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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Araraukar » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:11 am

No Names Left Damn It wrote:I agree, I was merely stating that there are at least a few cheaters out there.


Very true. I knew a university student once (back when I was in the uni myself) who faked burnout every spring just so she'd get mental health leave (and financial benefits) every summer, instead of having to look for a job. Back then I was still able to struggle through the hardships financially (less employment going around), so when she told me of this, I felt a very strong urge to 1) give her a good trashing for being a lying cunt and 2) report her to the authorities. I can't remember why I didn't do one or the other... probably was too busy trying to scrape together a living. :(
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Ferretia Prime » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:12 am

Damn...i do believe i made myself look like an idiot. Curses.

Last time i type and attempt to Watch "Murder she Wrote" at the Same time.

I feel quite Dis-satisfied with myself.

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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Khari Duma » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:14 am

Well I don't know if you would consider me a parasite leeching off the American government. I am pregnant, and a full time student at college. I have no time whatsoever for a job, and I am on WIC. I'm sure you would want to keep the pregnant women on WIC healthy right?

Now college students who use a bridge card for beer and cigarettes. Those are the parasites that need to be weeded out. They abuse the privelge of having a bridge card. If I was a taxpayer I would be pissed about this.
So I seperated your parasites from innocent humans needing help.

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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Araraukar » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:17 am

Ferretia Prime wrote:*walks away, head hung low*

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Aww, don't go away. We need more people who can admit to being wrong in an open debate. :hug:
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Neo Art » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:17 am

Khari Duma wrote:Well I don't know if you would consider me a parasite leeching off the American government. I am pregnant, and a full time student at college. I have no time whatsoever for a job, and I am on WIC. I'm sure you would want to keep the pregnant women on WIC healthy right?


No, you are obviously a worthless parasite leeching off hard working americans :roll:
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby No Names Left Damn It » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:20 am

Neo Art wrote:No, you are obviously a worthless parasite leeching off hard working americans :roll:


I'm amazed she hasn't murdered her innocent baby yet.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Neo Art » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:23 am

No Names Left Damn It wrote:
Neo Art wrote:No, you are obviously a worthless parasite leeching off hard working americans :roll:


I'm amazed she hasn't murdered her innocent baby yet.


and eatten it.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Araraukar » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:25 am

Neo Art wrote:
No Names Left Damn It wrote:I'm amazed she hasn't murdered her innocent baby yet.


and eatten it.


Babies are no good for your health, eaten: mainly fat tissue in addition to bones and sinew. :p
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby No Names Left Damn It » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:27 am

Neo Art wrote:and eatten it.


And then sacrificed its corpse to Allah and/or Richard Dawkins.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Sibirsky » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:27 am

Khari Duma wrote:Well I don't know if you would consider me a parasite leeching off the American government. I am pregnant, and a full time student at college. I have no time whatsoever for a job, and I am on WIC. I'm sure you would want to keep the pregnant women on WIC healthy right?

Now college students who use a bridge card for beer and cigarettes. Those are the parasites that need to be weeded out. They abuse the privelge of having a bridge card. If I was a taxpayer I would be pissed about this.
So I seperated your parasites from innocent humans needing help.


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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:28 am

Has anyone looked at the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996, also known as the Welfare Reform Act? It provides for, among other things:

- Ending welfare as an entitlement program;
- Requiring recipients to begin working after two years of receiving benefits;
- Placing a lifetime limit of five years on benefits paid by federal funds;
- Aiming to encourage two-parent families and discouraging out-of-wedlock births.

Also, an interesting statistic in the Wiki article is that "Between 1936 and 1969, the number of families receiving support increased from 162,000 to 1,875,000. After 1970, however, federal funding for the program lagged behind inflation. Between 1970 and 1994, typical benefits for a family of three fell 47% after adjusting for inflation." Not quite the cushy lifestyle, is it?

There has been criticism of the PRWORA, as might be expected. I just wanted to point out that being on welfare in the United States hardly makes one a parasite, and that the system is hardly a running sore through which the life-blood of the nation is hemorraghing.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Ferretia Prime » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:29 am

I think the Goverment could do the following

-If people can't leave their homes: try to create home-based Employment - the Internet has made this easier than ever

-if People can't work due to Disability: try to 1) Change laws to make Work more Accessible for the Disabled 2) Increase H/S to prevent such Accidents

-If Parents can't seek employment due to Disabled children then the Goverment should make Facilities Avalible for Disabled Children, Nursing Staff should be brought in to Help said Parents.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby No Names Left Damn It » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:30 am

Ferretia Prime wrote:Increase H/S to prevent such Accidents


How about socialised healthcare, that might help.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Ferretia Prime » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:31 am

Araraukar wrote:
Ferretia Prime wrote:*walks away, head hung low*

((Yes...i can admit when i was wrong))


Aww, don't go away. We need more people who can admit to being wrong in an open debate. :hug:



Agreed! :kiss: :lol: :p
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Military: 400'000
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Ferretia Prime » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:34 am

No Names Left Damn It wrote:
Ferretia Prime wrote:Increase H/S to prevent such Accidents


How about socialised healthcare, that might help.


