by Wulfenia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:50 pm
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:It's called being a reactionary. No wonder you're unpopular.
by Jochizyd Republic » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:06 pm
by Baltenstein » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:31 pm
To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn?
by Wulfenia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:43 pm
Baltenstein wrote:Fascism is a rational and effective ideology that has worked out wonderfully in no place ever.
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:It's called being a reactionary. No wonder you're unpopular.
by Conserative Morality » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:29 am
Wulfenia wrote:Fascist autarchy increased industrial production, and was responsible for the order necessary for the Italian economic miracle after WW2.
by The United Remnants of America » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:31 am
by Socialist Tera » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:33 am
Wulfenia wrote:Fascism is the name of a political ideology which arose in Italy when Benito Mussolini created the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento. Initially a small nationalist group that later morphed into a large party that managed to frighten the king into handing constitutional power to it's leader, it's vitality and success in defeating the Communists inspired several other movements across the world. After WW2 and the defeat of both Germany and Italy, nobody outside a few nationalist movements have called themselves "Fascist." it has become an epithet for what people don't like.
This thread is to discuss Fascist politics, economics, and history.
To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn? I am ambivalent to them on account they seem like a lot of the same old Neo-Nazi parties here in the States.
by Imperial Union of America » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:36 am
by The United Remnants of America » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:38 am
Socialist Tera wrote:Have most fascist deviated from original fascist thoughts on transgender people?
by Socialist Tera » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:39 am
The United Remnants of America wrote:Socialist Tera wrote:Have most fascist deviated from original fascist thoughts on transgender people?
In my "perfect" form of fascism, they'd be cool. "This is an equal oppression state."
You get the idea. Transgender people are fine as long as nobody causes waves and everyone does their job.
by The United Remnants of America » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:42 am
Socialist Tera wrote:The United Remnants of America wrote:In my "perfect" form of fascism, they'd be cool. "This is an equal oppression state."
You get the idea. Transgender people are fine as long as nobody causes waves and everyone does their job.
Would communists get the helicopter ride treatment? Just curious, not trying to be a dick.
by Imperial Union of America » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:43 am
The United Remnants of America wrote:Socialist Tera wrote:Would communists get the helicopter ride treatment? Just curious, not trying to be a dick.
Only if they try to undermine the State by trying to have a rebellion or forming a political party. If they just keep their thoughts to themselves and pub discussions with friends over a pint, they're fine. Freedom of speech is a good freedom to have up until you start influencing the masses, then you have a responsibility to the people not to be a cunt.
by Socialist Tera » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:43 am
The United Remnants of America wrote:Socialist Tera wrote:Would communists get the helicopter ride treatment? Just curious, not trying to be a dick.
Only if they try to undermine the State by trying to have a rebellion or forming a political party. If they just keep their thoughts to themselves and pub discussions with friends over a pint, they're fine. Freedom of speech is a good freedom to have up until you start influencing the masses, then you have a responsibility to the people not to be a cunt.
by Wulfenia » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:43 am
Conserative Morality wrote:I have more fascist sympathies than I probably should, as a liberal progressive type. Shame it seems to be championed primarily by twats.Wulfenia wrote:Fascist autarchy increased industrial production, and was responsible for the order necessary for the Italian economic miracle after WW2.
Autarky actually inefficient and stupid as hell.
"The changes witnessed during the second half of the 1930's were undeniably responsible for the formation of that technical, geographical, and social order which was to enable the performance of the so-called economic miracle and the definitive transformation of Italy into an industrialized country." - Source
Socialist Tera wrote:I really dislike fascism but I will chime in with information. I used to be a zionist fascist when I was younger, used to love Mosley. I would be killed for being a degenerate in a fascist state.Wulfenia wrote:Fascism is the name of a political ideology which arose in Italy when Benito Mussolini created the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento. Initially a small nationalist group that later morphed into a large party that managed to frighten the king into handing constitutional power to it's leader, it's vitality and success in defeating the Communists inspired several other movements across the world. After WW2 and the defeat of both Germany and Italy, nobody outside a few nationalist movements have called themselves "Fascist." it has become an epithet for what people don't like.
