"Hail Trump!" Speech at Reagan Building

[Settrah]

Proud Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton supporter.

The fact that you support Hillary, who threatened Bernie, no offense, makes your opinion irrelevant. I hate Nazism, but if you wanted nuclear war, that's on you, comrade. At least give Trump a chance.

B... but something something all democrats kind perfect all republicans literal evil puppy kickers something something

[Vassenor]

So why is everyone saying she's desperate to start nuclear war?

I don't think anyone with a working set of faculties thinks that. More that a no fly zone is really unwise, to the point of reckless.

It was pretty much the crux of the "SHES AN EVIL WARMONGER" spiel.

[Grenartia]

So where did she openly say she wanted nuclear war?

Of course she doesn't want nuclear war.

But the no fly zone is a patently stupid idea that brings the danger of nuclear war much closer.

Except, as I said before, Clinton and Putin are both rational actors. There's no way they'd allow a dispute over Syria to escalate to WW3. Just like the US and the USSR never let Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan escalate to WW3.

[Uxupox]

Of course she doesn't want nuclear war.

But the no fly zone is a patently stupid idea that brings the danger of nuclear war much closer.

Except, as I said before, Clinton and Putin are both rational actors. There's no way they'd allow a dispute over Syria to escalate to WW3. Just like the US and the USSR never let Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan escalate to WW3.

yes a rational person says "Why can't we just drone him".

[Vassenor]

Except, as I said before, Clinton and Putin are both rational actors. There's no way they'd allow a dispute over Syria to escalate to WW3. Just like the US and the USSR never let Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan escalate to WW3.

yes a rational person says "Why can't we just drone him".

You mean like Trump asked why America couldn't just nuke ISIS?

[Uxupox]

yes a rational person says "Why can't we just drone him".

You mean like Trump asked why America couldn't just nuke ISIS?

exactly.

[Wulfcastle]

I would just like to state that while there were a number a bigots who voted for Trump, and have skewed his "America First" message, they are, and always will be, a small minority.

[Vassenor]

You mean like Trump asked why America couldn't just nuke ISIS?

exactly.

Honestly it's looking like he's the bigger risk of nuclear war.

[The Emerald Legion]

Of course she doesn't want nuclear war.

But the no fly zone is a patently stupid idea that brings the danger of nuclear war much closer.

Except, as I said before, Clinton and Putin are both rational actors. There's no way they'd allow a dispute over Syria to escalate to WW3. Just like the US and the USSR never let Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan escalate to WW3.

Except why wouldn't they?

Syria is practically russia's front door. Do you really think they're going to just sit back and not escalate even as we roll tanks down Moscow's streets?

Every step we get closer to them is a step closer to nuclear war. There's no REASON to antagonize them at all.

[Vassenor]

Except, as I said before, Clinton and Putin are both rational actors. There's no way they'd allow a dispute over Syria to escalate to WW3. Just like the US and the USSR never let Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan escalate to WW3.

Except why wouldn't they?

Syria is practically russia's front door. Do you really think they're going to just sit back and not escalate even as we roll tanks down Moscow's streets?

Every step we get closer to them is a step closer to nuclear war. There's no REASON to antagonize them at all.

Because stopping Assad bombing his own people is invading Russia.

[Genivaria]

Except, as I said before, Clinton and Putin are both rational actors. There's no way they'd allow a dispute over Syria to escalate to WW3. Just like the US and the USSR never let Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan escalate to WW3.

Except why wouldn't they?

Syria is practically russia's front door. Do you really think they're going to just sit back and not escalate even as we roll tanks down Moscow's streets?

Every step we get closer to them is a step closer to nuclear war. There's no REASON to antagonize them at all.

Syria doesn't share a border with Russia though.
Turkey does I'm pretty sure.

[Kolechian Soviet Socialist Republic]

The fact that you support Hillary, who threatened Bernie, no offense, makes your opinion irrelevant. I hate Nazism, but if you wanted nuclear war, that's on you, comrade. At least give Trump a chance.

