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Which of the following do you want to keep post-Brexit

Freedom of Movement
31
13%
Single Market Access
62
25%
Both of the Above
102
41%
Neither of the Above
53
21%
 
Total votes : 248

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South Park Labourite
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Postby South Park Labourite » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:34 pm

Valaran wrote:
South Park Labourite wrote:Allahu ackbar, I did this for IR and others.



:/

As I said, worth it.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:34 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:Does anyone remember when this was the British Politics thread and not the Lamedia thread?

Pepperidge Farm remembers....

Is it time for a spiderman intervention?

Dooom35796821595 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37845817

Our country is facing austerity and constant cuts to public services. But can't let a multi-billion pound football club pay for their own bloody stadium, that's something for taxpayers to bear. :roll:

pfft, who needs seats these days. Silly football fans.

South Park Labourite wrote:Just to get this for the record.

I know what I see. I call it as I see it. She has to be one of the singlemost odious and abhorrent posters that's ever existed. I have zero regrets. Allahu ackbar, it was worth it.

Nah I recall some posters from back in the day were far worse. Though I don't think we're allowed to mention them. Their names will disappear with the sands of time.

Valaran wrote:I presume the thread is in this state because there is relatively little to discuss? (and also because of other reasons). Its not like British politics has actually had much happening recently, espcially not since May's de facto rejection of the grid system. So we either get tired Brexit debates or whatever the fuck this is.

Brexit means brexit.

In brexit news we're totally not bored of talking about
Lord Kerr said he had never imagined the UK would make use of Article 50.

He explained: "I thought the circumstances in which it would be used, if ever, would be when there was a coup in a member state and the EU suspended that country's membership.

"I thought that at that point the dictator in question might be so cross that he'd say 'right, I'm off' and it would be good to have a procedure under which he could leave."

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Postby Dalvius » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:36 pm

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Dalvius wrote:Yeah but, goddamn. Even I don't react to Chessmistress or Equalaria this way, I try to treat them with at least SOME respect.



You seem pretty new to the British Politics Thread.


Freefall11111 wrote:Hopefully it stays that way. Maybe we can just coast on the status quo until everyone forgets about the past decade.


Well, Brexit aside, there is much for the government to be doing. Me no like this status quo, because instead of improvement, we mostly just get mismanagement and statements so vague the words are literally transparent. Also, that shitstorm in the media concerning migrants, Brexit and patriotism, just perpetually brewing itself like a good storm of clusterfuckery.




On a side note, this might just be me, but I was ok with a good chunk of the past decade.

I am, actually. Although frankly I don't stay long in any general thread aside from contributing brief opinions - I am not well versed in the art of NSG-ing. But good day.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:37 pm

If you feel like ever ranting again Wolf, add me on Steam fam.

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Postby South Park Labourite » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:38 pm

Napkiraly wrote:If you feel like ever ranting again Wolf, add me on Steam fam.

kewl, tg it.
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Postby Pandect » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:38 pm

So if Brexit is dull to talk about, and not much is happening; what would you want for Britain to do, if it were your choice? Take the mantle of PM and see what you think.... (although don't forget CGP Grey's video on the rules for rulers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs )
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Postby South Park Labourite » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:39 pm

Napkiraly wrote:If you feel like ever ranting again Wolf, add me on Steam fam.

kewl, tg it.
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Postby Valaran » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:39 pm

Dalvius wrote:I am, actually. Although frankly I don't stay long in any general thread aside from contributing brief opinions - I am not well versed in the art of NSG-ing. But good day.


In that case, I might stress that there are reasons why certain posters' tempers have frayed. I myself would probably be in the same situation, but I've tended to stick away from this thread recently for that very reason. Naturally this doesn't excuse their actions, but I very much sympathise with why they are angry.

Also, 'Art' is very polite way of putting it :P
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Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
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Postby Valaran » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:40 pm

Pandect wrote:So if Brexit is dull to talk about, and not much is happening; what would you want for Britain to do, if it were your choice? Take the mantle of PM and see what you think.... (although don't forget CGP Grey's video on the rules for rulers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs )


Restart an Empire, probably.

