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by The Imperial Masonic Dominion » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:18 am
by The Macabees » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:41 pm
by Altito Asmoro » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:28 am
The Imperial Masonic Dominion wrote:Does anyone know a good and free website to create a map I don't mind whether it is real or fiction, I'm thinking of setting up an RP?
by The Celtic Confederation I » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:29 am
by Havensky » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:41 am
by The Macabees » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:43 am
by New Aeyariss » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:55 am
The Macabees wrote:You need to create the expectation that as OP (opening post; dungeon master; etc.) you can lead a fun RP.
There's no clear-cut formula for how this is done. Part of it is a history of success -- if you can't get RP partners now, it might be worthwhile to just RP on your own until someone sees it develop further. Part of it is networking -- do you know any RPers that you can invite to the RP? You may be interested in pitching an RP idea on the RP think tank thread.
Another big factor is the richness of the world. What really brings out people's interest is the setting. The type of threads that die early tend to be the ones that don't provide a lot of detail. Say you're RPing a civil war: provide good details on the different factions, their culture, their support base, et cetera. All these things make the RP more exciting and so, in your out of character (OOC) sign-up thread, provide a lot of information. It takes a little longer to prep this kind of thread, but it's so worth it.
Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
Psalms 144:1 wrote:Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
by Sudardes » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:38 pm
by Ghant » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:53 pm
Sudardes wrote:If someone parked their whole navy with radar detection and all that jazz less than 30km off your coast and you have access to all modern equipment, what is the most humiliating way to destroy your opponent?
by Sunset » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:39 pm
Sudardes wrote:If someone parked their whole navy with radar detection and all that jazz less than 30km off your coast and you have access to all modern equipment, what is the most humiliating way to destroy your opponent?
by New Communist and Socialist Unions » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:45 pm
Asigna wrote:Altito Asmoro wrote:
Agreed, for I think that II is in a sadder state than before.
There's a reason for the so-called "decline" in the quality of RPs. First thing's first, it is because of the fear of the newbies. Many people are closing themselves on RP communities while espousing strict RP standards for one to enter their communities disallowing those perceived to be "unfit" for their standards in fear they might "ruin" the desired quality of the RPs they want to rp. In turn, this causes the newbies to find themselves having limited options, discouraging them from the RP endeavor. There is a reason why the NS summer keeps getting less and less wild than it has before, so many people find themselves with so little choices and when starting an RP, they tend to not help in comparing themselves to the RPs of other people hence demoralizing the could be RPers. It's this elitism that is indeed very much discouraging.
by New Communist and Socialist Unions » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:49 am
Sudardes wrote:If somebody has 312 million troops with less than 111 billion N$ in military spending, is there an RP way to win with your 23 million troops with 6.3 trillion N$ spending?
by Sunset » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:00 am
by Sudardes » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:45 am
Sunset wrote:New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:
Simple, don't use the stats the gameside of NS gives you.
Complex; If you are trying to use stats and numbers to 'win' at something where anyone can literally make anything up at any time you're probably going to end up 'losing' when someone else just keeps making up bigger and bigger numbers or claims (falsely or not) a superior knowledge of those numbers and their source than you. In the wild and woolly world of forum-based role-playing, the way to 'win' is to write a story that is evocative, emotional, exciting, dramatic, funny, interesting... Collaborative, creative, consistent, and cooperative. Don't focus on the numbers, focus on spelling and grammar. Don't focus on the gameside stats, focus on the characters and their dialog. Aim for the better story, the more interesting outcome, the more thought-provoking insight. It does not matter what bullet killed the character but rather what ideal or lie they fought for. That there were cannon used in the Civil War was always known, but what matters now is the continuing cultural impact of that struggle.
If you're going to try to 'win', win by bringing your nation, your people, your soldiers, your ideas to life.
by Ardoki » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:37 pm
by Ghant » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:06 pm
Ardoki wrote:Hi. I'm having a bit of OOC trouble with an RP at the moment and I'm not sure if I'm in the wrong so I'd like to get some neutral opinions on the matter.
I never had anything to do with the planning or development of this RP, even though I'm the focus of it.
