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Postby Montchevre » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:57 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Again, that isn't expressly for being LGBT, it's for being public and flamboyant about it.


Indeed, putin generously permits homosexuals to be homosexual. He just doesn't let them spread that particular lifestyle to children.

Da! How dare you live how you want live! Just shut up about being poor, cold, and hungry and be mad at Ukraine! Or join army to make Papa Putin happy! And if you no like it, shut up ty cyka!
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:58 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
"You can live your lifestyle at home, but if you do anything even slightly gay near us, then we'll get the cops on you." Don't you see something wrong with that picture?


I imagine that requires a bit more empathy.


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Postby Navaronia » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:58 pm

Oh boy. I may late to the thread, but I'm just on time for the Russians.
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Postby Navaronia » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:58 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
I imagine that requires a bit more empathy.


Empathy is for cucks. *nod nod*

<nods in agreement>

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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:59 pm

Montchevre wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Indeed, putin generously permits homosexuals to be homosexual. He just doesn't let them spread that particular lifestyle to children.

Da! How dare you live how you want live! Just shut up about being poor, cold, and hungry and be mad at Ukraine! Or join army to make Papa Putin happy! And if you no like it, shut up ty cyka!


"Oh, you need some medicine? You shut up or you go to Siberia! Great President Putin says we not need new medicine, so hospitals understaffed and unable to help. You accept this or you get to live out in cold! No, shut up!"

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:59 pm

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Indeed, putin generously permits homosexuals to be homosexual. He just doesn't let them spread that particular lifestyle to children.


"You can live your lifestyle at home, but if you do anything even slightly gay near us, then we'll get the cops on you." Don't you see something wrong with that picture?

Well, good.

I mean, I don't see what exactly you expect me to think. I don't approve of homosexual activity, and think it should be kept private and not normalized in society.
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Postby -Fahrong- » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:00 pm

Gauthier wrote:
-Fahrong- wrote:Im not American, so I dont particularly care. But regardless no I dont assume I will be a member of the 'elite' whenever I pledge support for autocracy, rarely do you get into trouble for being an honest hard working patriot anyways. Racism is the exception to that, and I do not by any means support racism.


Who said cheerleading for a form of government on the assumption that you'll be part of the elite is strictly American? Plus Stalin's Russia was a fun place, even the most loyal shills eventually ended up vanishing because Joe heard voices in his head about them.

Admittedly bad things to happen sometimes, but that was the fault of totalitarianism, something I also dont support.

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Montchevre wrote:He won a third term because he rigged the election, and he is popular because he appeals to ultranationalistic sentiment. Please tell me you're trolling.

That is absurd, the election was not rigged, it went just as opinion polls by levada suggested they would, and as party member in the opposition to Putins UR I can say firmly that he won fair and square and as the Ultranationalist party of Russia is opposed to Putin, your claim is rather absurd.

Oh dear oh dear oh dear... The polls were 15% different. Please consider those by the AP and Reuters. Besides, what about Putin is good? All he does is consolidate power in himself and embark on aggressive nationalistic foreign policy to shore up support for his miserable domestic conditions at home. Go read a book some time about dictators rising to power, and maybe something will get through your propagandized skull. Or go live in Russia. I hear the water pollution is fine this time of year.[/quote]
1. Im not reading western polls, Levada is internationally agreed to be non biased.
2. He brings stability, moderate policy, social conservatism, brought centralization to combat ethnic seperatists. I mean he is pretty solid all around, meanwhile the nationalist foreign policy is a gross exaggeration, especially when other parties have criticized him for not being interventionist enough.
3. And? I am fine with autocracy and dictatorship, else I wouldnt vote Zhirinovsky nor campaign for restoring the monarchy.
4. I do live in Russia.

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United Marxist Nations wrote:Russia doesn't imprison people just for being LGBT.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/op ... .html?_r=0
Mr. Putin signed a law allowing police officers to arrest tourists and foreign nationals they suspect of being homosexual, lesbian or “pro-gay” and detain them for up to 14 days.


Earlier in June, Mr. Putin signed yet another antigay bill, classifying “homosexual propaganda” as pornography. The law is broad and vague, so that any teacher who tells students that homosexuality is not evil, any parents who tell their child that homosexuality is normal, or anyone who makes pro-gay statements deemed accessible to someone underage is now subject to arrest and fines.