Actually, the only one of the three who could conceivably start a nuclear war is Trump. Hillary is a rational actor (as is Putin). Neither want a nuclear war over Syria. Its just not that important to either nation. Trump, on the other hand, is unbalanced enough to fire every nuke we have the second the Premier of China (sorry, Jy-nah) mocks his shitty toupee. We're talking about a man who throws a tirade on Twitter every time he gets mocked on SNL, or the theatre kids pick on his VP pick. This is not indicative of a personality capable of nuclear responsibility.

Are you thick? Putin said he'd declare war on the US if she won. Trump and Putin are friends. He lied about not knowing Putin, yes, but that saved us, mate. He had every right to defend VP-Elect Pence. He's the President-Elect; SNL didnt make fun of Obama nearly as much as they make fun of Trump. I'm no republican, but you're not giving the man a chance.

[Vassenor]

Actually, the only one of the three who could conceivably start a nuclear war is Trump. Hillary is a rational actor (as is Putin). Neither want a nuclear war over Syria. Its just not that important to either nation. Trump, on the other hand, is unbalanced enough to fire every nuke we have the second the Premier of China (sorry, Jy-nah) mocks his shitty toupee. We're talking about a man who throws a tirade on Twitter every time he gets mocked on SNL, or the theatre kids pick on his VP pick. This is not indicative of a personality capable of nuclear responsibility.

Are you thick? Putin said he'd declare war on the US if she won. Trump and Putin are friends. He lied about not knowing Putin, yes, but that saved us, mate. He had every right to defend VP-Elect Pence. He's the President-Elect; SNL didnt make fun of Obama nearly as much as they make fun of Trump. I'm no republican, but you're not giving the man a chance.

So you admit that Trump is going to turn the US into a Russian puppet then?

[Kolechian Soviet Socialist Republic]

Are you thick? Putin said he'd declare war on the US if she won. Trump and Putin are friends. He lied about not knowing Putin, yes, but that saved us, mate. He had every right to defend VP-Elect Pence. He's the President-Elect; SNL didnt make fun of Obama nearly as much as they make fun of Trump. I'm no republican, but you're not giving the man a chance.

So you admit that Trump is going to turn the US into a Russian puppet then?

What? Never did I say that. I said theyre friends, you half-wit. Two total different things.

[Farnhamia]

So you admit that Trump is going to turn the US into a Russian puppet then?

What? Never did I say that. I said theyre friends, you half-wit. Two total different things.

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[Bakery Hill]

Of course she doesn't want nuclear war.

But the no fly zone is a patently stupid idea that brings the danger of nuclear war much closer.

Except, as I said before, Clinton and Putin are both rational actors. There's no way they'd allow a dispute over Syria to escalate to WW3. Just like the US and the USSR never let Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan escalate to WW3.

In none of those wars did American and Russian planes share the same air space, let alone attempt to shoot each other down. Enforcing a no fly zone means shooting down Russian jets. Someone's going to have to back down at that point. Either Russia grounds its air force, or Clinton stops enforcing the no fly zone. Even if conflict breaks out and is limited to the skies of Syria, given the advantages Russia and Syria have in terms of air defence, America would probably lose an air campaign or suffer unsustainable losses.

http://warontherocks.com/2016/10/politi ... -fly-zone/

[Zakuvia]

Except, as I said before, Clinton and Putin are both rational actors. There's no way they'd allow a dispute over Syria to escalate to WW3. Just like the US and the USSR never let Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan escalate to WW3.

In none of those wars did American and Russian planes share the same air space, let alone attempt to shoot each other down. Enforcing a no fly zone means shooting down Russian jets. Someone's going to have to back down at that point. Either Russia grounds its air force, or Clinton stops enforcing the no fly zone. Even if conflict breaks out and is limited to the skies of Syria, given the advantages Russia and Syria have in terms of air defence, America would probably lose an air campaign or suffer unsustainable losses.

http://warontherocks.com/2016/10/politi ... -fly-zone/

I think you're underestimating the amount of air superiority the US can bring to bear in that part of the world. It's not just about who can drop the bigger bomb, or shoot the faster missile when it comes down to that.

