Is heterosexual hook up culture fuelling rapes on campuses?

[Minzerland II]

Violence is a whole different matter, obviously it constitutes not just a good reason to leave but a VERY good reason to leave.

But how does a normal child not notice that being raised by only one parent is not normal? Or once they find out, how to you expect them to cope?

Anecdotes do not reflect the big picture.

We cope pretty fucking well.
"Mommy why don't I have a daddy?"
"Because I wanted to have you, but I didn't want to wait to fall in love and get married."
"Oh. Does that make me different?"
"A little bit but lots of other children are like you. And you have a family that loves you just as much as any other family loves their children."

Bam. Wow. The child is coping.
Because children aren't fucking porcelain vases that shatter when you tell them they don't have a daddy.

In the Grand Scheme of things they don't cope very well without a father (or mother), personal anecdotes are meaningless in this regard.

[Imperial Union of America]

Yah

Then why waste your time with rape? any woman with genitals can pretty much find a guy to fill whatever emptiness she has.

I apologize for this and any offense it may have caused, Stagnant Axon. Very poorly worded. The sentence does not convey the actual meaning i was trying to communicate.

[Novorobo]

Violence is a whole different matter, obviously it constitutes not just a good reason to leave but a VERY good reason to leave.

But how does a normal child not notice that being raised by only one parent is not normal? Or once they find out, how to you expect them to cope?

Anecdotes do not reflect the big picture.

We cope pretty fucking well.
"Mommy why don't I have a daddy?"
"Because I wanted to have you, but I didn't want to wait to fall in love and get married."
"Oh. Does that make me different?"
"A little bit but lots of other children are like you. And you have a family that loves you just as much as any other family loves their children."

Bam. Wow. The child is coping.
Because children aren't fucking porcelain vases that shatter when you tell them they don't have a daddy.

We're getting nowhere with mere assertions, here are some actual sources that Google search yields.

[Saiwania]

In the Grand Scheme of things they don't cope very well without a father (or mother), personal anecdotes are meaningless in this regard.

I'd have to agree to a limited extent. Children can still be happy with only one parent but it generally speaking, doesn't go perfectly. Depending on the culture they could get the "bastard" stigma and it is worse if they're an orphan. Their peers at school can use it as an excuse to pick on them, etc.

[Imperializt Russia]

I turned out alright.

I'd rather not meet my father; he's currently imprisoned in a federal penitentiary for life for attempted murder of myself and my mother when he discovered she was pregnant with me. I'm perfectly fine with never knowing his name, and I never will.

Whatever makes you think being raised by one parent emotionally scars a child is bull.

Of course, it is very true that some individuals may not be emotionally or mentally equipped to be a single parent, but that's really not common.

Violence is a whole different matter, obviously it constitutes not just a good reason to leave but a VERY good reason to leave.

But how does a normal child not notice that being raised by only one parent is not normal? Or once they find out, how to you expect them to cope?

Anecdotes do not reflect the big picture.

Normal is relative, and so is the relevance of what is abnormal.

[Imperializt Russia]

In the Grand Scheme of things they don't cope very well without a father (or mother), personal anecdotes are meaningless in this regard.

I'd have to agree to a limited extent. Children can still be happy with only one parent but it generally speaking, doesn't go perfectly. Depending on the culture they could get the "bastard" stigma and it is worse if they're an orphan. Their peers at school can use it as an excuse to pick on them, etc.

My hair grows outwards at the side, because it's quick thick. I was picked on for that (amongst a million other things).

"They might be picked on if they don't have a nuclear family" is fairly bullshit reasoning.

[Constantinopolis]

I'd have to agree to a limited extent. Children can still be happy with only one parent but it generally speaking, doesn't go perfectly. Depending on the culture they could get the "bastard" stigma and it is worse if they're an orphan. Their peers at school can use it as an excuse to pick on them, etc.

My hair grows outwards at the side, because it's quick thick. I was picked on for that (amongst a million other things).

"They might be picked on if they don't have a nuclear family" is fairly bullshit reasoning.

Very true. But you know what isn't bullshit?

Long-term statistical evidence that children from single parent households do worse in life - by a number of different measures - than children from two-parent households.

Really, it shouldn't come as a surprise that having two loving parents is much better in every way than having a single loving parent. Two are better than one.

