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To which branch of Islam do you belong?

Sunni
180
40%
Sunni (Sufi)
31
7%
Sunni (Salafist)
17
4%
Shia (Ja'fari)
21
5%
Shia (Sufi/Other)
17
4%
Ibadi
10
2%
Quranist
17
4%
Mahdist (Ahmadiyya/Mahdavia)
8
2%
Non-Denominational
45
10%
Other
104
23%
 
Total votes : 450

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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:57 pm

One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert he wanted to marry but was having trouble with.

Because asking a 20 year old borderline shut in who has never actually had a real girlfriend is the thing to do in this situation.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:15 pm

Has anyone done Hadra Zhikr before?

I can tell you, it's a profound experience. At first cathartic but then something much more once you realize the symbolism, the meaning and your place in it.
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Postby Baltenstein » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:31 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert


Because she is White, because she is Shia or because she is a convert?
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Postby The North Kavkaza » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:48 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert he wanted to marry but was having trouble with.

Because asking a 20 year old borderline shut in who has never actually had a real girlfriend is the thing to do in this situation.

Assalamu alaykum. What's the problem?

And I have similar issues as well. There's no need to beat yourself up over it.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:39 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert


Because she is White, because she is Shia or because she is a convert?

He had no problem with both but some of his family had a problem with the Shi'ism.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:40 pm

The North Kavkaza wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert he wanted to marry but was having trouble with.

Because asking a 20 year old borderline shut in who has never actually had a real girlfriend is the thing to do in this situation.

Assalamu alaykum. What's the problem?

And I have similar issues as well. There's no need to beat yourself up over it.

Wa Aleykum Salaam.

No, haha. That parts alright. I just don't get why he thinks I can help him.
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Postby Baltenstein » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:26 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
Because she is White, because she is Shia or because she is a convert?

He had no problem with both but some of his family had a problem with the Shi'ism.


Is his family disapproving to the point of disinheriting him, or are they simply dissatisifed?
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Postby Caliphate of the Netherlands » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:25 am

Wa salaam aleikum wa rahmatullah

Greetings again. Was busy these weeks with my study (had some exams plus some other things to handle) but I'm back for a week. After that our project weeks will start.

So the girl I went out with last week saturday, whom I wrote about in the thread, is very cool. We just hanged around and spoke. Feels funny to meet a person who you talk online with for over one year. Hell I was nervous, I am going to meet her this winter again in Berlin probably. And I like her, we didn't do anything romantic per se but we often had these moments we just looked at eachother and smiled. We did some waterbiking in Amsterdam's canals, ate food together and went to a museum. I miss that Saturday. Hated when I had to leave.

Aside from that, my parents have became more light hearted towards islam. That's a good thing, it's a step. Inshallah Allah (swt) will give me more sabr and inshallah they will accept the fact I am Muslim. I get a lot of support (also from you guys) which really helps. And I went to Junmaah for the first time ever yesterday. Although the preaching was in Turkish it was great to see so many people assembly, subhnallah!

Did I miss anything important?

Jochizyd Republic wrote:One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert he wanted to marry but was having trouble with.

Because asking a 20 year old borderline shut in who has never actually had a real girlfriend is the thing to do in this situation.

See it as a good thing. He trusts you with said problem.
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Postby The North Kavkaza » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:02 pm

Caliphate of the Netherlands wrote:Wa salaam aleikum wa rahmatullah

Greetings again. Was busy these weeks with my study (had some exams plus some other things to handle) but I'm back for a week. After that our project weeks will start.

So the girl I went out with last week saturday, whom I wrote about in the thread, is very cool. We just hanged around and spoke. Feels funny to meet a person who you talk online with for over one year. Hell I was nervous, I am going to meet her this winter again in Berlin probably. And I like her, we didn't do anything romantic per se but we often had these moments we just looked at eachother and smiled. We did some waterbiking in Amsterdam's canals, ate food together and went to a museum. I miss that Saturday. Hated when I had to leave.

Aside from that, my parents have became more light hearted towards islam. That's a good thing, it's a step. Inshallah Allah (swt) will give me more sabr and inshallah they will accept the fact I am Muslim. I get a lot of support (also from you guys) which really helps. And I went to Junmaah for the first time ever yesterday. Although the preaching was in Turkish it was great to see so many people assembly, subhnallah!

Did I miss anything important?

Jochizyd Republic wrote:One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert he wanted to marry but was having trouble with.

Because asking a 20 year old borderline shut in who has never actually had a real girlfriend is the thing to do in this situation.

See it as a good thing. He trusts you with said problem.
Wa Alaykum Salaam.

And I'm happy to see another revert.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:33 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:He had no problem with both but some of his family had a problem with the Shi'ism.


Is his family disapproving to the point of disinheriting him, or are they simply dissatisifed?

Oh, not that extreme. Just uneasy about it. Other problems too.