[Vassenor]

Except, as I said before, Clinton and Putin are both rational actors. There's no way they'd allow a dispute over Syria to escalate to WW3. Just like the US and the USSR never let Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan escalate to WW3.

In none of those wars did American and Russian planes share the same air space, let alone attempt to shoot each other down. Enforcing a no fly zone means shooting down Russian jets. Someone's going to have to back down at that point. Either Russia grounds its air force, or Clinton stops enforcing the no fly zone. Even if conflict breaks out and is limited to the skies of Syria, given the advantages Russia and Syria have in terms of air defence, America would probably lose an air campaign or suffer unsustainable losses.

http://warontherocks.com/2016/10/politi ... -fly-zone/

You should probably read up on exactly who was flying the North Korean MiGs then.

[Grenartia]

Actually, the only one of the three who could conceivably start a nuclear war is Trump. Hillary is a rational actor (as is Putin). Neither want a nuclear war over Syria. Its just not that important to either nation. Trump, on the other hand, is unbalanced enough to fire every nuke we have the second the Premier of China (sorry, Jy-nah) mocks his shitty toupee. We're talking about a man who throws a tirade on Twitter every time he gets mocked on SNL, or the theatre kids pick on his VP pick. This is not indicative of a personality capable of nuclear responsibility.

Are you thick? 1. Putin said he'd declare war on the US if she won. 2. Trump and Putin are friends. He lied about not knowing Putin, yes, 3. but that saved us, mate. 4. He had every right to defend VP-Elect Pence. 5. He's the President-Elect; SNL didnt make fun of Obama nearly as much as they make fun of Trump. 6. I'm no republican, but you're not giving the man a chance.

1. Prove it.

2. That's not a good thing.

3. I don't know in what twisted world being friends with Putin saves us.

4. Defend him from non-existent attacks by the cast of a popular Broadway musical.

5. Look at how much they made fun of Hillary. Look at how Hillary didn't throw a temper tantrum on Twitter afterwards.

6. Remember that plane that one pilot flew into a mountain a year or so ago? That's what's going to happen to America under Trump. So you're damn right I'm not giving him the chance, because he's going to destroy us if we do.

[Farnhamia]

In none of those wars did American and Russian planes share the same air space, let alone attempt to shoot each other down. Enforcing a no fly zone means shooting down Russian jets. Someone's going to have to back down at that point. Either Russia grounds its air force, or Clinton stops enforcing the no fly zone. Even if conflict breaks out and is limited to the skies of Syria, given the advantages Russia and Syria have in terms of air defence, America would probably lose an air campaign or suffer unsustainable losses.

http://warontherocks.com/2016/10/politi ... -fly-zone/

You should probably read up on exactly who was flying the North Korean MiGs then.

Yes, but the Soviets denied it and the UN decided to ignore it.

[Lorragen]

Except why wouldn't they?

Syria is practically russia's front door. Do you really think they're going to just sit back and not escalate even as we roll tanks down Moscow's streets?

Every step we get closer to them is a step closer to nuclear war. There's no REASON to antagonize them at all.

Because stopping Assad bombing his own people is invading Russia.

Mhm its great that people who have no idea what's actually happening on the ground in Syria just believe what the western media throw at them. Assad is doing minimal damage to civilians, it's the Free Syrian Army (aka radical Muslims like JAISH AL ISLAM AND THE ARMY OF CONQUEST), ISIS and other US or KSA backed terror groups that are causing problems. Hillary would have already started a nuclear war with Putin right now over Syria.

Are you thick? Putin said he'd declare war on the US if she won. Trump and Putin are friends. He lied about not knowing Putin, yes, but that saved us, mate. He had every right to defend VP-Elect Pence. He's the President-Elect; SNL didnt make fun of Obama nearly as much as they make fun of Trump. I'm no republican, but you're not giving the man a chance.

