Exercise Desert Hawks 2016 [Semi-Open|MT|OOC]

[Flardania]

Next post will mostly wrap up the reception, since I don't want this dragging on for too long. I hope to start the actual combat within another couple posts.

So can I join?

[Inyourfaceistan]

(Delete everything in parentheses once complete.)
Nation Name: La Républiqua D'Inyursta
Participating Branch Name: Inyurstan Air Force (RIAF)
Units Participating: 32nd Tactical Strike Squadron
Commanding Officers: Alvaro Entenarde
Equipment list:
Fighter/Strike Aircraft:
x8 EF-20 Crotaléa Heavy Strike Fighter
x4 F-16 Block 50 Viper Light Multirole

Remotely Piloted Aircraft/UAVs (Max of 6):
x1 Navayelle Ghost Dragon Reconissiance & Signals UAV
x1 MQ-9B Predator drone

Bomber and Support Aircraft (Support jammers, tankers, etc.; Max of 6):
x1 EC-130Y-S AWACS
x1 CN-235 ELINT/SIGINT
x1 ER-370 Falcon Eye Ground Search & Surveillence

Surface to Air Missile Systems (Max of 1 Battery Equivalent):
N/A

#StrikeEagle (do not remove this tag)

[Kobolis]

Pardon the very little contribution from my end. The weekend (and Monday) was filled with work and re-watching Jericho with my girlfriend, so it kinda moved too fast for me. I'll be on my toes for the rest though.

[The United Remnants of America]

Pardon the very little contribution from my end. The weekend (and Monday) was filled with work and re-watching Jericho with my girlfriend, so it kinda moved too fast for me. I'll be on my toes for the rest though.

On a fun fact, Jericho is what shaped the original incarnation of my nation, since I had watched it days before creating the URA.

Shame there wasn't a second season, iirc.

[Sareva]

Currently trying to build up a basis for my military, especially my air force, so I most likely won't post at all. Sorry about that.

[Kobolis]

Shame there wasn't a second season, iirc.

There is a second season. Sadly, only 7 episodes but definitely worth the watch. "Season 3" was made as comics.

[The United Remnants of America]

Since Thanksgiving break starts this weekend for me and lasts 9 days, I should get a post up in that time...

[Hutanjia]

Currently trying to build up a basis for my military, especially my air force, so I most likely won't post at all. Sorry about that.

I was going to hold my tongue on this, but I just can't. Why did you apply in the first place if you weren't going to RP? Your excuse is... Riysa had to make room for you and establish a schedule that included you, then you decide for no good RL reason to pull out at the last minute.
RPing is the perfect way to figure out the canon for your military. ORBATS for your overall military are nice and all, but I don't know that they're that essential to the success of this or any related RP. Next time you should really think about these things before you make a commitment to an RP.

[Sareva]

Currently trying to build up a basis for my military, especially my air force, so I most likely won't post at all. Sorry about that.

I was going to hold my tongue on this, but I just can't. Why did you apply in the first place if you weren't going to RP? Your excuse is... Riysa had to make room for you and establish a schedule that included you, then you decide for no good RL reason to pull out at the last minute.
RPing is the perfect way to figure out the canon for your military. ORBATS for your overall military are nice and all, but I don't know that they're that essential to the success of this or any related RP. Next time you should really think about these things before you make a commitment to an RP.

When RPing as an observer, your participation is not as necessary. Besides, I decided I would focus on something more important so I could come back to something like this. My participation would be nice, yes, but what my role was had little effect over the entire roleplay. I see no problem with pulling out, I don't see a schedule Riysa made around me, and I feel your statement has no basis.

[Riysa]

Next post will mostly wrap up the reception, since I don't want this dragging on for too long. I hope to start the actual combat within another couple posts.

So can I join?

Honestly Flar, while you can, I'd prefer not to take any more observers at this point. We're nearly at a 1-1 ratio of participants to observers.

