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by Fordorsia » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:40 am
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
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by Arlenton » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:41 am
Fordorsia wrote:Czech tanks are barely tanks so they don't count ripppppppppppppppppppp
by Washington Resistance Army » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:43 am
Germanic Templars wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The bolded and italicized, BRDM a shit
Because it is fuckin adorable and is street legal as far as I am concerned.
by Arlenton » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:44 am
The Rodina wrote:I actually really like the Panzers III and IV, they were certainly older than their counterparts, but that is the main reason i like them. They were really the first medium tanks, unless you count the Matilda II as a medium tank. They also rolled over the Russians in 1941 before they could field the T-34. Although of course the T-34 was more than a match for the Pz. 3, it was still inferior to the Panther, in terms of raw performance. I am also quite a fan of British tanks like the Cromwell.
I was never a fan of the Sherman, tbh. Any sherman fans care to explain what is so awesome about the Tommy Cooker compared to the Panther and Cromwell?
by Husseinarti » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:47 am
The Rodina wrote:regardless of angling,
by The RODina » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:48 am
Husseinarti wrote:Considering the majority of T-34s produced were lost in WW2, either to combat kills or just scrapped due to damage. However the Russians forgone repairing extensively damaged tanks and would just straight put the crew into a new tank instead.
Husseinarti wrote:kekius maximus
Well the industry of the United States utterly dwarfs everyone else, the Russians might come close to raw scale of output, but don't come close to quality of output. T-34s suffered from laxed quality control, due to a very understandable "Hey ivan they are like 100km from Moscow build tank now" situation, however these differences were pretty stark.
Well the majority of the 2,100 Pershings produced were built in a span of less than 12 months which outdid the previous 4 years of the Tiger I and Tiger II production runs.
It wouldn't be anything like 21,000 Shermans produced in a year like in 1943 but it'd make BMW, Krupp, Porche, Henschel and all them literally fucking cry the second Detroit Army Tank Plant, Fisher Tank Arsenal, and Lima Army Tank Plant start turning out fucking tanks.
american industry magic oo
Husseinarti wrote: Captain hindsight strikes again!
Husseinarti wrote:The first effective medium tanks in German service were Czechoslovakian designs rippppp
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by The RODina » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:50 am
Arlenton wrote:But there have been plenty of medium tanks before that? The T-28 and Vickers Mark I come to mind. But even back to WW1 there was the Medium Mark A Whippet, and then the Mark B, Mark C, and Mark D.
The Rodina wrote:The Panzer III was the first effective Medium Tank to be employed on a wide scale. Is that better?
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by Germanic Templars » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:50 am
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Well yeah it looks cool, but it's still commie junk at the end of the day
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by Fordorsia » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:53 am
The Rodina wrote:I sort of see this as the exact same sort of "MUH COUNTREE HAD THE BEST EVERYTHING"
The Rodina wrote:This is sort of MUH COUNTREE DA GRATEST IN EVERY ASPECT USA USA USA is no different than the T-34 fanboys and Wehraboos, you are getting way too fucking defensive here. Chill the fuck out bro.
The Rodina wrote:the Sherman has better angling which makes a difference
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
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by The RODina » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:00 am
Fordorsia wrote:The Rodina wrote:I sort of see this as the exact same sort of "MUH COUNTREE HAD THE BEST EVERYTHING"The Rodina wrote:This is sort of MUH COUNTREE DA GRATEST IN EVERY ASPECT USA USA USA is no different than the T-34 fanboys and Wehraboos, you are getting way too fucking defensive here. Chill the fuck out bro.
He is Czech-Asian and I'm British, yet here we are defending the Sherman. Weird.The Rodina wrote:the Sherman has better angling which makes a difference
So what you're saying is the Sherman had better armour
The Rodina wrote:yes, the Sherman has better angling which makes a difference, but the Cromwell ultimately had better protection.