So you admit that Trump is going to turn the US into a Russian puppet then?

Being friends = wanting to become a puppet

exactly.

Honestly it's looking like he's the bigger risk of nuclear war.

Hillary wanted a NO FLY ZONE over Syria, a RUSSIAN ALLY which would be a declaration of war ON RUSSIA. Trump wants to improve relations with Russia, but of course that's a bad thing... /s

[Grenartia]

Except, as I said before, Clinton and Putin are both rational actors. There's no way they'd allow a dispute over Syria to escalate to WW3. Just like the US and the USSR never let Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan escalate to WW3.

1. In none of those wars did American and Russian planes share the same air space, let alone attempt to shoot each other down. 2. Enforcing a no fly zone means shooting down Russian jets. Someone's going to have to back down at that point. Either Russia grounds its air force, or Clinton stops enforcing the no fly zone. 3. Even if conflict breaks out and is limited to the skies of Syria, given the advantages Russia and Syria have in terms of air defence, America would probably lose an air campaign or suffer unsustainable losses.

http://warontherocks.com/2016/10/politi ... -fly-zone/

1. Best joke I've heard all day.

2. Turkey did a pretty good job of not getting invaded when it shot down that MiG last year.

3. In a limited conflict (assuming it can possibly stay limited), the US has the advantage. Both Russia and the US are using jets from the 70s and 80s, but American aircraft have always had the technological advantage.

[Vassenor]

Because stopping Assad bombing his own people is invading Russia.

Mhm its great that people who have no idea what's actually happening on the ground in Syria just believe what the western media throw at them. Assad is doing minimal damage to civilians, it's the Free Syrian Army (aka radical Muslims like JAISH AL ISLAM AND THE ARMY OF CONQUEST), ISIS and other US or KSA backed terror groups that are causing problems. Hillary would have already started a nuclear war with Putin right now over Syria.

So you admit that Trump is going to turn the US into a Russian puppet then?

Being friends = wanting to become a puppet

Honestly it's looking like he's the bigger risk of nuclear war.

Hillary wanted a NO FLY ZONE over Syria, a RUSSIAN ALLY which would be a declaration of war ON RUSSIA. Trump wants to improve relations with Russia, but of course that's a bad thing... /s

So when did the FSA get the ability to carry out airstrikes?

[Uxupox]

Mhm its great that people who have no idea what's actually happening on the ground in Syria just believe what the western media throw at them. Assad is doing minimal damage to civilians, it's the Free Syrian Army (aka radical Muslims like JAISH AL ISLAM AND THE ARMY OF CONQUEST), ISIS and other US or KSA backed terror groups that are causing problems. Hillary would have already started a nuclear war with Putin right now over Syria.


Being friends = wanting to become a puppet


Hillary wanted a NO FLY ZONE over Syria, a RUSSIAN ALLY which would be a declaration of war ON RUSSIA. Trump wants to improve relations with Russia, but of course that's a bad thing... /s

So when did the FSA get the ability to carry out airstrikes?

the same time Afghanistan did.

[Lorragen]

Mhm its great that people who have no idea what's actually happening on the ground in Syria just believe what the western media throw at them. Assad is doing minimal damage to civilians, it's the Free Syrian Army (aka radical Muslims like JAISH AL ISLAM AND THE ARMY OF CONQUEST), ISIS and other US or KSA backed terror groups that are causing problems. Hillary would have already started a nuclear war with Putin right now over Syria.


Being friends = wanting to become a puppet


Hillary wanted a NO FLY ZONE over Syria, a RUSSIAN ALLY which would be a declaration of war ON RUSSIA. Trump wants to improve relations with Russia, but of course that's a bad thing... /s

So when did the FSA get the ability to carry out airstrikes?

They're not, they're just using shelling and massacring civilians for no reason. And you know Fatah Halab fighting under an FSA banner when their members include the Army of Conquest and ex-Ansar al-Sharia member paramilitaries... yeah...