(Delete everything in parentheses once complete.)
Nation Name: La Républiqua D'Inyursta
Participating Branch Name: Inyurstan Air Force (RIAF)
Units Participating: 32nd Tactical Strike Squadron
Commanding Officers: Alvaro Entenarde
Equipment list:
Fighter/Strike Aircraft:
x8 EF-20 Crotaléa Heavy Strike Fighter
x4 F-16 Block 50 Viper Light Multirole

Remotely Piloted Aircraft/UAVs (Max of 6):
x1 Navayelle Ghost Dragon Reconissiance & Signals UAV
x1 MQ-9B Predator drone

Bomber and Support Aircraft (Support jammers, tankers, etc.; Max of 6):
x1 EC-130Y-S AWACS
x1 CN-235 ELINT/SIGINT
x1 ER-370 Falcon Eye Ground Search & Surveillence

Surface to Air Missile Systems (Max of 1 Battery Equivalent):
N/A

#StrikeEagle (do not remove this tag)

You got it, Inyur. Adding you to the list.

I was going to hold my tongue on this, but I just can't. Why did you apply in the first place if you weren't going to RP? Your excuse is... Riysa had to make room for you and establish a schedule that included you, then you decide for no good RL reason to pull out at the last minute.
RPing is the perfect way to figure out the canon for your military. ORBATS for your overall military are nice and all, but I don't know that they're that essential to the success of this or any related RP. Next time you should really think about these things before you make a commitment to an RP.

When RPing as an observer, your participation is not as necessary. Besides, I decided I would focus on something more important so I could come back to something like this. My participation would be nice, yes, but what my role was had little effect over the entire roleplay. I see no problem with pulling out, I don't see a schedule Riysa made around me, and I feel your statement has no basis.

While I didn't make a schedule around you, I thought it was pretty much implied that signing up as an observer meant that you would be sending people there to comment and learn. Pulling out as an observer doesn't have that much impact on the RP as a whole of course, but it would be nice to interact with other peeps as well - this is a chance for diplomacy as much as it is a competition.

Anyways, I'll remove you from the list.

[Sareva]

When RPing as an observer, your participation is not as necessary. Besides, I decided I would focus on something more important so I could come back to something like this. My participation would be nice, yes, but what my role was had little effect over the entire roleplay. I see no problem with pulling out, I don't see a schedule Riysa made around me, and I feel your statement has no basis.

While I didn't make a schedule around you, I thought it was pretty much implied that signing up as an observer meant that you would be sending people there to comment and learn. Pulling out as an observer doesn't have that much impact on the RP as a whole of course, but it would be nice to interact with other peeps as well - this is a chance for diplomacy as much as it is a competition.

Anyways, I'll remove you from the list.

I originally intended to post, but things came up, so I got too busy to be involved. Again, I apologise for not posting.

[Riysa]

While I didn't make a schedule around you, I thought it was pretty much implied that signing up as an observer meant that you would be sending people there to comment and learn. Pulling out as an observer doesn't have that much impact on the RP as a whole of course, but it would be nice to interact with other peeps as well - this is a chance for diplomacy as much as it is a competition.

Anyways, I'll remove you from the list.

I originally intended to post, but things came up, so I got too busy to be involved. Again, I apologise for not posting.

No hard feelings. Thanks for letting me know.

[New Aeyariss]

Hmm my idea so far was that the observers should get their own thread where they would comment on actions happening in the main thread. This would still keep continuity while keeping everything orderly.

[Flardania]

So can I join?

Honestly Flar, while you can, I'd prefer not to take any more observers at this point. We're nearly at a 1-1 ratio of participants to observers.

then I guess I'll just observe the thread oocly

[Aquitayne]

Hmm my idea so far was that the observers should get their own thread where they would comment on actions happening in the main thread. This would still keep continuity while keeping everything orderly.

That's super convoluted and totally unnecessary. It's easy to differentiate who's watching and who's participating, lol.

[The United Remnants of America]

Hmm my idea so far was that the observers should get their own thread where they would comment on actions happening in the main thread. This would still keep continuity while keeping everything orderly.

That's super convoluted and totally unnecessary. It's easy to differentiate who's watching and who's participating, lol.

I'd agree.