I'm not very moral.
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:41 pm

Valaran wrote:
Pandect wrote:So if Brexit is dull to talk about, and not much is happening; what would you want for Britain to do, if it were your choice? Take the mantle of PM and see what you think.... (although don't forget CGP Grey's video on the rules for rulers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs )


Restart an Empire, probably.

I'm not very moral.

That's my boy!

But yeah seriously, I'd do my best to get a new empire rolling. Either soft or hard empire, doesn't matter. As long as Britannia rules the waves.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:41 pm

Valaran wrote:
Pandect wrote:So if Brexit is dull to talk about, and not much is happening; what would you want for Britain to do, if it were your choice? Take the mantle of PM and see what you think.... (although don't forget CGP Grey's video on the rules for rulers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs )


Restart an Empire, probably.

I'm not very moral.


We've spent the last 50 years arming the places that we'd want to conqueror....

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Postby Dalvius » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:42 pm

Valaran wrote:
Dalvius wrote:I am, actually. Although frankly I don't stay long in any general thread aside from contributing brief opinions - I am not well versed in the art of NSG-ing. But good day.


In that case, I might stress that there are reasons why certain posters' tempers have frayed. I myself would probably be in the same situation, but I've tended to stick away from this thread recently for that very reason. Naturally this doesn't excuse their actions, but I very much sympathise with why they are angry.

Also, 'Art' is very polite way of putting it :P

I try not to flare the attitudes of other users, and when things flare up, I'm out of there so I don't have to deal with anything - so yeah, same thing you do it seems.

And art was the best way I could put it.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:42 pm

Pandect wrote:So if Brexit is dull to talk about, and not much is happening; what would you want for Britain to do, if it were your choice? Take the mantle of PM and see what you think.... (although don't forget CGP Grey's video on the rules for rulers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs )

We're going to dedicate all our resources towards developing an AI capable of running the nation. Then we're shutting down the government and letting the AI take over. That's what I want to be done.

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Postby Valaran » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:43 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Brexit means brexit.


[Screams internally]

In brexit news we're totally not bored of talking about
Lord Kerr said he had never imagined the UK would make use of Article 50.

He explained: "I thought the circumstances in which it would be used, if ever, would be when there was a coup in a member state and the EU suspended that country's membership.

"I thought that at that point the dictator in question might be so cross that he'd say 'right, I'm off' and it would be good to have a procedure under which he could leave."


Lawmaking has the unfortunate distinction of being both tedious and perilous. Its so very hard to predict what laws might actually be used for, and then account for all the negative possibilities.
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Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:44 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Restart an Empire, probably.

I'm not very moral.


We've spent the last 50 years arming the places that we'd want to conqueror....

Yes, mainly with out of date equipment. And when the West gets functioning power armor...all aboard HMS Sun Never Sets.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:45 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Restart an Empire, probably.

I'm not very moral.

That's my boy!

But yeah seriously, I'd do my best to get a new empire rolling. Either soft or hard empire, doesn't matter. As long as Britannia rules the waves.


I'd try and fix our economy and get the ball rolling on a culture that can dominate the globe through science and such. If we got to be 3rd or 4th most rich i'd give a speech wearing a robe and channel palpatine about how the united kingdom will be reorganized into the third british empire!!!! alongside announcing mars colonization goals.
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Postby Valaran » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:45 pm

Napkiraly wrote:That's my boy!

But yeah seriously, I'd do my best to get a new empire rolling. Either soft or hard empire, doesn't matter. As long as Britannia rules the waves.


Napi, you are my inspiration.

Better put those new carriers to good use >:}


Fartsniffage wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Restart an Empire, probably.

I'm not very moral.


We've spent the last 50 years arming the places that we'd want to conqueror....


Rats. We'll have to think of new places then.

*eyes Iceland with malice*
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Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Postby South Park Labourite » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:45 pm

Well this is taking some sweet arse time. Someone give me a band and album to listen.
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Postby Pandect » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:46 pm

Where is my Space marine armour anyway?

Speaking of carriers, man I wish the PM had floated out the Queen Elizabeth for some 'testing' when Putin's ships sailed past.
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Postby South Park Labourite » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:46 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:That's my boy!

