Washington (US Political RP; 2016 ; OOC ; OPEN!)

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Alabama - Carrollton
American Samoa Caucus (D only) - Carrollton/Kirk
Arkansas - Danders
Colorado Caucus
Georgia - Carrollton
Massachusetts - Unclear though Carrollton will not be winning but up for grabs for the rest
Minnesota Caucus - Kuznetsov
North Dakota Caucus - Kuznetsov
Oklahoma - Danders
Tennessee - Unclear though definitely not Kirk
Texas - Carrollton/Kuznetsov
Vermont - Danders
Virginia - Kuznetsov/Kirk

[Sanabel]

That I am.

Plus, I dont see how either of those is not for us to determine, if the first is essentially our individual candidates' corruption, and the second is pretty easy to do

Part of this just seems like you OOCly trying to avoid having any competition for Carrollton.

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First off, corruption is entirely different from just willy-nilly deciding for ourselves how many superdelegates our characters earn. That is something a non-biased, non-involved person should determine, just as non-biased, non-involved persons are involved with determining how many pledged delegates our characters have already earned. I am literally just applying that same principle for super delegates to what we are doing with pledged delegates. RP your acts of corruption all you want, but it's not for us to decide how many delegates we earn.

Secondly, are you kidding me? Really? Dude, I've been giving you advice, HELPING YOUR CHARACTER EARN DELEGATES. No joke, that accusation just ticked me off.

Alright, fine then. Let a neutral person pick. But then how about letting me make my case as to why Beaumont would gain a lot on the OOC and campaign for them ICly, without whining about metagamimg and shit.

Not how I see it. From my view, all you have done is try and prevent me from making a case as to why Beaumont would do well with super delegates, and tried to talk me out of campaigning in the South. Moreover, your advice wasn't really wanted. I ticked you off? Oh well, too bad.

[Imperial Esplanade]

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First off, corruption is entirely different from just willy-nilly deciding for ourselves how many superdelegates our characters earn. That is something a non-biased, non-involved person should determine, just as non-biased, non-involved persons are involved with determining how many pledged delegates our characters have already earned. I am literally just applying that same principle for super delegates to what we are doing with pledged delegates. RP your acts of corruption all you want, but it's not for us to decide how many delegates we earn.

Secondly, are you kidding me? Really? Dude, I've been giving you advice, HELPING YOUR CHARACTER EARN DELEGATES. No joke, that accusation just ticked me off.

He was saying that he was more in bed with the elite, not that he would earn more superdelegates. That is something that helps earn them, of course, but I did not notice any claims of victory in that post, at least.

Ah, misread what he meant by 'second part.'

I was too busy being in disbelief at being accused for attempting to OOCly block competition to notice, I suppose.

[Krugeristan]

Pretty sure I know the answer to this, but I doubt that Garestaer has ever been hunting, or has he?

He did while growing up in Alaska, but it was mainly for food and survival, not sport. Mainly deer, bears, wolves, and foxes he's killed.

[Prolieum]

Alabama - Carrollton
American Samoa Caucus (D only) - Carrollton/Kirk
Arkansas - Danders
Colorado Caucus
Georgia - Carrollton
Massachusetts - Unclear though Carrollton will not be winning but up for grabs for the rest
Minnesota Caucus - Kuznetsov
North Dakota Caucus - Kuznetsov
Oklahoma - Danders
Tennessee - Unclear though definitely not Kirk
Texas - Carrollton/Kuznetsov
Vermont - Danders
Virginia - Kuznetsov/Kirk

Kuznetsov should not be doing that well in Texas. That is going to be almost all Carrollton. Danders should probably take Minnesota as well, or at least be split with Kuznetsov there.

[Sanabel]

Alabama - Carrollton
American Samoa Caucus (D only) - Carrollton/Kirk
Arkansas - Danders
Colorado Caucus
Georgia - Carrollton
Massachusetts - Unclear though Carrollton will not be winning but up for grabs for the rest
Minnesota Caucus - Kuznetsov
North Dakota Caucus - Kuznetsov
Oklahoma - Danders
Tennessee - Unclear though definitely not Kirk
Texas - Carrollton/Kuznetsov
Vermont - Danders
Virginia - Kuznetsov/Kirk

We still have a debate and a few days of campaigning, but yeah, id say those are accurate predictions.

Pretty sure I know the answer to this, but I doubt that Garestaer has ever been hunting, or has he?

He did while growing up in Alaska, but it was mainly for food and survival, not sport. Mainly deer, bears, wolves, and foxes he's killed.

What was he, like a woodsman? Last I checked, they have modern amenities like grocery stores...