Caliphate of the Netherlands wrote:See it as a good thing. He trusts you with said problem.

Wa aleykum salaam.

I guess.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:33 am

The North Kavkaza wrote:
Caliphate of the Netherlands wrote:Wa salaam aleikum wa rahmatullah

Greetings again. Was busy these weeks with my study (had some exams plus some other things to handle) but I'm back for a week. After that our project weeks will start.

So the girl I went out with last week saturday, whom I wrote about in the thread, is very cool. We just hanged around and spoke. Feels funny to meet a person who you talk online with for over one year. Hell I was nervous, I am going to meet her this winter again in Berlin probably. And I like her, we didn't do anything romantic per se but we often had these moments we just looked at eachother and smiled. We did some waterbiking in Amsterdam's canals, ate food together and went to a museum. I miss that Saturday. Hated when I had to leave.

Aside from that, my parents have became more light hearted towards islam. That's a good thing, it's a step. Inshallah Allah (swt) will give me more sabr and inshallah they will accept the fact I am Muslim. I get a lot of support (also from you guys) which really helps. And I went to Junmaah for the first time ever yesterday. Although the preaching was in Turkish it was great to see so many people assembly, subhnallah!

Did I miss anything important?


See it as a good thing. He trusts you with said problem.
Wa Alaykum Salaam.

And I'm happy to see another revert.


You'll be right at home here brother. Not too many of us aren't reverts :lol:
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:11 am

Good question in regards to that, what are you all studying? Or at what stage are you studying? Or even what are you working with?

I am presently going through Japanese History, Chinese history and what's called Exam Faculitetum, but is basically the history of pedagogical philosophy. Will last until the end of the year, to which I hope to be studying law and mathematical logic, maybe if possible add Korean history which got snatched up in front of me last time.
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Postby Nusaresa » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:15 am

Herskerstad wrote:Good question in regards to that, what are you all studying? Or at what stage are you studying? Or even what are you working with?

I am presently going through Japanese History, Chinese history and what's called Exam Faculitetum, but is basically the history of pedagogical philosophy. Will last until the end of the year, to which I hope to be studying law and mathematical logic.

Cognitive science specialization in fundamental concepts/philosophy o/

currently in undergrad tho
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Postby Caliphate of the Netherlands » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:56 am

Herskerstad wrote:Good question in regards to that, what are you all studying? Or at what stage are you studying? Or even what are you working with?

I am presently going through Japanese History, Chinese history and what's called Exam Faculitetum, but is basically the history of pedagogical philosophy. Will last until the end of the year, to which I hope to be studying law and mathematical logic, maybe if possible add Korean history which got snatched up in front of me last time.

I'm currently a IT student at a university of applied sciences. I study bussiness managment, software engineering and hardware maintanaince/robotica.
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:10 am

Oh, not that extreme. Just uneasy about it.


These things usually pass once they get to know the GF better. It's very important she makes a good impression though.

Other problems too.


Such as?
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Postby United Territories and States » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:04 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
Because she is White, because she is Shia or because she is a convert?

He had no problem with both but some of his family had a problem with the Shi'ism.

"Shi'ism"

That was the first mistake.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:08 pm

United Territories and States wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:He had no problem with both but some of his family had a problem with the Shi'ism.

"Shi'ism"

That was the first mistake.

Lol.

Shi'a other than the ones that have Iran are alright.

Basically Batiniyya are alright.
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Postby United Territories and States » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:09 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
United Territories and States wrote:"Shi'ism"

That was the first mistake.

Lol.

Shi'a other than the ones that have Iran are alright.

Basically Batiniyya are alright.


Perhaps.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:09 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
Oh, not that extreme. Just uneasy about it.


These things usually pass once they get to know the GF better. It's very important she makes a good impression though.

Other problems too.


Such as?

Him Wanting Kids later on and her not being up for it.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:11 pm

United Territories and States wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Lol.

Shi'a other than the ones that have Iran are alright.

Basically Batiniyya are alright.


Perhaps.

But yeah. Normal Ithna'ashari/ Twelver Shi'ism is by and large pretty fundamentalist.
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Postby Al Ashabiyah » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:14 pm

What do you all think of Ibadi Islam?
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Postby United Territories and States » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:16 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
United Territories and States wrote:
Perhaps.

But yeah. Normal Ithna'ashari/ Twelver Shi'ism is by and large pretty fundamentalist.


Interpretation yields some interesting results.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:18 pm

Al Ashabiyah wrote:What do you all think of Ibadi Islam?

Just don't know enough about it. I do respect Oman though. They're pretty great.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:19 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Al Ashabiyah wrote:What do you all think of Ibadi Islam?

Just don't know enough about it. I do respect Oman though. They're pretty great.


There's 10 Ibadi in the polls, apparently.

Maybe this is their best chance to speak up ;P *wink wink* *nudge nudge*.
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