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What country would you most like to see overthrown by military coup?

U.S.A.
34
15%
Germany
23
10%
France
5
2%
Russia
29
13%
China
25
11%
Turkey
34
15%
Saudi Arabia
42
19%
Iran
20
9%
The Philippines
15
7%
 
Total votes : 227

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Benuty
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Postby Benuty » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:29 pm

Dagashi Shojo wrote:
Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
"ermagherd! these dead irrelevant Italian Hegelians/Traditionalists/Commies are the defining authorities on all political identities and they are PISSED"

Seems to be a frequent refrain on this thread.


Croce was one of the most vigorous defenders of liberalism in Europe and helped overthrow the Fascist government to found a liberal democratic one. He is more than a little relevant when it comes to liberalism, especially when there are totalitarians trying to claim the mantle.

But whatever, expecting NSGers to have brains is too much to ask apparently.

I disagree we have brains, but have to turn then off every now, and then before we become unrepentant cynics.
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Postby Even Less of Mackonia » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:31 pm

Dagashi Shojo wrote:
Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
"ermagherd! these dead irrelevant Italian Hegelians/Traditionalists/Commies are the defining authorities on all political identities and they are PISSED"

Seems to be a frequent refrain on this thread.


Croce was one of the most vigorous defenders of liberalism in Europe and helped overthrow the Fascist government to found a liberal democratic one. He is more than a little relevant when it comes to liberalism, especially when there are totalitarians trying to claim the mantle.

But whatever, expecting NSGers to have brains is too much to ask apparently.


I'm not an NSGer. Nor was I being particularly critical.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:33 pm

Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
Dagashi Shojo wrote:
Croce was one of the most vigorous defenders of liberalism in Europe and helped overthrow the Fascist government to found a liberal democratic one. He is more than a little relevant when it comes to liberalism, especially when there are totalitarians trying to claim the mantle.

But whatever, expecting NSGers to have brains is too much to ask apparently.


I'm not an NSGer. Nor was I being particularly critical.

Yet If I remember your old nation then you are an NSGer.
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Postby Even Less of Mackonia » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:35 pm

Benuty wrote:
Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
I'm not an NSGer. Nor was I being particularly critical.

Yet If I remember your old nation then you are an NSGer.


No, I most definitely am not. I try with all my mental might to avoid the place .
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Postby Dagashi Shojo » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:35 pm

Arachno-Satinism wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Why is Mishima not an "edgy esotericist loser fuccboi who eats feces and is a stoopid poopie doo doo head" when he does the whole esotericism thing?

I don't think Mishima was particularly esoteric, certainly not to the extent of being a walking joke. He wasn't a particularly serious ideologue like Kita Ikki or a philosopher, he was mostly remembered as a nationalist author obsessed with the Bushido who launched a coup to restore Japanese emperor, only to fail and ended himself in a botched suicide.


Basically, ^ this.

Evola pulled some of the most ridiculous shit to get out of having his beliefs challenged. He refused to debate at all under the pretense he was only looking for an elite few (i.e people who would accept his message uncritically).
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Postby Ashkera » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:36 pm

Benuty wrote:
Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
I'm not an NSGer. Nor was I being particularly critical.

Yet If I remember your old nation then you are an NSGer.

The past is forgiven for he who will join us in the revolution to overthrow NSG and begin the crusajihad against the degenerate pro-democracy heretics.

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Postby Benuty » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:37 pm

Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
Benuty wrote:Yet If I remember your old nation then you are an NSGer.


No, I most definitely am not. I try with all my mental might to avoid the place .

Yet you are by virtue of posting here. Welcome to the club, take a seat, and get a drink.
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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:40 pm

Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
Benuty wrote:Yet If I remember your old nation then you are an NSGer.


No, I most definitely am not. I try with all my mental might to avoid the place .


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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:40 pm

Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
Dagashi Shojo wrote:Croce would be rolling in his grave crying if he knew how much you lot have desecrated liberalism by associating it with VOID.


"ermagherd! these dead irrelevant Italian Hegelians/Traditionalists/Commies are the defining authorities on all political identities and they are PISSED"

Seems to be a frequent refrain on this thread.

Well it's good to know you're above it all. :)
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Postby Dagashi Shojo » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:43 pm

Arachno-Satinism wrote:
Dawi wrote:My appreciation for Mishima is one part hunk fascination and two parts genuine interest in his work.

Bishonen's where it's at, but his works are pretty good.


Only if they look like Hideyoshi.
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Postby Arachno-Satinism » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:55 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Arachno-Satinism wrote:The Dharmic religions weren't "revealed". Neither did traditional Chinese worship, or the Shinto for that matter

You're claiming knowledge of the unseen then.

This goes against anything I know about Eastern religions.
Dagashi Shojo wrote:
Arachno-Satinism wrote:Bishonen's where it's at, but his works are pretty good.