[Prolieum]

Guys, guys, calm down a bit. The superdelegates are not going to come into play for a while, let's just ease off them for now, alright?

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Alabama - Carrollton
American Samoa Caucus (D only) - Carrollton/Kirk
Arkansas - Danders
Colorado Caucus
Georgia - Carrollton
Massachusetts - Unclear though Carrollton will not be winning but up for grabs for the rest
Minnesota Caucus - Kuznetsov
North Dakota Caucus - Kuznetsov
Oklahoma - Danders
Tennessee - Unclear though definitely not Kirk
Texas - Carrollton/Kuznetsov
Vermont - Danders
Virginia - Kuznetsov/Kirk

Kuznetsov should not be doing that well in Texas. That is going to be almost all Carrollton. Danders should probably take Minnesota as well, or at least be split with Kuznetsov there.

I still feel that Kuz has a chance to at least come in second in Texas. But I see your point. My mistake, Danders would really take Minnesota as well.

Sidenote, which Republican candidate is the most pro-gun? Like guns are in my blood

[Prolieum]

Oh, man, no talking about Murray? I was all ready for that.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Guys, guys, calm down a bit. The superdelegates are not going to come into play for a while, let's just ease off them for now, alright?

I overrule you and say that they are! I will give every superdelegate to Winston of course so shut up!

Jk, seriously speaking, I will list off some numbers of the few superdelegates who have pledged. Do know that pledged delegates can fluctuate depending on what you do. And only around 30 will be given. So let me do some quick reading and I'll have those out.

[Prolieum]

Kuznetsov should not be doing that well in Texas. That is going to be almost all Carrollton. Danders should probably take Minnesota as well, or at least be split with Kuznetsov there.

I still feel that Kuz has a chance to at least come in second in Texas. But I see your point. My mistake, Danders would really take Minnesota as well.

Sidenote, which Republican candidate is the most pro-gun? Like guns are in my blood

Do not forget about Beaumont, either. He is going to be competitive in at least a few places.

Massachusetts is going to be Kuznetsov's strongest state outside of Virginia. Danders will get some traction, but I definitely think she will win there. Not confident about Texas, though.

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[Sanabel]

I still feel that Kuz has a chance to at least come in second in Texas. But I see your point. My mistake, Danders would really take Minnesota as well.

Sidenote, which Republican candidate is the most pro-gun? Like guns are in my blood

Do not forget about Beaumont, either. He is going to be competitive in at least a few places.

Massachusetts is going to be Kuznetsov's strongest state outside of Virginia. Danders will get some traction, but I definitely think she will win there.

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Mostly Colorado and perhaps Minnesota.

When can I realistically make it tomorrow inside Beaumont's time bend to start campaigning there?

[Prolieum]

Pretty sure I know the answer to this, but I doubt that Garestaer has ever been hunting, or has he?

He did while growing up in Alaska, but it was mainly for food and survival, not sport. Mainly deer, bears, wolves, and foxes he's killed.

I don't know, I would have just expected him to get sick, and frustrated at the whole thing, and probably complain about his lack of vision before going home.

[The Boras]

Here is the new Democratic schedule I had published, let me know what you all think of it.

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=680900

Also, how are colors formatted on here?

Still can't attend the debate because it's weekday. I think Kirk has to skip the debates.

[Imperial Esplanade]

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First off, corruption is entirely different from just willy-nilly deciding for ourselves how many superdelegates our characters earn. That is something a non-biased, non-involved person should determine, just as non-biased, non-involved persons are involved with determining how many pledged delegates our characters have already earned. I am literally just applying that same principle for super delegates to what we are doing with pledged delegates. RP your acts of corruption all you want, but it's not for us to decide how many delegates we earn.

Secondly, are you kidding me? Really? Dude, I've been giving you advice, HELPING YOUR CHARACTER EARN DELEGATES. No joke, that accusation just ticked me off.

Alright, fine then. Let a neutral person pick. But then how about letting me make my case as to why Beaumont would gain a lot on the OOC and campaign for them ICly, without whining about metagamimg and shit.

Not how I see it. From my view, all you have done is try and prevent me from making a case as to why Beaumont would do well with super delegates, and tried to talk me out of campaigning in the South. Moreover, your advice wasn't really wanted. I ticked you off? Oh well, too bad.

From my perspective, it seemed as though what you were hinting at was more or less a form of metagaming. (ICing attempting to win them over, as well as controlling the result of said attempt). I was simply saying that it would be an unfair way to go about things, no matter who did them. (OOCly blocking competition would be saying I should control those characters, and not a neutral arbitrator.) If this was not what you were saying at-all, then I apologize for the misunderstanding. There was a lot of room for misinterpretation in that post you made.