I'm British, and a Trainee Admin. Nurse for the NHS....

So, already have that.
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Population: 7 Million
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Military: 400'000
Police: 40'000
Business:'110'000
Criminal: 1'200
UnEmployed: 750
Others: Meh, our Director of Information is bad at Maths!


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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby No Names Left Damn It » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:38 am

Ferretia Prime wrote:I'm British, and a Trainee Admin. Nurse for the NHS....

So, already have that.


Ah, thought you were American, sorry.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Ferretia Prime » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:39 am

No Names Left Damn It wrote:
Ferretia Prime wrote:I'm British, and a Trainee Admin. Nurse for the NHS....

So, already have that.


Ah, thought you were American, sorry.



Word Cannot Describe the Pain that just brought to my Cold, stale British Heart...
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Military: 400'000
Police: 40'000
Business:'110'000
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UnEmployed: 750
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby No Names Left Damn It » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:41 am

Ferretia Prime wrote:Word Cannot Describe the Pain that just brought to my Cold, stale British Heart...


Why do you Randomly Capitalise Every few words? It's a Bit Weird and is a Sign of Poor grammar Skills.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:41 am

Ferretia Prime wrote:
No Names Left Damn It wrote:
Ferretia Prime wrote:I'm British, and a Trainee Admin. Nurse for the NHS....

So, already have that.


Ah, thought you were American, sorry.



Word Cannot Describe the Pain that just brought to my Cold, stale British Heart...

Perhaps that was your Cold, Stale British Heart expanding under the warmth of an American smile. ;)
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby No Names Left Damn It » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:43 am

Farnhamia wrote:Perhaps that was your Cold, Stale British Heart expanding under the warmth of an American smile. ;)


Eh? I don't quite understand that one.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Ferretia Prime » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:46 am

No Names Left Damn It wrote:
Ferretia Prime wrote:Word Cannot Describe the Pain that just brought to my Cold, stale British Heart...


Why do you Randomly Capitalise Every few words? It's a Bit Weird and is a Sign of Poor grammar Skills.


That is due to a Firefox Application.

An Application is rather like therefore I Do Not see the point in Disabling it.

Sorry you Disapprove.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Araraukar » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:46 am

Ferretia Prime wrote:
No Names Left Damn It wrote:Why do you Randomly Capitalise Every few words? It's a Bit Weird and is a Sign of Poor grammar Skills.


That is due to a Firefox Application.

An Application is rather like therefore I Do Not see the point in Disabling it.

Sorry you Disapprove.


:blink: What application is that? :blink:
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Ferretia Prime » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:47 am

No Names Left Damn It wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Perhaps that was your Cold, Stale British Heart expanding under the warmth of an American smile. ;)


Eh? I don't quite understand that one.


I got His Point.

It make me lol.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Natapoc » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:48 am

No, Just because someone is unable to be sufficiently productive in furthering your nation's chosen economic system to maintain employment does not mean they are not contributing back to society in some other way. In my experience the parasites are the ones who wear suits, talk in sound bites, and demand far more then their fair share of the worlds resources while contributing nothing and living only for their own pleasure.
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Re: Welfare recipients - Innocent Humans or Parasites?

Postby Ferretia Prime » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:50 am

Araraukar wrote:
Ferretia Prime wrote:
No Names Left Damn It wrote:Why do you Randomly Capitalise Every few words? It's a Bit Weird and is a Sign of Poor grammar Skills.


That is due to a Firefox Application.

An Application is rather like therefore I Do Not see the point in Disabling it.

Sorry you Disapprove.


:blink: What application is that? :blink:


It's an Application, called FoxWord.

Yes, i find it annoying sometimes but overall it is very effective and useful.
Population Employment Numbers
Nation of Ferretia Prime

Population: 7 Million
Political: 500
Military: 400'000
Police: 40'000
Business:'110'000
Criminal: 1'200
UnEmployed: 750
Others: Meh, our Director of Information is bad at Maths!


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