But yeah seriously, I'd do my best to get a new empire rolling. Either soft or hard empire, doesn't matter. As long as Britannia rules the waves.


I'd try and fix our economy and get the ball rolling on a culture that can dominate the globe through science and such. If we got to be 3rd or 4th most rich i'd give a speech wearing a robe and channel palpatine about how the united kingdom will be reorganized into the third british empire!!!! alongside announcing mars colonization goals.

I can get on board with this.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:46 pm

Pandect wrote:Where is my Space marine armour anyway?

Turns out skipping the middleman and using robots is better.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:47 pm

Thread trawl in progress. Please bear with us for a moment.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:57 pm

South Park Labourite wrote:
Lamadia 2016 wrote:What I mean is, is that you always talk about my gender, my age, and then go on to use slurs commonly used to objectify and demean women. Not only is that very bad debate practice and certainly a violation of the game's rules, but is slightly odd and certainly discomforting. In a very particular kind of way.
I'd be careful- people do talk.

Sorry you feel that way and sorry that you're the living and breathing personification of poor debate practice.

But you are young, a youngling bitch who condescends and delivers underhanded remarks to others. Why not cry me a river about how your entitled feelings matter but not that of others? I could do with a swim and some salt for my fucking fish and chips.


South Park Labourite wrote:
Lamadia 2016 wrote:Again, left-wingers living in a bubble, talking about people who work hard as greedy & as unscrupulous, whilst demanding everybody be given their 'entitlements'.
Try working in business.

Little girl, you still have a lot to learn about the real world. Most in the real world don't get a private school education or have an entitled lifestyle. Also please go tell your parents to pay for you to go to finishing school, you're one of the single most impolite NSGers on this thread and have such a massive unawareness of basic etiquette between people in social interactions.


South Park Labourite wrote:
Lamadia 2016 wrote:Oh, of course.
I always think if you screw up something as factual as science (failing a course or anything like that,) then there is probably no hope doing anything as sophisticated as classics. Clearly a good eye for literature, however.

Stop being a bitch.


South Park Labourite wrote:
Lamadia 2016 wrote:You keep calling me a schoolgirl, too, which is creepy.
What I'm saying is, and what you are failing to grasp, is that the way you are talking to me seems quite unusual, and unless you want people to talk, you should stop. Adult talking to a 'kid' on the internet, calling her a 'schoolgirl' and a 'bitch'- a bit odd to be doing at nearly midnight?

Are you for real?

Squirt, I mean if you're too unintelligent and slow to understand what I'm saying and genuinely fear for yourself, you have an option to log out.

Don't dish crap out and expect to have some cards to defend yourself you can wield at your pleasure and don't try twist this into something this isn't.


South Park Labourite wrote:
Pandect wrote:
Can you not even read the founding date under my name? Perhaps you felt that similar 'triggered' response when someone said something you didn't agree with. I couldn't care less for either person's attitude. I ought to be used to people being idiots on here by now.

Can you cry into that Lamadia river, need more salt for my chips?


South Park Labourite wrote:
Lamadia 2016 wrote:A final word from me; I am not 'crying victim', I am asking for help because a stranger online is calling me a 'bitch', and continues to put emphasis on my age and gender. It is something that should be checked out, as there are under 16s who play this game.
Now stop arguing.

Alright you special snokeflake, make sure you fall on a ashtray of cigarette ash so you melt and burn quick. While you're at it have the common decency to apologise to IR.


Before anything else, take a *** One Week Ban For Constant Flaming, Trolling, And Harassment ***. When you get back, you WILL put Lamadia on Ignore, or the consequences will escalate.

Lamadia, I didn't find anything particularly actionable in your posts (though as you noted, you did edit them before reporting), but the same goes for you: Put South Park Labourite on Ignore. Having seen the borderline posts that remained after you edited, I can only imagine what was there beforehand. I can't warn you or ban you for what I don't see, but please know that I will be keeping a close eye from now on.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:58 pm

Since when did moderation not have access to edit histories?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:59 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Since when did moderation not have access to edit histories?


Since forever on this forum.

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