I was right in the middle of an RP with a nation who had shot down one of my satellites (which I had agreed upon beforehand). The RP was still only in its early days, and there was still a lot more I had wished to do (I hadn't even finished my diplomatic responses to the act of aggression, let alone been able to retaliate in any way).
However, I woke up one morning to find that the thread had been locked on request of the OP and I was expected to now take part in another RP. I was never warned that the thread was going to be locked and the RP had ended, I was never even given an explanation, I thought there must have been some rule violation which caused the lock and I spent a while trawling though moderation until I eventually discovered the truth.
This new RP is basically two alliances, the International Freedom Coalition (IFC) and the Santiago Anti-Communist Treaty Organisation (SACTO), deciding to blockade my country, destroying it economically, and potentially invading part of my territory. This RP came as quite a shock to me, as I had only agreed to take part in another RP which had just been locked without explanation.
I was not prepared to take part in this RP, as I was going back to university in about a week and I would have to focus on study. I had made it clear to everyone that I had no time for large-scale RPs as I had to focus on study at university, yet everyone just expected that I put all of that aside for an RP I had never agreed to. When I refused to sacrifice my marks, I was the victim of a barrage of insults (I'm just running away, I'm stalling, I'm scarred, etcetera).
They eventually claimed that I could manage both my study and the RP; I doubted I'd be able to, and they returned with the same insults. I have ADHD so I can get distracted incredibly easy and can procrastinate for hours, in order to get in the mood to study, I have to isolate myself from all distractions otherwise I won't get any work done.
Furthermore, I had absolutely no joy for the RP they want me to take part in. I would have to spend countless hours researching vague resources on military tactics, equipment, and organisation just to create a post which will be of passable quality (but will still likely result in the destruction of all my forces). If there was an agreeable plot, the removal of the uncertainty would put my mind at ease and I'd be able to stop worrying about my nation being completely destroyed and find some interest in the story of the RP.
However, RP appears to be an attempt to destroy my nation, and several people appear to have admitted as much. They have refused to even consider drafting an outline of the plot for the RP (I like RPing because for the enjoyment of an interesting story and how it affects my nation), and seem only concerned about winning. Now they are threatening to get everyone to 'shun' me in an attempt to force me into an RP which has no story and seems like it is just to win for the sake of winning.
So, am I in the wrong? Are my concerns and grievances justified? What can be done to salvage the situation?
Thanks.
The arguments starting on this page are most relevant: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=383186&start=650
by Aquitayne » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:17 pm
Ardoki wrote:- snip -
"When you have power, use it to build people, not constrict them."-Bertrand Russell
"I destroy my enemies when I make them my friends."-Abraham Lincoln
by Ghant » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:28 pm
Aquitayne wrote:Ardoki wrote:If this is not the roleplay you signed up for, planned for, and wanted to engage in, it is perfectly fine to ignore cannon it and retcon the RP in its entirety, or partially. That said, this will rub everyone else in the RP the wrong way and it won't make you their favorite person and may lead to further disputes in the future.
by Ardoki » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:48 pm
by Aquitayne » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:55 pm
Ardoki wrote:Thanks a lot guys.
I definitely support Aquitayne's idea regarding determining the final results beforehand. However, this is all they are willing to give me:Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Inyursta et al try to blockade.
Ardoki tries to stop it.
What else is there to discuss that concerns both parties?
"When you have power, use it to build people, not constrict them."-Bertrand Russell
"I destroy my enemies when I make them my friends."-Abraham Lincoln
by Ardoki » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:02 pm
Aquitayne wrote:
Well, I'd highlight that while the in-between stuff can still be competitive and/or relatively loose, the overall end of the roleplay should be decided beforehand. i.e what all of this blockading and fighting results in. Once that is decided, the interim stuff can be fleshed out with greater flexibility and enjoyment for all involved, if that's the route you wish to take.
EDIT: I should mention that it seems these guys are fairly competitive RP'ers. If that's not your style or what you want, make it known to them - explicitly state that you want to work out the results before they occur. Don't forget you have a voice in how the outcome manifests itself.
by Orostan » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:42 pm
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN
Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.
Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”
Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"
by Orostan » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:45 pm
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN
Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.
Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”
Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"
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