Unless, Nihon-chan, you'd like us to put "observer" or some other identifier in our header for posts?

[Hutanjia]

I was going to hold my tongue on this, but I just can't. Why did you apply in the first place if you weren't going to RP? Your excuse is... Riysa had to make room for you and establish a schedule that included you, then you decide for no good RL reason to pull out at the last minute.
RPing is the perfect way to figure out the canon for your military. ORBATS for your overall military are nice and all, but I don't know that they're that essential to the success of this or any related RP. Next time you should really think about these things before you make a commitment to an RP.

When RPing as an observer, your participation is not as necessary. Besides, I decided I would focus on something more important so I could come back to something like this. My participation would be nice, yes, but what my role was had little effect over the entire roleplay. I see no problem with pulling out, I don't see a schedule Riysa made around me, and I feel your statement has no basis.

I thought you were one of the participants that dropped out, not an observer. Still, my statement has huge basis.

This:

Currently trying to build up a basis for my military, especially my air force, so I most likely won't post at all. Sorry about that.

Is way different than this:

I originally intended to post, but things came up, so I got too busy to be involved. Again, I apologise for not posting.

Just say that to begin with, then we don't have the unpleasantness.

[Quirina]

Mine app.

Nation Name: The Federated States of Provideniyya
Participating Branch Name: Integrated Armed Forces of the Federates States of Provideniyya
Units Participating:
Elements of the 78th IAFFSP Air Army

Commanding Officers: Col. Mikhail Dragovic
Equipment list:
Fighter/Strike Aircraft (Max of 12):
4x IF-29 Rapax Fighter Aviation Craft
4x EF-29 Electronic Fighter Aviation Craft
4x A-10T Tenrai Air Superiority Fighter

Remotely Piloted Aircraft/UAVs (Max of 6):
3x UAH-88 Pollux rotary-wing UAV
3x UAF-125 Castor fixed-wing UAV

Bomber and Support Aircraft (Support jammers, tankers, etc.; Max of 6):
2x AWC-104 Perseu AEWC aircraft
2x TTC-104 aerial tanker
2x BF-76 Supremo bomber

Surface to Air Missile Systems (Max of 1 Battery Equivalent):
P-S1 SHORAD Battery

#StrikeEagle (do not remove this tag)

[Riysa]

Last post I make before OPFOR leaves.

Mine app.

Nation Name: The Federated States of Provideniyya
Participating Branch Name: Integrated Armed Forces of the Federates States of Provideniyya
Units Participating:
Elements of the 78th IAFFSP Air Army

Commanding Officers: Col. Mikhail Dragovic
Equipment list:
Fighter/Strike Aircraft (Max of 12):
4x IF-29 Rapax Fighter Aviation Craft
4x EF-29 Electronic Fighter Aviation Craft
4x A-10T Tenrai Air Superiority Fighter

Remotely Piloted Aircraft/UAVs (Max of 6):
3x UAH-88 Pollux rotary-wing UAV
3x UAF-125 Castor fixed-wing UAV

Bomber and Support Aircraft (Support jammers, tankers, etc.; Max of 6):
2x AWC-104 Perseu AEWC aircraft
2x TTC-104 aerial tanker
2x BF-76 Supremo bomber

Surface to Air Missile Systems (Max of 1 Battery Equivalent):
P-S1 SHORAD Battery

#StrikeEagle (do not remove this tag)

Accepted.

[Riysa]

Map up for the exercise area:



As can be seen, its pretty flat, though there's the mountains (max altitude: 1,000 m) in the northwest and some low hills scattered about. The airbases are not on this map, since they're technically outside the exercise area. The red dotted line marks the technical "border" between us and the OPFOR nation, but that's really only going to hold until "war" is declared.

The highway north is though to be the main axis of advance in the event of conflict. "Commercial air traffic" (aircraft equipped with reflectors and computer-generated contacts) flies from both west-east and north-south along the border, and will be flying there until war is declared.

As for the post to start the whole thing, I've started working on it this morning. I hope to be ready to post tonight or tomorrow.

