed to be a bit spoiled and making a number of her own decisions. While not rude or overly demanding about it, she can be quite a handful as she tries to 'hint' and 'pressure' her way into getting what she wants. Her marriage with Sanor has mellowed this tendency somewhat, at least with those she loves or respects (Her family, important nobles, favored servants, ect.), she has a nasty habit of lording over her servants. She deeply admires knights and the chivalrous traditions, as is common among ladies, and enjoys good music. She's not particularly pious, and considers intrigue and manipulation a natural part of a lady's lot in the world: feeling no shame (unless she gets called out)

Skills: Alissa's detail-oriented nature makes her an unchallenged event planner and mistress of the house-hold staff; keeping a tight shift and always finding a way to insure all her exacting expectations are met within her feminine dominion, and knows (to a certain extent) how to manipulate people to her advantage with her will and finding people's emotional weak points. This makes her a natural intriguer, often working alongside her husband by providing the social ease he lacks. However, she is a dotted upon daughter at heart; sheltered by her father and older brothers, and so has a weak perspective on how to manage her money/resources wisely or cope with hardship.

Weaponry (If any): Often carries around a silvered dagger: a wedding gift from her brother William, for sentimental reasons. Has no idea how to properly wield it in combat, though can cleanly stab an unaware/disabled foe if need be.

Military Strength: N/A

Biography (At least a well written Paragraph please):

by **Argentumurbem** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:05 pm

Which branch of Vance is Franklin squiring at? These are the questions which demand answers people

by **New Granadeseret** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:10 pm

Argentumurbem wrote:Which branch of Vance is Franklin squiring at? These are the questions which demand answers people

Franklyn, and the Vances of Atranta.

by **Vladivostokava** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:32 pm

-Okay I understand, I thought that the game was considered canon. Apologies.
-Her father is lord Blackmyre. So I belive that makes her a lady, at least out of respect. I am only trying to fight this to save myself from going back and editing my two IC posts.
-For the 3rd time, I am a woman. No hard feelings but do I need to change my flag to hearts and kittens to get this across?
-Ill get on editing my app right now.

by **The Valyria Empire** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:46 pm

Vladivostokava wrote:-Okay I understand, I thought that the game was considered canon. Apologies.
-Her father is lord Blackmyre. So I belive that makes her a lady, at least out of respect. I am only trying to fight this to save myself from going back and editing my two IC posts.
-For the 3rd time, I am a woman. No hard feelings but do I need to change my flag to hearts and kittens to get this across?
-Ill get on editing my app right now.

Please do not get upset over pronouns, I'll let the rules of the internet take over

30. There are NO girls on the internet.

I said the title of lady is fine, and I expect it to be used in IC. I just put you down as Lady Dowager in the roster.

by **Vladivostokava** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:53 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Vladivostokava wrote:-Okay I understand, I thought that the game was considered canon. Apologies.
-Her father is lord Blackmyre. So I belive that makes her a lady, at least out of respect. I am only trying to fight this to save myself from going back and editing my two IC posts.
-For the 3rd time, I am a woman. No hard feelings but do I need to change my flag to hearts and kittens to get this across?
-Ill get on editing my app right now.

Please do not get upset over pronouns, I'll let the rules of the internet take over
30. There are NO girls on the internet.

I said the title of lady is fine, and I expect it to be used in IC. I just put you down as Lady Dowager in the roster.

Okay I understand.

by **Vladivostokava** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:57 pm

I just wanted to be sure, but I am free to send troops to aid whoever pays? I plan to fund a merc company based out of Blackreach. They can be paid to harass enemy armies.

by **The Valyria Empire** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:58 pm

Vladivostokava wrote:I just wanted to be sure, but I am free to send troops to aid whoever pays? I plan to fund a merc company based out of Blackreach. They can be paid to harass enemy armies.

Don't know where you're getting the money or the men form this company considering you're in a swampy region.

by **Vladivostokava** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:14 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Vladivostokava wrote:I just wanted to be sure, but I am free to send troops to aid whoever pays? I plan to fund a merc company based out of Blackreach. They can be paid to harass enemy armies.

Don't know where you're getting the money or the men form this company considering you're in a swampy region.

Herbs, poison, peat and bog-wood/cyprus luxury furniture, guides through / safe passage through the neck. All businesses Blackreach will be involved in.

by **Vladivostokava** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:20 pm

My first two posts or so will be trying to advance the economy of black reach. we wont be rich but we will be getting a 'okay' amount of income to use for growth.

by **The Valyria Empire** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:23 pm

Vladivostokava wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:Don't know where you're getting the money or the men form this company considering you're in a swampy region.

Herbs, poison, peat and bog-wood/cyprus luxury furniture, guides through / safe passage through the neck. All businesses Blackreach will be involved in.

People don't need safe passage through the Neck. That's what the Kingsroad is for. I'm going to say nay to these mercs. Unless they're a size of like 50.

by **Vladivostokava** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:29 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Vladivostokava wrote:Herbs, poison, peat and bog-wood/cyprus luxury furniture, guides through / safe passage through the neck. All businesses Blackreach will be involved in.

People don't need safe passage through the Neck. That's what the Kingsroad is for. I'm going to say nay to these mercs. Unless they're a size of like 50.

That was the original plan anyway. you told me I have 200 men. I see no reason I cant use a quarter for mercs that bring funds to the house.

Also, that just means there is one business in that list of six that I listed. I can still make money from guides furniture, peat, herbs and poisons. All things I can take advantage of. I would say plenty is possible if I am able to steal business away from other holds, that could be very lucrative.

by **Argentumurbem** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:31 pm

Vladivostokava wrote:My first two posts or so will be trying to advance the economy of black reach. we wont be rich but we will be getting a 'okay' amount of income to use for growth.

The war only lasted a year in canon, and probably wont last much longer in the RP. What you are suggesting is a project that would take years to create the infrastructure, let alone create the trade network of reputable merchants necessary to turn a profit. The crannogmen are poor and primitive, nothing wrong with that. They really are just Scots at this point.

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