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by Blakullar » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:00 am
Fordorsia wrote:Czech tanks are barely tanks so they don't count ripppppppppppppppppppp
by Husseinarti » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:01 am
The Rodina wrote:I don't particularly like the T-34. I consider it a very poorly designed tank that worked well against the early Panzer IIIs and IVs, but faults in its design started to really show up after a while, too late to fix. I just see the Sherman as an average tank too, even if it is better, it isn't by a significant amount, especially in 1944 with the T-34-85, which fixed alot of the biggest problems.
The Rodina wrote:the vz 35 and 38 were more light tanks, tbh.
The Rodina wrote:This is sort of MUH COUNTREE DA GRATEST IN EVERY ASPECT USA USA USA is no different than the T-34 fanboys and Wehraboos, you are getting way too fucking defensive here. Chill the fuck out bro.
by The RODina » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:01 am
New Antonalia wrote:Anyone have an opinion on post war French tanks?
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by The RODina » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:06 am
Husseinarti wrote:Well when T-34-85s and M4A3E8s when head to head in Korea the Sherman found itself on top.
The M4 accounted for the largest majority of confirmed US tank kills in Korea. However tank-on-tank fights were super rare in Korea, with like less than 150 ever happening.
The Rodina wrote:even if it is better, it isn't by a significant amount
Husseinarti wrote:The 6th, 7th and 8th Panzer Divisions used 35s and 38s in lack of Panzer IIIs.
And they took all of 110~ damaged 38s with 17 scrapped 38s for all of the invasion of France.
Husseinarti wrote:I mean the US was a backwater in terms of tanks until WW2 started. 300 tanks produced in between like 10 years of development. Terribad. They had cool ideas though.
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by Germanic Templars » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:10 am
by Husseinarti » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:13 am
New Antonalia wrote:Anyone have an opinion on post war French tanks?
The Rodina wrote:Fordorsia wrote:
He is Czech-Asian and I'm British, yet here we are defending the Sherman. Weird.
So what you're saying is the Sherman had better armour
Not what I said, completely out of contextThe Rodina wrote:yes, the Sherman has better angling which makes a difference, but the Cromwell ultimately had better protection.
Again, are you new to intelligent comments?
by Husseinarti » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:27 am
The Rodina wrote:You are also failing to take into consideration how abysmal the North Korean tank crews were, if they were equally matched crews, I could still see the Sherman coming out on top, but hardly by a significant amount.
The Rodina wrote:That doesn't mean it is a medium tank. The T-34 took a role traditionally filled by the BT-7, does that make the BT-7 a medium tank?
by The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:07 am
I can imagine the number built being an important factor, otherwise it just seems like an average tank like the T-34.
Also what is to say that the Germans would have been incapable of producing a similar number of Panthers if their industry hadn't been totally flattened from like 1942-1945. (And had crews to fill them ofc).
For example, if the United States had for some reason developed the Panther, would they have been able to churn out as many of them as they did Shermans?
The T-28 was an expensive, operationally ineffective pile of junk tbh (explainable by the fact it was made in 1933)
The Panzer III was the first effective Medium Tank to be employed on a wide scale. Is that better?
by Fordorsia » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:10 am
The Rodina wrote:Fordorsia wrote:
He is Czech-Asian and I'm British, yet here we are defending the Sherman. Weird.
So what you're saying is the Sherman had better armour
Not what I said, completely out of contextThe Rodina wrote:yes, the Sherman has better angling which makes a difference, but the Cromwell ultimately had better protection.
Again, are you new to intelligent comments?
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What point? That the Tiger II accomplished shit? That's already an obvious conclusion.
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.
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by The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:21 am
Fordorsia wrote:The Rodina wrote:Not what I said, completely out of context
Again, are you new to intelligent comments?
>Saying the Cromwell is better protected than the Sherman
>IntelligentThe Empire of Pretantia wrote:What point? That the Tiger II accomplished shit? That's already an obvious conclusion.
Oh I would love to know what the Tiger II accomplished besides successfully being a drain on manpower and resources, ending the war sooner.
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