What a horrible misunderstanding of that law. It just means dont have damn pride parades or show homosxual pda. It does not mean get arrested for being homosexual.
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Postby Bohari » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:00 pm

As a Libertarian, I can assure you that my fellows will take arms against any fascists who dare threaten our precious Freedom and Gary. Also, any sane person will fight. And as a New Hampshirite, I'll be damned if I let any part of New England fall to some anti-freedom rule. Plus, Maine is a pretty Libertarian place anyways, no way a fascist could actually start a movement there.

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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:02 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
"You can live your lifestyle at home, but if you do anything even slightly gay near us, then we'll get the cops on you." Don't you see something wrong with that picture?

Well, good.

I mean, I don't see what exactly you expect me to think. I don't approve of homosexual activity, and think it should be kept private and not normalized in society.


Yes, how dare they "choose" to be gay. I dunno...maybe it's possible they were born that way?- I mean, no, nevermind. I'm sorry.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:02 pm

Bohari wrote:As a Libertarian, I can assure you that my fellows will take arms against any fascists who dare threaten our precious Freedom and Gary. Also, any sane person will fight. And as a New Hampshirite, I'll be damned if I let any part of New England fall to some anti-freedom rule. Plus, Maine is a pretty Libertarian place anyways, no way a fascist could actually start a movement there.


I'll just jump ship.

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:03 pm

Trump just wanted to appeal to the masses. Say whatever he needed to for easy support. Flip flop on any policies he needed to for support. He wanted a simple majority, and he wanted to be flexible and able to appeal to different groups.

Instead his appealing to the lowest common denominator attracted the most extreme people thinking that he's finally going to bring them into the spotlight and he can't shake them.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:04 pm

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Well, good.

I mean, I don't see what exactly you expect me to think. I don't approve of homosexual activity, and think it should be kept private and not normalized in society.


Yes, how dare they "choose" to be gay. I dunno...maybe it's possible they were born that way?- I mean, no, nevermind. I'm sorry.


That's not going to go anywhere. Don't bother.

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Postby -Fahrong- » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:04 pm

Liriena wrote:
-Fahrong- wrote:Well that would only be true if an inherent and objective good exists. (Which outside of morality I most certainly dont agree with)

Relativism does not validate the position that Putin being very popular makes Russia "superior".

No, it doesnt, it does show however that most people who live here dont consider it a 'hellhole'.

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Indeed, putin generously permits homosexuals to be homosexual. He just doesn't let them spread that particular lifestyle to children.


"You can live your lifestyle at home, but if you do anything even slightly gay near us, then we'll get the cops on you." Don't you see something wrong with that picture?

Nope.

Navaronia wrote:Oh boy. I may late to the thread, but I'm just on time for the Russians.

It may be 4 in the morning, but I fell asleep early, so im ready to go!

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
Montchevre wrote:Da! How dare you live how you want live! Just shut up about being poor, cold, and hungry and be mad at Ukraine! Or join army to make Papa Putin happy! And if you no like it, shut up ty cyka!


"Oh, you need some medicine? You shut up or you go to Siberia! Great President Putin says we not need new medicine, so hospitals understaffed and unable to help. You accept this or you get to live out in cold! No, shut up!"

While im not the biggest fan of the healthcare cuts, this is a tad exaggerated.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:04 pm

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Well, good.

I mean, I don't see what exactly you expect me to think. I don't approve of homosexual activity, and think it should be kept private and not normalized in society.


Yes, how dare they "choose" to be gay. I dunno...maybe it's possible they were born that way?- I mean, no, nevermind. I'm sorry.

Whether it's a choice or not makes no difference. Homosexual activity shouldn't be promoted or accepted as right in greater society.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:04 pm

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Well, good.

I mean, I don't see what exactly you expect me to think. I don't approve of homosexual activity, and think it should be kept private and not normalized in society.


Yes, how dare they "choose" to be gay. I dunno...maybe it's possible they were born that way?- I mean, no, nevermind. I'm sorry.


The only thing worse than openly flaunting homosexuality is openly flaunting contempt and disgust for homosexuality. ;)
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Bohari » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:04 pm

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
Yes, how dare they "choose" to be gay. I dunno...maybe it's possible they were born that way?- I mean, no, nevermind. I'm sorry.

