by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:51 am
by The Romulan Republic » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:53 am
by Trollgaard » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:54 am
by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:55 am
The Romulan Republic wrote:Ellison is appealing given his progressivism and support from Warren and Sanders, and selecting a Muslim American would send a strong message against Trump's bigotry.
Likewise, I like O'Malley, and as the only Presidential candidate I can recall ever actually calling Trump a fascist, his selection would send a strong message.
Dean, however, does have the proven track record of electoral success, which is a powerful selling point.
I would accept any of the three.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:55 am
Trollgaard wrote:I didn't mind O'Malley from the bit of the speeches I saw, and the bit of research I did on him. Liked him a lot more than Bernie or Hillary, that's for sure.
by Trollgaard » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:57 am
by ChicagoBoys » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:00 am
by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:01 am
by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:02 am
ChicagoBoys wrote:Anyone but Ellison. Constantly giving the chair to minorities just shows the inate racism in the party.
by The Romulan Republic » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:04 am
ChicagoBoys wrote:Anyone but Ellison. Constantly giving the chair to minorities just shows the inate racism in the party.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:07 am
The Romulan Republic wrote:ChicagoBoys wrote:Anyone but Ellison. Constantly giving the chair to minorities just shows the inate racism in the party.
So giving a position to a minority is automatically racism, but denying it to them because of their race (or religion, in this case) isn't bigoted?
Yeah, looks like we've got an insecure Alt. Rightist.
And much as I normally loath demographic politics, their is a particular reason to pick Ellison in this case: almost half the electorate just sent a message that they are fine with a viciously anti-Muslim candidate. Choosing a Muslim American would send a powerful message that Muslims are still welcome in America, and that we stand for the opposite of Trump's bigotry.
by The Romulan Republic » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:07 am
by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:09 am
The Romulan Republic wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Just how many minorities do you believe have served as DNC chair?
That current one is, but she's only acting chair.
Before her was Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who is white (women are not a minority), although I suppose Jewish is a minority.
Before her (I think) was Howard Dean, a white man.
by Trollgaard » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:13 am
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Trollgaard wrote:
I would have to do more research on them. I do remember Dean's yell, which I though was hilarious, but which to me showed passion, which is always a plus.
Always fun to find areas where we agree. I wasn't following it as closely as I usually do, since I figured a wartime President was likely unbeatable, but I never got the sense that his scream sounded at all deranged, and I certainly didn't see how it was disqualifying.
by The Romulan Republic » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:21 am
Arachaea wrote:Ellison. He must be good to gain the endorsement of Sanders and Warren.
by USS Monitor » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:47 am
by USS Monitor » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:49 am
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Trollgaard wrote:
I would have to do more research on them. I do remember Dean's yell, which I though was hilarious, but which to me showed passion, which is always a plus.
Always fun to find areas where we agree. I wasn't following it as closely as I usually do, since I figured a wartime President was likely unbeatable, but I never got the sense that his scream sounded at all deranged, and I certainly didn't see how it was disqualifying.
by Ostroeuropa » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:33 am
by GreatestBanks » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:36 am
by Ostroeuropa » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:38 am
GreatestBanks wrote:Despite Dean's campaign having been ended by a trivial shout, I still think he can't be the chair. He's too image scarred from that moment, and Democrats probably would do better if they take a fresh candidate without a bad past.
by GreatestBanks » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:40 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:GreatestBanks wrote:Despite Dean's campaign having been ended by a trivial shout, I still think he can't be the chair. He's too image scarred from that moment, and Democrats probably would do better if they take a fresh candidate without a bad past.
The only fresh candidate is going to inflame tensions along identity politics lines, which is one of the things the dems are losing ground on.
At this point the right wing doesn't even need to say shit, they can just report things and people will draw their own conclusions.
"New DNC chair has never visited a western country, except Norway, only Islamic states."
"New DNC chair also leads an organization to get Imams politically active in US politics."
etc.
by Angleter » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:43 am
GreatestBanks wrote:Despite Dean's campaign having been ended by a trivial shout, I still think he can't be the chair. He's too image scarred from that moment, and Democrats probably would do better if they take a fresh candidate without a bad past.
by Ostroeuropa » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:44 am
GreatestBanks wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
The only fresh candidate is going to inflame tensions along identity politics lines, which is one of the things the dems are losing ground on.
At this point the right wing doesn't even need to say shit, they can just report things and people will draw their own conclusions.
"New DNC chair has never visited a western country, except Norway, only Islamic states."
"New DNC chair also leads an organization to get Imams politically active in US politics."
etc.
So that means that Ellison would be too divisive and Dean still has too much history.
So O'Malley?
by Tyrassueb » Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:47 am
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