And I would go further and say that a tight-knit and loving extended family is also probably much better than two parents alone, although given the structure of modern society it is extremely difficult to keep an extended family together in one place. But the ideal situation, IMO, is to have a mother, a father, grandparents, aunts and uncles all involved in raising the child.

[Imperializt Russia]

My hair grows outwards at the side, because it's quick thick. I was picked on for that (amongst a million other things).

"They might be picked on if they don't have a nuclear family" is fairly bullshit reasoning.

Very true. But you know what isn't bullshit?

Long-term statistical evidence that children from single parent households do worse in life - by a number of different measures - than children from two-parent households.

Really, it shouldn't come as a surprise that having two loving parents is much better in every way than having a single loving parent. Two are better than one.

And I would go further and say that a tight-knit and loving extended family is also probably much better than two parents alone, although given the structure of modern society it is extremely difficult to keep an extended family together in one place. But the ideal situation, IMO, is to have a mother, a father, grandparents, aunts and uncles all involved in raising the child.

This is in large part due to the fact that single-parent households are traditionally poor(er).

Not helped in the US when the Republicans are furiously trying to end every possible welfare programme available to try and change that.

[Saiwania]

"They might be picked on if they don't have a nuclear family" is fairly bullshit reasoning.

It is less likely to happen in a dysfunctional country with regards to family, like the US is, where divorce is sky high. But in a more traditional nation state like Romania for example, it is a setting (barring urban areas) where everyone knows about everyone else who lives nearby and if you're an orphan in a village, you get all sorts of social stigmatization from both other children and adults. Very frowned on upon in some places to not have any inheritance, estate, or clan to your name.

[Krasny-Volny]

I have to disagree that hook up culture is limited to white, male, and conventionally attractive individuals, as Chessmistress's source states.

Oh sure, if you're writing from a predominantly white, upper crust college campus it might seem that way. But I've spent most of my life in predominantly non-white neighborhoods and districts. And let me make something perfectly clear: it's just as much an issue among college age people of every other race and social status.

Peer pressure is the reason. Peer pressure doesn't discriminate by color or socioeconomic background.

[Minzerland II]

In the Grand Scheme of things they don't cope very well without a father (or mother), personal anecdotes are meaningless in this regard.

I'd have to agree to a limited extent. Children can still be happy with only one parent but it generally speaking, doesn't go perfectly. Depending on the culture they could get the "bastard" stigma and it is worse if they're an orphan. Their peers at school can use it as an excuse to pick on them, etc.

My point being that some children may be able to cope, however, the majority of children don't cope, I found it disingenuous to say 'we cope pretty fucking well', a personal anecdote perhaps, when that isn't true in the Grand Scheme of things.

[Costa Fierro]

All men are rapists, yadda yadda yadda. Seriously Chess, do you have any arguments that doesn't paint half the population as uncontrollable semen filled apes?

[The first Galactic Republic]

I disagree with this, Casual sex is still frowned upon by part of society today, a very vocal part, and trying to explain to people casual sex with others whilst your in a committed relationship? Pffft forget about it.

"Overpaid, oversexed and over here".

That was the 1940s.

The lives of soldiers have always been rather different than the lives of everyone else.

[The Serbian Empire]

No, rapists gonna rape no matter what the culture is. Look at the Saudis. There's still rapists there.

[Minzerland II]

I'd also like to see the statistics and correlations of which you've drawn your conclusion, btw.

[Herskerstad]

What if I violently rape a man?

You would act using toxic masculinity, it would show that you have internalized misogyny.
Just like sisters who slapped the asses of other women during meetings.
It happens, sometimes, I'm not going to lie about it.
But it's more and more an uncommon behavior.

I love this idea that only sphere which introduces sexual invasions is the masculine, as if the feminine is naturally exempt from error on the part and can only resort to such when being 'corrupted.' It's very Beauvoiran, ideals based upon unbalanced perspective which's precepts on discernment disprove it's very own core thesis. Rape is masculine and therefore cannot be feminine, but when females do it they are utilising masculinity and internalised misogyny, elements presumably not native to them, even in historical instances were neither the parent culture nor the close kin or relations come sufficiently close to establishing an account on their deviancy or violence, because the ideal must be preserved above reality and in every case it must be based in an external influence rather than an internal, self-developed expression. If not, one might actually find concepts such as virtues in 'the others', to which no ideal puritanism, be it race or sex-based, can survive proper examination.