Do you really think someone could just be born different than the billions of people on Earth?! No, absurd! Of course I chose to be gay, just as much as short people choose to be short, and diabetics choose to have diabetes!

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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:05 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
Yes, how dare they "choose" to be gay. I dunno...maybe it's possible they were born that way?- I mean, no, nevermind. I'm sorry.

Whether it's a choice or not makes no difference. Homosexual activity shouldn't be promoted or accepted as right in greater society.


I'll accept this if we can do the same to Christians.

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Postby Montchevre » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:05 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Who said cheerleading for a form of government on the assumption that you'll be part of the elite is strictly American? Plus Stalin's Russia was a fun place, even the most loyal shills eventually ended up vanishing because Joe heard voices in his head about them.

Admittedly bad things to happen sometimes, but that was the fault of totalitarianism, something I also dont support.

Montchevre wrote:That is absurd, the election was not rigged, it went just as opinion polls by levada suggested they would, and as party member in the opposition to Putins UR I can say firmly that he won fair and square and as the Ultranationalist party of Russia is opposed to Putin, your claim is rather absurd.

Oh dear oh dear oh dear... The polls were 15% different. Please consider those by the AP and Reuters. Besides, what about Putin is good? All he does is consolidate power in himself and embark on aggressive nationalistic foreign policy to shore up support for his miserable domestic conditions at home. Go read a book some time about dictators rising to power, and maybe something will get through your propagandized skull. Or go live in Russia. I hear the water pollution is fine this time of year.

1. Im not reading western polls, Levada is internationally agreed to be non biased.
2. He brings stability, moderate policy, social conservatism, brought centralization to combat ethnic seperatists. I mean he is pretty solid all around, meanwhile the nationalist foreign policy is a gross exaggeration, especially when other parties have criticized him for not being interventionist enough.
3. And? I am fine with autocracy and dictatorship, else I wouldnt vote Zhirinovsky nor campaign for restoring the monarchy.
4. I do live in Russia.
Then you're part of the problem! "I'm ok with autocracy and dictatorship?" Really? It's not like the raging ass has brought you any benefits! Economy? CRASH! Healthcare? CRASH! Average income of the poor? CRASH! How can you still like the militant idiot? And seriously, cry me a river with western bias nonsense! And cheering for social conservatism too, what fun! "How dare you like progress, cyka! Join army for Papa Putin!"
I'm tired of the fight. What we need is pragmatic solutions, not party politics.
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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:05 pm

Bohari wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
Yes, how dare they "choose" to be gay. I dunno...maybe it's possible they were born that way?- I mean, no, nevermind. I'm sorry.

Do you really think someone could just be born different than the billions of people on Earth?! No, absurd! Of course I chose to be gay, just as much as short people choose to be short, and diabetics choose to have diabetes!


I know, right? Just like how some people choose to be, you know, mentally disabled and all that sick nonsense.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:05 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Whether it's a choice or not makes no difference. Homosexual activity shouldn't be promoted or accepted as right in greater society.


I'll accept this if we can do the same to Christians.

Many countries have bans on proselytizing.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:07 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
I'll accept this if we can do the same to Christians.

Many countries have bans on proselytizing.


But they don't all, do they? We could re-appropriate lands of the Church, ban christian symbolism, sounds like a good start.

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Postby Montchevre » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:07 pm

Where did the fascist AMERICAN go? We have plenty of Russians like that, but he was the fun one!
I'm tired of the fight. What we need is pragmatic solutions, not party politics.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:07 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Many countries have bans on proselytizing.


But they don't all, do they? We could re-appropriate lands of the Church, ban christian symbolism, sounds like a good start.

France already effectively does that.
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Postby East Klent » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:07 pm

Authoritarian rule relies on forces, be they police military or something else, to stomp down any dissent. Such tactics give rise to more dissent and conflict. Authoritarian regimes are doomed by the very thing they rely on to stay in power. Authoritarian regimes do not last; it's never a question of if a dictator will fall, but when.

The United States has had over 200 years worth of peaceful transfers of power with few exceptions and one civil militarized conflict. A fascist, or any form of dictatorship for that matter, would not have such a track record, especially in the modern day.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:07 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
But they don't all, do they? We could re-appropriate lands of the Church, ban christian symbolism, sounds like a good start.

France already effectively does that.


Then they should be the country we need to look up to.

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