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What country would you most like to see overthrown by military coup?

U.S.A.
34
15%
Germany
23
10%
France
5
2%
Russia
29
13%
China
25
11%
Turkey
34
15%
Saudi Arabia
42
19%
Iran
20
9%
The Philippines
15
7%
 
Total votes : 227

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:57 pm

The East Marches wrote:He is also trying to split with Uncle Sugar or doing his best anyway. My 8 ball outlook for Duerete's health: Not so good

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:57 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Benuty wrote:I did an OP on this sometime back, and the death toll will most likely be high by the time an assassin puts a bullet in their head. This isn't without warrant since gangs have put a bounty out on the presidents head.


He is also trying to split with Uncle Sugar or doing his best anyway. My 8 ball outlook for Duerete's health: Not so good

Which is dumb when you consider that China is trying to muscle it's way into areas that the Philippines claims.

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Postby Benuty » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:57 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Benuty wrote:I did an OP on this sometime back, and the death toll will most likely be high by the time an assassin puts a bullet in their head. This isn't without warrant since gangs have put a bounty out on the presidents head.


He is also trying to split with Uncle Sugar or doing his best anyway. My 8 ball outlook for Duerete's health: Not so good

Funny you mention that since the Philippines is kind of known for coming back any time China threatens their interests.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:58 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
-Fahrong- wrote:Doesnt hurt to have a plan b. Though many of the institutions of today will need to be forcibly dismantled to allow the reconstruction of the very foundations of Humanity, without us, that dark end will be reached regardless through advanced degradation.

Sounds like you hate humanity.

Is just thinking poorly of many of the ruling institutions of today hating humanity now?
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:58 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches wrote:He is also trying to split with Uncle Sugar or doing his best anyway. My 8 ball outlook for Duerete's health: Not so good

CIA cancer machine in 3... 2... 1...

I'm sorry, sir, you seem to have mistaken Uncle Sam for Uncle Ivan and his radioactive materials habit.
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Postby -Fahrong- » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:58 pm

The East Marches wrote:On that note Gentlemen of RWDT, what are your thoughts on the latest reports from the Philippines? He is literally running death squads against drug types now. What do you think the outcome will be?


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2deep4me. I don't drink the cool-aid that much. I am far more realistically minded. It also sounds like some of those views contrast with your Christian beliefs. How do you reconcile the two?

Sorry, I often just sit and stare at the wall thinking, this is what usually arrives at the top.

I have spent much time thinking about my beliefs and I wouldnt say I agree with that assessment. If the world becomes increasingly hostile to the Church then it may reach a point of being unable to do its duties, I would only expect divine intervention to assist the casting of light upon a world that falls further into darkness and depravity.

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-Fahrong- wrote:No, we are a mystical lifeforce, a great essence in the void of all existence, a great huddled mass of energy and emotion that are wondering in darkness, ignorant of the light of perennial wisdom that seeks to deliver man to its throne of majesty.

Indeed. But do you think that working to militarily hasten this is the right way to go to achieve this goal? Or even possible?

I think preserving perrenial wisdom and tradition and waiting out the inevitably passing storm is the way to go.
Or really the only possible way at this point.

Liberalism recognizes our danger and will want to silence us, there is to be no new enlightenment if we do not protect our seeds of tomorrow.
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Postby The East Marches » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:59 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches wrote:He is also trying to split with Uncle Sugar or doing his best anyway. My 8 ball outlook for Duerete's health: Not so good

CIA cancer machine in 3... 2... 1...


"I see that bad guy X is going to kill Duerete." *slides under pile of reports*

Napkiraly wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
He is also trying to split with Uncle Sugar or doing his best anyway. My 8 ball outlook for Duerete's health: Not so good

Which is dumb when you consider that China is trying to muscle it's way into areas that the Philippines claims.


Which is what I don't get. There is far more at risk here than simple drug lords. He is just going all out. Even removing our advisers from their terror war.
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Postby Ashkera » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:59 pm

The East Marches wrote:On that note Gentlemen of RWDT, what are your thoughts on the latest reports from the Philippines? He is literally running death squads against drug types now. What do you think the outcome will be?