This thread is to discuss Fascist politics, economics, and history.
To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn? I am ambivalent to them on account they seem like a lot of the same old Neo-Nazi parties here in the States.
Have most fascist deviated from original fascist thoughts on transgender people?
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:It's called being a reactionary. No wonder you're unpopular.
by Minzerland II » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:44 am
To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn? I am ambivalent to them on account they seem like a lot of the same old Neo-Nazi parties here in the States.
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by The United Remnants of America » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:49 am
Socialist Tera wrote:The United Remnants of America wrote:Only if they try to undermine the State by trying to have a rebellion or forming a political party. If they just keep their thoughts to themselves and pub discussions with friends over a pint, they're fine. Freedom of speech is a good freedom to have up until you start influencing the masses, then you have a responsibility to the people not to be a cunt.
How would you deal with political parties which have infiltrated towns and started base areas?
by Imperial Union of America » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:49 am
Minzerland II wrote:Not a fan of Fascism, being a Classical Liberal and all that shtick. Nonetheless, I find it an interesting, albeit scary, ideology; this thread should be interesting.To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn? I am ambivalent to them on account they seem like a lot of the same old Neo-Nazi parties here in the States.
Ruffians.
by Socialist Tera » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:50 am
Wulfenia wrote:"The changes witnessed during the second half of the 1930's were undeniably responsible for the formation of that technical, geographical, and social order which was to enable the performance of the so-called economic miracle and the definitive transformation of Italy into an industrialized country." - SourceSocialist Tera wrote:I really dislike fascism but I will chime in with information. I used to be a zionist fascist when I was younger, used to love Mosley. I would be killed for being a degenerate in a fascist state.
Have most fascist deviated from original fascist thoughts on transgender people?
From what I saw in the RWDT a month back, I don't think you really had a good grasp on what Fascism was, since you equated it with conservativism, which it is not. Fascist Italy tended to be a lot milder in it's treatment of homosexuals than what Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, or even Great Britain were. Since I am transgender, I'd say there's nothing really in Fascism to justify homophobia or transphobia, since the basis of Fascism is personal responsibility for one's actions (at least, that was how Gentile felt, and what he imparted in the Doctrine of Fascism).
by Wulfenia » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:51 am
Minzerland II wrote:Not a fan of Fascism, being a Classical Liberal and all that shtick. Nonetheless, I find it an interesting, albeit scary, ideology; this thread should be interesting.
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:It's called being a reactionary. No wonder you're unpopular.
by Minzerland II » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:52 am
Imperial Union of America wrote:Minzerland II wrote:Not a fan of Fascism, being a Classical Liberal and all that shtick. Nonetheless, I find it an interesting, albeit scary, ideology; this thread should be interesting.
Ruffians.
Call them what you want, but a Fascist state has never came about without it's fair share of force.
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Jochizyd Republic » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:52 am
Wulfenia wrote:Minzerland II wrote:Not a fan of Fascism, being a Classical Liberal and all that shtick. Nonetheless, I find it an interesting, albeit scary, ideology; this thread should be interesting.
Fascism is the completion of liberalism, the Fascist state is the purification of the liberal state.
by Torsiedelle » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:52 am
Wulfenia wrote:To start the discussion, what are posters' thoughts on the Golden Dawn? I am ambivalent to them on account they seem like a lot of the same old Neo-Nazi parties here in the States.
by The United Remnants of America » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:53 am
Imperial Union of America wrote:Minzerland II wrote:Not a fan of Fascism, being a Classical Liberal and all that shtick. Nonetheless, I find it an interesting, albeit scary, ideology; this thread should be interesting.
Ruffians.
Call them what you want, but a Fascist state has never came about without it's fair share of force.
by Jochizyd Republic » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:55 am
by Imperial Union of America » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:55 am
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