Only if they look like Hideyoshi.

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Postby Dagashi Shojo » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:07 pm

Arachno-Satinism wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Not all religions. But the great ancient ones were revealed and share a common source. Being paths to God so to speak.
If they're free of rules coming from Shaytan. Such paths are availiable in most major world religions.

You can make Takfir on me for that if you want. Your opinion is only worth slightly more than a Salafis.

The Dharmic religions weren't "revealed". Neither did traditional Chinese worship, or the Shinto for that matter. Would Mesoamerican religions count as a "great ancient religion", too? It's quite difficult to view it being derived from the common root with, say, Islam or Buddhism, unless by common root you're thinking of primitive animism, rudimentary respect of the dead, a teleological perception of the world...that's it. That's the great ancient wisdom for you.

I'm sorry if I'm close to triggering you, I assure you that I intend not to do the takfir. Evidently you do think not all religions are derived from God.


Christianity believes Jesus to be the son of God, Islam believes him to just be a prophet. Advaita Vedantists believes in a world soul with different gods being expressions of this eternal self, while Buddhism denies the existence of an eternal soul with it's principle of anatta. The Abrahamic religions believe that One God created the world, Shinto is mainly an evolution of ancient shamanistic faiths which involve different spirits playing parts creating the universe.

In other words, any attempt to reconcile these religions is impossible.
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Postby Novjistrania » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:08 pm

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That one speech where Comrade Hoxha calls out all the revisionists.
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Postby Arachno-Satinism » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:37 pm

Novjistrania wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:RWDT, if I may, I would like to ask a question? What is your favourite speech? It would be preferable if it was right-wing, however, whether or not it is right-wing would not phase me in the slightest; it does not have to be a speech said by a world leader, it can come from anywhere as long as it is in English and comprehensible, and longer then a sentence.

That one speech where Comrade Hoxha calls out all the revisionists.

If you're a Bektashi mystic, why would you support a guy who proclaimed state atheism, banned religious practices and shut down Bektashi tekkes in the very center of its practice?
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Postby -Fahrong- » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:40 pm

I am sorry if I missed Hearts of Iron, land lord apparently was at dacha, just got back to fix my electro.
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Postby Minzerland II » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:40 pm

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Is that Filipino?
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Postby Dagashi Shojo » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:45 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:I am sorry if I missed Hearts of Iron, land lord apparently was at dacha, just got back to fix my electro.


It's fine, I ended up oversleeping and missing it as well.
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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:57 pm

Dagashi Shojo wrote:
-Fahrong- wrote:I am sorry if I missed Hearts of Iron, land lord apparently was at dacha, just got back to fix my electro.


It's fine, I ended up oversleeping and missing it as well.


-Fahrong- wrote:I am sorry if I missed Hearts of Iron, land lord apparently was at dacha, just got back to fix my electro.


Nothing of value was lost. Fair warning that UMN is a supporter of open borders.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:00 pm

Well, I know what triggers me hard: Gun control; the more strict, the more triggered.

Fucking Greeks.

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Postby -Fahrong- » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:04 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Dagashi Shojo wrote:
It's fine, I ended up oversleeping and missing it as well.


-Fahrong- wrote:I am sorry if I missed Hearts of Iron, land lord apparently was at dacha, just got back to fix my electro.


Nothing of value was lost. Fair warning that UMN is a supporter of open borders.

..What did he mean by this?

Germanic Templars wrote:Well, I know what triggers me hard: Gun control; the more strict, the more triggered.

Fucking Greeks.

A lot of the world must trigger you then.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:04 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:Well, I know what triggers me hard: Gun control; the more strict, the more triggered.

Fucking Greeks.


do greeks even have money to enforce such a thing
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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:07 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:
The East Marches wrote:


Nothing of value was lost. Fair warning that UMN is a supporter of open borders.

..What did he mean by this?


UMN's plan
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Postby Minzerland II » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:07 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:Well, I know what triggers me hard: Gun control; the more strict, the more triggered.

Fucking Greeks.


do greeks even have money to enforce such a thing

Probably not, tbh.
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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:08 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:Well, I know what triggers me hard: Gun control; the more strict, the more triggered.

Fucking Greeks.

A lot of the world must trigger you then.


Thats why I complain about foreigners all the time.

Germanic Templars wrote:Well, I know what triggers me hard: Gun control; the more strict, the more triggered.

Fucking Greeks.


This triggers me as well.
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:09 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:Well, I know what triggers me hard: Gun control; the more strict, the more triggered.

Fucking Greeks.

A lot of the world must trigger you then.


Indeed so. Fucking world.

Grand Britannia wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:Well, I know what triggers me hard: Gun control; the more strict, the more triggered.

Fucking Greeks.


do greeks even have money to enforce such a thing


Maybe they pour most of their money into enforcing it?

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