It strikes me that Duterte doesn't know what he's doing. ...or maybe he really does know what he's doing, and things are going to get a lot worse.

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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany- » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:59 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:CIA cancer machine in 3... 2... 1...

I'm sorry, sir, you seem to have mistaken Uncle Sam for Uncle Ivan and his radiation dropping scheme.


Yeah the CIA prefers helicopters.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:59 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:Is just thinking poorly of many of the ruling institutions of today hating humanity now?

If you're looking to reconstruct the foundations of Humanity, that's more than just ruling institutions.
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Are drug users the "wrong" kinds of people?

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:00 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:CIA cancer machine in 3... 2... 1...


"I see that bad guy X is going to kill Duerete." *slides under pile of reports*

Napkiraly wrote:Which is dumb when you consider that China is trying to muscle it's way into areas that the Philippines claims.


Which is what I don't get. There is far more at risk here than simple drug lords. He is just going all out. Even removing our advisers from their terror war.

I know, it's rather peculiar. Maybe's he's banking on China backing off if he starts drifting towards them? I don't think he's going to do that and I don't think China would oblige even if he were.
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Postby -Fahrong- » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:01 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
-Fahrong- wrote:Doesnt hurt to have a plan b. Though many of the institutions of today will need to be forcibly dismantled to allow the reconstruction of the very foundations of Humanity, without us, that dark end will be reached regardless through advanced degradation.

Sounds like you hate humanity.

If I hated humanity I wouldnt spend my days thinking of how to save it even at the cost of the greatests of sacrifice.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:01 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Is just thinking poorly of many of the ruling institutions of today hating humanity now?

If you're looking to reconstruct the foundations of Humanity, that's more than just ruling institutions.

It's not foundations of human culture I think he is describing. Just reconstructing lost ideals from lost traditions of long dead civilizations. That much is very agreeable. At least to me.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:02 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:If you're looking to reconstruct the foundations of Humanity, that's more than just ruling institutions.

It's not foundations of human culture I think he is describing. Just reconstructing lost ideals from lost traditions of long dead civilizations. That much is very agreeable. At least to me.

Depends on which civilization tbh. *looks teary eyed to Roma Invicta* "Grandfather..."

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:02 pm

Napkiraly wrote:I'm sorry, sir, you seem to have mistaken Uncle Sam for Uncle Ivan and his radioactive materials habit.

We're just more advanced than Uncle Whiskers. We have specialized machines, while they still telegram their polonium to their assassination targets.
The East Marches wrote:"I see that bad guy X is going to kill Duerete." *slides under pile of reports*

That's one of my legitimate favorite parts about US power and intelligence. So often we can manipulate events simply by not manipulating events. That right there is real power.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:04 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:Liberalism recognizes our danger and will want to silence us, there is to be no new enlightenment if we do not protect our seeds of tomorrow.

Well yeah, but you can protect something without starting a massive apocalyptic war on purpose.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:04 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:If I hated humanity I wouldnt spend my days thinking of how to save it even at the cost of the greatests of sacrifice.

"In order to save humanity we must destroy it!"
Jochizyd Republic wrote:It's not foundations of human culture I think he is describing. Just reconstructing lost ideals from lost traditions of long dead civilizations. That much is very agreeable. At least to me.

What ideals have been lost from long dead civilizations?
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Postby Minzerland II » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:05 pm

Ashkera wrote:
The East Marches wrote:On that note Gentlemen of RWDT, what are your thoughts on the latest reports from the Philippines? He is literally running death squads against drug types now. What do you think the outcome will be?

It strikes me that Duterte doesn't know what he's doing. ...or maybe he really does know what he's doing, and things are going to get a lot worse.

He knows what he's doing, I guarantee it.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:05 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
-Fahrong- wrote:If I hated humanity I wouldnt spend my days thinking of how to save it even at the cost of the greatests of sacrifice.

"In order to save humanity we must destroy it!"
Jochizyd Republic wrote:It's not foundations of human culture I think he is describing. Just reconstructing lost ideals from lost traditions of long dead civilizations. That much is very agreeable. At least to me.

