US Gen. Election Thread V: The Hunt for Red October Surprise

[Big Jim P]

Didn't Trump say the best way to stop mass shootings was to search people and take their guns? I seem to remember him saying that a few weeks back.

It wasn't on the topic of mass shootings I don't think, he was more talking about taking guns from criminals and gang members IIRC.

Which is what the current laws are supposed to do.

[The Romulan Republic]

Fuck you. Just fuck you. I'm absolutely sick of people believing that what Trump said was acceptable on any level, shape, form, or an enigma comparable to dark matter. You're on the same level as Trump; are you happy about that? Are you happy that you're exactly like the fuckers who rape women and feel no empathy? Are you happy that you're establishing a future society where your mother, your sister, your daughter can get raped and not be taken seriously? Are you happy, as a person, that you are the problem of society? You're fucking scum. I'm sick of people like you who think that it's okay to even remotely joke about sexual assault and rape. Guess what: it's not normal, and it never was normal. People who joke about these things have serious issues deeply embedded into them, and the fact that you're letting some giant inflated asshole get away with it says more about you than anything. You are a sick human being.

Unpredictable Galaxy: *** One week ban for flaming. *** When you get this angry with another poster, the thing to do is to take a deep breath and step away from the computer until you've calmed down, not launching an expletive-laden tirade.

Honestly, its times like this that I regret this forum's rules on flaming.

[The Emerald Dawn]

It wouldn't shock me to find that he's espoused seven different, mutually contradictory, positions.

I still remember when gun rights activists had to come out and tell Trump that saying the party-goers at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando should have been armed was a profoundly stupid idea.

Trump 2016: Too much of a gun nut for gun nuts!

Alcohol, psychotropic drugs, and firearms.

IT'S FUN FOR ALL INVOLVED!

[Big Jim P]

It wasn't on the topic of mass shootings I don't think, he was more talking about taking guns from criminals and gang members IIRC.

He'd know how best to take guns from criminals.

Being one, after all.

Beautiful character inversion there. hillary is the criminal, not Trump.

[Liriena]

So why? Guns? Guns.

Hillarys lack of any redeeming qualities. Guns are not my only issue.

And what redeeming qualities does Trump have by comparison?

[Khadgar]

Didn't Trump say the best way to stop mass shootings was to search people and take their guns? I seem to remember him saying that a few weeks back.

It wasn't on the topic of mass shootings I don't think, he was more talking about taking guns from criminals and gang members IIRC.

Unusually for Donald because he's usually so nuanced he didn't actually specify.

"If they see a person possibly with a gun or they think may have a gun, they will see the person and they’ll look and they’ll take the gun away.”

No reference to being a criminal, or convictions, just if they see you with a gun they'll take it away. Perhaps only "certain people" won't be allowed to have them, but he never says criminals.

[Lady Scylla]

Didn't Trump say the best way to stop mass shootings was to search people and take their guns? I seem to remember him saying that a few weeks back.

It wasn't on the topic of mass shootings I don't think, he was more talking about taking guns from criminals and gang members IIRC.

He said bad people, which is really non-descript and also stated that we should do stop and frisk during the race relations segment, despite evidence that it wasn't effective, and may lead to racial profiling, and was already ruled unconstitutional.

[Liriena]

Hillarys lack of any redeeming qualities. Guns are not my only issue.

I was wrong about you then, you don't appear to have tunnel vision after all.

Not to incur in actionable behavior... but you'd be surprised.

[Lady Scylla]

Unpredictable Galaxy: *** One week ban for flaming. *** When you get this angry with another poster, the thing to do is to take a deep breath and step away from the computer until you've calmed down, not launching an expletive-laden tirade.

Honestly, its times like this that I regret this forum's rules on flaming.

Being a pain in the ass doesn't mean you can throw flagrant insults at them, regardless of whether you feel they're deserved or not.

[Big Jim P]

I am supporting (and voting for) Trump, not because I especially like him, but he is far and away a better choice than hillary

How, exactly?

Wanting to secure our borders, being a helluva lot more honest and far less corrupt than hillary.

[Lady Scylla]

I'm given to understand that that's exactly how it worked for most of your nation's history, and only recently have the parties been having these little internal elections/media circuses. Can you tell me why, exactly, the Democrats and Republicans should choose who to nominate for the presidency by public vote?

It's not exactly how it worked for the majority of our history, our government's and the various parties' have all gone through a lot of election reform in 200 years. Why should they? Our nation is a democracy, one party is quite literally called 'the Democratic Party', leaving the primaries to a public vote is a better representation of our democracy. Especially since we're stuck with a two-party system.

constitutional republic.

