Right Wing Discussion Thread V - Emperor's Holy Inquisition

[The East Marches]

I mistook them for another poster espousing progressive ideas. Surprisingly, Romulan was more principled than expected.

"Progressive", fair enough.

The point I was making previously was that "diversity" and "identity" politics had opened the door to voting solely based on race. Effectively a tacit endorsement of racism. Voting based only on skin color rather than ideas.

[The United States of the South Pole]

No, it isn't. This is the extreme conclusion, which was brought to bear by a leap in logic. Do you have any historical evidence to demonstrate this trend of 'Killing extremists will radicalize their families. Killing their families will radicalize their neighbors. Killing their neighbors will radicalize more parts of the town.' on any regional scale?

I am simply presenting the logic that Trump essentially presents and its conclusion. Maybe I misunderstood it, but unless I did, that's the logic presented and its conclusion. It isn't my logic, so...

I have to disagree with a lot of what you're saying man, Trump's plans are to move most of the Arab Citizens into Safe regions of the Middle East where they can work and thrive without clashing cultures in Europe or America. I personally think the Refugees are better than Illegal Aliens and would much prefer an Arabic Working Class than a Mexican Underclass and such disagree with Trump on that decision. But he's obviously not advocating for, nor will he lead to genocide.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

"Progressive", fair enough.

The point I was making previously was that "diversity" and "identity" politics had opened the door to voting solely based on race. Effectively a tacit endorsement of racism. Voting based only on skin color rather than ideas.

Well I would agree, it seems that in America, people who are Black will more than likely vote democrats.

[Grand Britannia]

"Progressive", fair enough.

The point I was making previously was that "diversity" and "identity" politics had opened the door to voting solely based on race. Effectively a tacit endorsement of racism. Voting based only on skin color rather than ideas.

Being the victim seems to be the cool and "hip" thing now a days.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Oh hey guys, what's going on in this thread he...

You missed the part where the middle east is nice insular. Afghans fucking hated each other from being from the other valley. In that regard, Mr. Trump is correct. Given the current way we've been fighting wars, only genocide lite (if you count villages as that, its more small scale ethnic cleansing) can achieve our objectives. Novus America had a good analysis of our failings in this regard and what we do need to do.

So when I felt frustrated and ready to give up on supporting the modern counterterrorism policy and half-jokingly suggested we should just kill everyone...it was the right thing to do?
*Great Crusade intensifies*

Vienna was not far enough.

[Conserative Morality]

It is indeed now. "First Black President" "First Female President" - both of those are example of what I am talking about.

... your examples are one previous president and one soon-to-be president, one of whom has been a biracial man notably hands-off on racial issues and didn't get an exceptional portion of the black vote, and one who's running against an indisputable misogynist?

Check my edit, I linked you something explaining the whole thing and its origins. He'd later leverage that to try and get votes in 2000.

2000? You mean the year he wasn't running for president and the man on the Dem ticket was distancing himself from Bill?

Yugoslavia = Example of ethnic conflicts go started

"Diversity" = vote for the guy who looks like you, essentially harnessing ingroup preferences while vociferously condemning the other guy for "racism", they opened the door

Yeah, I'm not seeing it.

[Conserative Morality]

A new decade long war with lots of delicious profits from my military-industrial stocks to fatten my retirement.I disagree, we ought to study which one reduces their flow the most. Thats the option I would select.

I was proposing that increased investment and trade would reduce the flow the most.

[The East Marches]

A new decade long war with lots of delicious profits from my military-industrial stocks to fatten my retirement.I disagree, we ought to study which one reduces their flow the most. Thats the option I would select.

I was proposing that increased investment and trade would reduce the flow the most.

I am saying wait for studies to be done and then make the call. We toss money at corrupt third world shitheaps all the time. Dumping money in Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't worked. Why would the recipe change?

[Conserative Morality]

I am saying wait for studies to be done and then make the call.

That could be years before definitive answers come out, and even then they'll likely be disputed, or maybe even outdated. My solution can be implemented almost immediately considering how both parties have a hard-on for free trade, has a low opportunity cost and promises benefits even if it's wrong (so long as it runs short of a complete catastrophe).

We toss money at corrupt third world shitheaps all the time. Dumping money in Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't worked. Why would the recipe change?

Probably has something to do with most of that money being in the form of precision missile strikes. US investment in Africa is looking to pay off quite nicely. Why should Latin America be any different?

[The East Marches]

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/ammon-bundy-verdict-oregon-standoff-malheur-court/

Ladies and Gentlemen of RWDT, what do you make of this? On that note, I've reposted it here as the mega-thread is soon to be kill for being grave digging I think.

[Conserative Morality]

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/ammon-bundy-verdict-oregon-standoff-malheur-court/

Ladies and Gentlemen of RWDT, what do you make of this? On that note, I've reposted it here as the mega-thread is soon to be kill for being grave digging I think.

Absofuckinglutely ridiculous.

[The East Marches]

I am saying wait for studies to be done and then make the call.

That could be years before definitive answers come out, and even then they'll likely be disputed, or maybe even outdated. My solution can be implemented almost immediately considering how both parties have a hard-on for free trade, has a low opportunity cost and promises benefits even if it's wrong (so long as it runs short of a complete catastrophe).

I don't think we should subsidize failed states. It would be a malinvestment and direction of resources into an unproductive area in the world. I'd rather see that money go to Africa. They've got a better chance of not screwing it up and giving us a return on investment in the form of strategic rare mineral reserves like Cobalt.

If its just a private business deal on the otherhand, I see no problem with it. Private business can risk its money where it will no problem.

We toss money at corrupt third world shitheaps all the time. Dumping money in Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't worked. Why would the recipe change?