[Luminesa]

I'd say there's a hookup culture of sorts, probably, but I would not say it's just "privileged" straight white males. Girls and guys do it. To each other. Girls and guys of every race. And cultural background. Rich or poor.

As for fueling a rape culture?...It certainly turns sex into a commodity of sorts. And many rapes do happen on college campuses.

[Costa Fierro]

I'd say there's a hookup culture of sorts, probably, but I would not say it's just "privileged" straight white males. Girls and guys do it. To each other. Girls and guys of every race. And cultural background. Rich or poor.

As for fueling a rape culture?...It certainly turns sex into a commodity of sorts. And many rapes do happen on college campuses.

I wonder if the OP is aware of something called "Tinder".

[Luminesa]

I'd say there's a hookup culture of sorts, probably, but I would not say it's just "privileged" straight white males. Girls and guys do it. To each other. Girls and guys of every race. And cultural background. Rich or poor.

As for fueling a rape culture?...It certainly turns sex into a commodity of sorts. And many rapes do happen on college campuses.

I wonder if the OP is aware of something called "Tinder".

Well, if she isn't, if it makes her feel better, I don't have one and pretty much have no idea how it works myself.

[Imperializt Russia]

"Overpaid, oversexed and over here".

That was the 1940s.

The lives of soldiers have always been rather different than the lives of everyone else.

They weren't having sex with the other soldiers (most of them, anyway), I'll tell you that much.

There was a casual sex culture in the 1940s in several countries, arguably because of the war - there's even the anecdotes of Berlin girls eloping with young boys, so their first time wouldn't be as the rape victim of a Soviet soldier.

[Krasny-Volny]

The lives of soldiers have always been rather different than the lives of everyone else.

They weren't having sex with the other soldiers (most of them, anyway), I'll tell you that much.

There was a casual sex culture in the 1940s in several countries, arguably because of the war - there's even the anecdotes of Berlin girls eloping with young boys, so their first time wouldn't be as the rape victim of a Soviet soldier.

[citation needed]

[Luminesa]

They weren't having sex with the other soldiers (most of them, anyway), I'll tell you that much.

There was a casual sex culture in the 1940s in several countries, arguably because of the war - there's even the anecdotes of Berlin girls eloping with young boys, so their first time wouldn't be as the rape victim of a Soviet soldier.

[citation needed]

*Raises hand.*

Does "All Quiet On The Western Front" count? Even if it was WWI?

[Costa Fierro]

I wonder if the OP is aware of something called "Tinder".

Well, if she isn't, if it makes her feel better, I don't have one and pretty much have no idea how it works myself.

Basically you just swipe whatever direction to ignore all the ridiculously attractive women looking for live-action dildos until you develop carpal tunnel.

[Luminesa]

Well, if she isn't, if it makes her feel better, I don't have one and pretty much have no idea how it works myself.

Basically you just swipe whatever direction to ignore all the ridiculously attractive women looking for live-action dildos until you develop carpal tunnel.

Sounds like a waste of time. XD

[Constantinopolis]

Very true. But you know what isn't bullshit?

Long-term statistical evidence that children from single parent households do worse in life - by a number of different measures - than children from two-parent households.

Really, it shouldn't come as a surprise that having two loving parents is much better in every way than having a single loving parent. Two are better than one.

And I would go further and say that a tight-knit and loving extended family is also probably much better than two parents alone, although given the structure of modern society it is extremely difficult to keep an extended family together in one place. But the ideal situation, IMO, is to have a mother, a father, grandparents, aunts and uncles all involved in raising the child.

This is in large part due to the fact that single-parent households are traditionally poor(er).

Pick any level of income X, and any number of children Y.

It will always be true that it's harder to support Y+1 people on income X (i.e. one parent supporting herself and the kids), than to support Y+2 people on income 2X (i.e. two parents supporting themselves and the kids).

Sure, the poverty associated with single parenthood makes things a lot worse, but single parenthood in and of itself, with or without poverty, also makes it economically harder to support a family than if you had two parents of the same income.

Not helped in the US when the Republicans are furiously trying to end every possible welfare programme available to try and change that.

The Republicans are evil and their policies are always designed to screw the poor and make their rich friends richer.

But their rhetoric is sometimes correct, about a few things. One of those things is the importance of the family. Of course they don't do anything to actually strengthen families (because they don't actually care), but what they are saying on this topic is generally correct.