[Riysa]

Due to spotty internet connection while away from the house, I most likely won't be able to post tonight. I'm still working on it, though, and I'll have it up before the end of the weekends, presumably.

[Riysa]

Sorry for the delay. The beginning post is up, and as such, Day 1 has begun, though war hasn't been immediately declared ICly so there'll be some prep time. I will make some updates to the participants and QRA list right now, to include the new applicants and get them working.

For all of the allied force, I really encourage all of you to start TGing and planning together, if you already haven't. The QRA list doesn't only decide who gets to go versus who has to stay home; coordinate together with the people on QRA that day and see how you want to get people engaged.

Some things to keep in mind, during combat, are:

1. The first 24 hours or so will be a complex targeting environment, as seen with the presence of planes simulating civilian aircraft of various types, small and large. Even as the civvie planes clear out, it won't get much better as friendly UAVs/helos/etc supporting ground troops start getting into the mix. Everyone will need to figure out a way to distinguish between friend/neutral, and foe, or risk fratricide.

2. IFF is limited in its use of target discrimination. The military-only mode 4 will only tell you if its "friendly" or "other"; since civilian aircraft won't respond on mode 4 IFF, much like an enemy aircraft, it can't be used exclusively to differentiate targets. Mode 4 will also only display aircraft as "friendly" if they have equipment compatible with encrypting/decrypting the same challenge, and are using an key list accepted by the system as friendly. This problem IRL isn't as big due to NATO and Warsaw Pact IFF standardization, but it is still present as seen in Desert Storm, and on NS with the myriad of aircraft and aircraft systems, it'll be a significant problem. Keep your flight plans close lest you confuse you friend with a TaH-29 bearing down on your 3 o'clock.

3. This may seem difficult, but is not impossible. There are multiple means of target discrimination, the effectiveness of each being situationally dependent. Also, remember that worst comes to worst, VID (visual identification) is a time-honored and tested method of deciding whether to shoot or not.

[Aeyariss]

I'm still observing this, though for now I'm wont be participating much in the IC (so for now, just assume the Aeyarissan delegation is there) but once the battle simulation begins I will begin engaging with the rest depending on the situation, maybe IC-ly or comment OOC-ly and asking question.

[The Selkie]

Good evening, people!
Short question, Riysa, what would happen if someone was to decide "Herp-a-derp, that plane there is an enemy!" and shoots down a passenger plane? Any form of punishment for that side in mind or will that be up to the observer leaders?
I mean, in real-life, it would be a PR-desaster, but there might be people here, who go by "They fly over a combat zone, it's their own fault and not our problem!" (like the Selkie do) and simply shoot down everything that doesn't come back as friendly or who make a mistake as we all are human.

Also, as for the problem with the multitude of different IFF-systems, I always thought, that there was some sort of code sent and when the right reply comes back, then the plane is friendly - can't that code be handed over to the allies and be done with it? Or am I thinking in far too simple terms?

(And no problem with the delay.)

[Hutanjia]

2. I order Task Force Caesar to establish a three-tiered layer of defense, consisting of a Quick Reaction Alert section, a First Echelon section, and a Second Echelon section, following the following schedule:

Saturday: Aquitayne and Kobolis (QRA)|Nifon and ____ (First)|OS Navy and ____ (Second)
Sunday: Hutanjia and Pakiranistan (QRA)|OSMC and Aquitayne (First)|Nifon and OS Navy (Second)
Monday: Free Asian Ports and Republic of Vietnam (QRA)|
Tuesday: Hutanjia and OS Navy (QRA)|
Wednesday: OSMC and Kobolis (QRA)|
Thursday: Nifon and Atmarea (QRA)
Friday: Nifon and OSMC (QRA)|

3. I order Task Force Caesar's air defense systems to begin deploying immediately, while rotating activity among the same schedule as above.

We have some holes here, did I miss a post where we filled those? Obviously Riysa will revise the list of participating allied forces, which may change this up a bit, but I don't know that he was going to fill in the rest of the First and Second Echelon squadrons. I believe that's on us.

Who is stepping up to take charge to coordinate our response?