[Khadgar]

How, exactly?

Wanting to secure our borders, being a helluva lot more honest and far less corrupt than hillary.

I'd point at politifact but at this point you know he's a liar and a con artist and you're lying in defense of him anyway.

[Eol Sha]

How, exactly?

being a helluva lot more honest and far less corrupt than hillary.

Hardly.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It wasn't on the topic of mass shootings I don't think, he was more talking about taking guns from criminals and gang members IIRC.

He'd know how best to take guns from criminals.

Being one, after all.

I mean, the same could be said for Hillary tbh.

It wasn't on the topic of mass shootings I don't think, he was more talking about taking guns from criminals and gang members IIRC.

Unusually for Donald because he's usually so nuanced he didn't actually specify.

"If they see a person possibly with a gun or they think may have a gun, they will see the person and they’ll look and they’ll take the gun away.”

No reference to being a criminal, or convictions, just if they see you with a gun they'll take it away. Perhaps only "certain people" won't be allowed to have them, but he never says criminals.

Ah, I didn't actually watch said debate so I was only working off of what I knew. He's certainly not good for gun rights, but he's still better than Hillary.

[The Mesozoic Era]

Honestly, its times like this that I regret this forum's rules on flaming.

Being a pain in the ass doesn't mean you can throw flagrant insults at them, regardless of whether you feel they're deserved or not.

Thank you, there's no need for that on a message board with rules against.

[Big Jim P]

Hillarys lack of any redeeming qualities. Guns are not my only issue.

And what redeeming qualities does Trump have by comparison?

Well, he hasn't openly committed any crimes that I am aware of.

[The Mesozoic Era]

constitutional republic.

With democratic elections littered through out the three branches of government. But again, semantics.

[Liriena]

He'd know how best to take guns from criminals.

Being one, after all.

Beautiful character inversion there. hillary is the criminal, not Trump.

Source?

She hasn't been indicted, let alone convicted, for anything. Please, tell me how you know better than our criminal justice system.
And if we're going to play the "guilty even if due process hasn't taken place" game, your claims of "character inversion" ring hollow, since Trump is probably guilty of racial discrimination, sexual assault, rather fraudulent business practices, running a scam charity, incitement to violence, defamation and, if the upcoming trial holds any water, raping a 13-year-old girl.

[Freefall11111]

Wanting to secure our borders, being a helluva lot more honest and far less corrupt than hillary.

I'd point at politifact but at this point you know he's a liar and a con artist and you're lying in defense of him anyway.

Politifact is obviously biased and bought for by the Democrats, you can tell because they don't agree with me on guns.

[Lady Scylla]

He'd know how best to take guns from criminals.

Being one, after all.

Beautiful character inversion there. hillary is the criminal, not Trump.

Believing something doesn't make it true. You told me that once, though I'd return the favour.

[Big Jim P]

being a helluva lot more honest and far less corrupt than hillary.

Hardly.

Ignoring hillarys myriad scandals? Typical.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'd point at politifact but at this point you know he's a liar and a con artist and you're lying in defense of him anyway.

Politifact is obviously biased and bought for by the Democrats, you can tell because they don't agree with me on guns.

It's owners did openly endorse Hillary, it's not the craziest thing in the world to claim they might be biased.

[The Mesozoic Era]

Source?

She hasn't been indicted, let alone convicted, for anything. Please, tell me how you know better than our criminal justice system.
And if we're going to play the "guilty even if due process hasn't taken place" game, your claims of "character inversion" ring hollow, since Trump is probably guilty of racial discrimination, sexual assault, rather fraudulent business practices, running a scam charity, incitement to violence, defamation and, if the upcoming trial holds any water, raping a 13-year-old girl.

I mean, we all fucking know Casey Anthony murdered her baby, so lets not pretend our criminal justice system is the best. Just because the FBI and Lynch (after a talk from Bubba Bill) refuse to prosecute, doesn't mean anything.

[Eol Sha]

And what redeeming qualities does Trump have by comparison?

Well, he hasn't openly committed any crimes that I am aware of.

He has violated federal laws in the past, though, and is currently being investigated for fraud.

[Lady Scylla]

constitutional republic.

With democratic elections littered through out the three branches of government. But again, semantics.

Not really, and what a lazy-ass rebuttal. Democracy implies rule by the people, the US is a constitutional republic where it's government power is delegated by the constitution, and representatives are elected by an electoral and voting system to legislate policy on the public's behalf. I spent my life getting the difference hammered into my head throughout school. You don't directly elect politicians, nor do you directly vote on legislation, or other matters of state.