Furthermore, no I do not wish to block any competition and dominate the IC-thread. That essentially kills the fun out of any RP. I've never tried to prevent you from making your case, if anything I provided a second observation for you to consider in your line-of-thinking. This is why I suggested, which I thought was helpful might I add -- especially since you're following said advice as we speak, that you seek out states none of us are campaigning in to start things off. But hey.... you do whatever you want, I am not going to stop you. Just don't attack me for not making suggestions from this point onward, just as you did for me basically just trying to be nice and help you get on your feet. I'm finished. Good luck with your character.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Democratic Party Super-Delegates

First 30 Delegates To Pledge

15 - Carrollton
11 - Kuznetsov
3 - Danders
1 - Kirk (Technically does not count but heck, one did it anyone, or at least said he would.)

[Prolieum]

Do not forget about Beaumont, either. He is going to be competitive in at least a few places.

Massachusetts is going to be Kuznetsov's strongest state outside of Virginia. Danders will get some traction, but I definitely think she will win there.

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Mostly Colorado and perhaps Minnesota.

When can I realistically make it tomorrow inside Beaumont's time bend to start campaigning there?

He could have announced Sunday, so perhaps two rallies with a time crunch, or three if nearby, in one heck of a blitz. If you focus on a single state, maybe four, but we are talking early-morning rallies then.

[Prolieum]

Democratic Party Super-Delegates

First 30 Delegates To Pledge

15 - Carrollton
11 - Kuznetsov
3 - Danders
1 - Kirk (Technically does not count but heck, one did it anyone, or at least said he would.)

Beaumont should have a few more, Kuznetsov a few less.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Democratic Party Super-Delegates

First 30 Delegates To Pledge

15 - Carrollton
11 - Kuznetsov
3 - Danders
1 - Kirk (Technically does not count but heck, one did it anyone, or at least said he would.)

Beaumont should have a few more, Kuznetsov a few less.

Beaumont is not going to be taken seriously until probably after Super Tuesday once he actually proves he stands a chance. I remain by my decision.

[Sanabel]

Mostly Colorado and perhaps Minnesota.

When can I realistically make it tomorrow inside Beaumont's time bend to start campaigning there?

He could have announced Sunday, so perhaps two rallies with a time crunch, or three if nearby, in one heck of a blitz. If you focus on a single state, maybe four, but we are talking early-morning rallies then.

I'm thinking blitzing Colorado just to get on the map.

I meant when in IRL time after posting that announcement would it be appropriate to begin.

[Imperial Esplanade]

Here is the new Democratic schedule I had published, let me know what you all think of it.

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=680900

Also, how are colors formatted on here?

Still can't attend the debate because it's weekday. I think Kirk has to skip the debates.

So, weekends work best for you?

What about the rest of you, who control Dem candidates? I want to make it so that we can have as many of us present as possible.

[Prolieum]

Beaumont should have a few more, Kuznetsov a few less.

Beaumont is not going to be taken seriously until probably after Super Tuesday once he actually proves he stands a chance. I remain by my decision.

You can bet if a well-known, establishment, mayor of NYC jumped into a race led by a former Republican and a pro-life, hard-left revolutionary, that some superdelegates latch onto him like leeches right off the bat.

[Krugeristan]

He did while growing up in Alaska, but it was mainly for food and survival, not sport. Mainly deer, bears, wolves, and foxes he's killed.

I don't know, I would have just expected him to get sick, and frustrated at the whole thing, and probably complain about his lack of vision before going home.

Heterochromia joke?

Not really. You caught Garestaer on a good day, which is extremely rare.

[Prolieum]

Still can't attend the debate because it's weekday. I think Kirk has to skip the debates.

So, weekends work best for you?

What about the rest of you, who control Dem candidates? I want to make it so that we can have as many of us present as possible.

Starting a full-time internship in D.C. next week, which is going to be total chaos, I will probably be out of the RP for several days at least. This week is probably the last when I have a real chance to do a debate-I am busy all day Wednesday, Sunday I may have an hour, Friday night might work.

[Prolieum]

Still can't attend the debate because it's weekday. I think Kirk has to skip the debates.

So, weekends work best for you?

What about the rest of you, who control Dem candidates? I want to make it so that we can have as many of us present as possible.

Starting a full-time internship in D.C. next week, which is going to be total chaos, I will probably be out of the RP for several days at least. This week is probably the last when I have a real chance to do a debate-I am busy all day Wednesday, Sunday I may have an hour, Friday night might work.