What ideals have been lost from long dead civilizations?

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Postby The East Marches » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:06 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:
The East Marches wrote:On that note Gentlemen of RWDT, what are your thoughts on the latest reports from the Philippines? He is literally running death squads against drug types now. What do you think the outcome will be?




2deep4me. I don't drink the cool-aid that much. I am far more realistically minded. It also sounds like some of those views contrast with your Christian beliefs. How do you reconcile the two?

Sorry, I often just sit and stare at the wall thinking, this is what usually arrives at the top.

I have spent much time thinking about my beliefs and I wouldnt say I agree with that assessment. If the world becomes increasingly hostile to the Church then it may reach a point of being unable to do its duties, I would only expect divine intervention to assist the casting of light upon a world that falls further into darkness and depravity.


Did you know that thinking too much is bad for you? You shouldn't think so much. Infact, Dr. TEM recommends thinking less than two hours a day. You start thinking too much, you'll loose your mind. I'm not joking on that either.

I thought you didn't, or the Orthodox didn't, believe in divine intervention?

Napkiraly wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
"I see that bad guy X is going to kill Duerete." *slides under pile of reports*



Which is what I don't get. There is far more at risk here than simple drug lords. He is just going all out. Even removing our advisers from their terror war.

I know, it's rather peculiar. Maybe's he's banking on China backing off if he starts drifting towards them? I don't think he's going to do that and I don't think China would oblige even if he were.


I agree with your assessment on both counts. Even if he did drift towards China, lets say for a moment he did. What could they give him that we don't already throw at him?

Ashkera wrote:
The East Marches wrote:On that note Gentlemen of RWDT, what are your thoughts on the latest reports from the Philippines? He is literally running death squads against drug types now. What do you think the outcome will be?

It strikes me that Duterte doesn't know what he's doing. ...or maybe he really does know what he's doing, and things are going to get a lot worse.


How would you tackle the Philippine crime problem?

Napkiraly wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:It's not foundations of human culture I think he is describing. Just reconstructing lost ideals from lost traditions of long dead civilizations. That much is very agreeable. At least to me.

Depends on which civilization tbh. *looks teary eyed to Roma Invicta* "Grandfather..."


We are all but an echo of Rome's glory. Pls liek if u cri evrytiem.

Conserative Morality wrote:That's one of my legitimate favorite parts about US power and intelligence. So often we can manipulate events simply by not manipulating events. That right there is real power.


Indeed it is, I agree.
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Postby -Fahrong- » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:06 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
-Fahrong- wrote:Liberalism recognizes our danger and will want to silence us, there is to be no new enlightenment if we do not protect our seeds of tomorrow.

Well yeah, but you can protect something without starting a massive apocalyptic war on purpose.

And as I have said that should be a last resort, before we reach that point though, we shouldnt be defenseless.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:06 pm

Minzerland II wrote:
Ashkera wrote:It strikes me that Duterte doesn't know what he's doing. ...or maybe he really does know what he's doing, and things are going to get a lot worse.

He knows what he's doing, I guarantee it.

I'm honestly torn whether or not he knows what he is doing. It's hard to tell sometimes until the dust has settled and more facts from within administrations makes their way into the public eye.
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Postby Minzerland II » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:07 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Indeed. But do you think that working to militarily hasten this is the right way to go to achieve this goal? Or even possible?

I think preserving perrenial wisdom and tradition and waiting out the inevitably passing storm is the way to go.
Or really the only possible way at this point.

Liberalism recognizes our danger and will want to silence us, there is to be no new enlightenment if we do not protect our seeds of tomorrow.

Liberalism will empower you rather than silence you.
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Postby The East Marches » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:09 pm

Minzerland II wrote:
-Fahrong- wrote:Liberalism recognizes our danger and will want to silence us, there is to be no new enlightenment if we do not protect our seeds of tomorrow.

Liberalism will empower you rather than silence you.


Have you talked to today's "liberals"? Just look at Nariterrr's ilk, basically a religion in and of itself at this point. With all the want of silencing dissenting voices. I don't give it too long before trying to ban hate speech becomes mainstream. Hopefully this cancer dies out before that point.
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