Probably has something to do with most of that money being in the form of precision missile strikes. US investment in Africa is looking to pay off quite nicely. Why should Latin America be any different?

Latin America doesn't have the same work ethic nor stable contract system that many of the Africa countries do. I believe Nigeria is better for contract enforcement and repayments than most of SA bar Chile.

[The East Marches]

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/ammon-bundy-verdict-oregon-standoff-malheur-court/

Ladies and Gentlemen of RWDT, what do you make of this? On that note, I've reposted it here as the mega-thread is soon to be kill for being grave digging I think.

Absofuckinglutely ridiculous.

On that note, I think it is dangerous for people who will soon be calling for them to be tried by special court. Despite our disagreements with the jury's decision, it ought to be respected.

[Conserative Morality]

I don't think we should subsidize failed states. It would be a malinvestment and direction of resources into an unproductive area in the world. I'd rather see that money go to Africa. They've got a better chance of not screwing it up and giving us a return on investment in the form of strategic rare mineral reserves like Cobalt.

If its just a private business deal on the otherhand, I see no problem with it. Private business can risk its money where it will no problem.

I was thinking offering tax breaks and removing tariffs and all that jazz. Super NAFTA, if you will.

[Conserative Morality]

On that note, I think it is dangerous for people who will soon be calling for them to be tried by special court. Despite our disagreements with the jury's decision, it ought to be respected.

I agree, although honestly I think this was probably the best case for a treason trial in years.

Undoubtedly these whiners will (after getting the snacks they so desperately need) will end up suing the government for 'emotional damage' or someshit to get their share of the big, bad Federal government.

[The East Marches]

I don't think we should subsidize failed states. It would be a malinvestment and direction of resources into an unproductive area in the world. I'd rather see that money go to Africa. They've got a better chance of not screwing it up and giving us a return on investment in the form of strategic rare mineral reserves like Cobalt.

If its just a private business deal on the otherhand, I see no problem with it. Private business can risk its money where it will no problem.

I was thinking offering tax breaks and removing tariffs and all that jazz. Super NAFTA, if you will.

I could get behind tariffs and free trade. Its not like that region of the world is developed enough to threaten or come close to anything we have now. I'd feel much better if it were the market determining investment in businesses anyway rather than Government.

I did read that certain individuals in Wall Street would like see a free movement deal passed as well (in one of the Clinton leaked speeches. Thats where I draw the line.

[The East Marches]

On that note, I think it is dangerous for people who will soon be calling for them to be tried by special court. Despite our disagreements with the jury's decision, it ought to be respected.

I agree, although honestly I think this was probably the best case for a treason trial in years.

Not since Hassan have I seen such a clear case. However, are those tried by tribunal or jury? I am not familiar with their mechanics.

[Conserative Morality]

I could get behind tariffs and free trade. Its not like that region of the world is developed enough to threaten or come close to anything we have now. I'd feel much better if it were the market determining investment in businesses anyway rather than Government.

I did read that certain individuals in Wall Street would like see a free movement deal passed as well (in one of the Clinton leaked speeches. Thats where I draw the line.

I actual agree that free movement is a bad idea at this point in time.

[Conserative Morality]

Not since Hassan have I seen such a clear case. However, are those tried by tribunal or jury? I am not familiar with their mechanics.

Pretty sure it's done like a normal trial.

[Jochizyd Republic]

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/ammon-bundy-verdict-oregon-standoff-malheur-court/

Ladies and Gentlemen of RWDT, what do you make of this? On that note, I've reposted it here as the mega-thread is soon to be kill for being grave digging I think.

You know, I don't like the gubmint and I admit The New Left is pretty prevalent in at least half of the American political system.

But this pretty much proves that the bias goes both ways.

[The East Marches]

I could get behind tariffs and free trade. Its not like that region of the world is developed enough to threaten or come close to anything we have now. I'd feel much better if it were the market determining investment in businesses anyway rather than Government.

I did read that certain individuals in Wall Street would like see a free movement deal passed as well (in one of the Clinton leaked speeches. Thats where I draw the line.

I actual agree that free movement is a bad idea at this point in time.

I support free movement if and when we need it economically speaking. To be honest, I'm surprised we've not had one with the Canadians or other English speaking countries yet. I'd doubt the Europeans would let us into theirs however.

[Conserative Morality]

My opposition to free movement comes when it provides what we don't need. To be honest, I'm surprised we've not had one with the Canadians or other English speaking countries yet. I'd doubt the Europeans would let us into theirs however.

My problem comes when it encourages countries within the bloc to use us or other countries as a pressure release valve. Let them face their own messes.

[The East Marches]

Not since Hassan have I seen such a clear case. However, are those tried by tribunal or jury? I am not familiar with their mechanics.

Pretty sure it's done like a normal trial.

Who is to say that it would not end in the same result?

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/ammon-bundy-verdict-oregon-standoff-malheur-court/

Ladies and Gentlemen of RWDT, what do you make of this? On that note, I've reposted it here as the mega-thread is soon to be kill for being grave digging I think.

You know, I don't like the gubmint and I admit The New Left is pretty prevalent in at least half of the American political system.

But this pretty much proves that the bias goes both ways.

My question is how the jurors came to this conclusion? Were they really locals? In such a case, that is indication of some form of support for what they did.

[The East Marches]

My opposition to free movement comes when it provides what we don't need. To be honest, I'm surprised we've not had one with the Canadians or other English speaking countries yet. I'd doubt the Europeans would let us into theirs however.

My problem comes when it encourages countries within the bloc to use us or other countries as a pressure release valve. Let them face their own messes.

This is a good point too, I concur.

[Conserative Morality]

Who is to say that it would not end in the same result?

No one, but at least then the gravity of what they did would be more apparent than pussy-ass charges like 'conspiracy'.