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Postby Excidium Planetis » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:15 am

New Roman Empire wrote:Vice Secretary General Tal stood up once he heard Project Orion, "Yes as you all currently know the current flagship of the GRF is of UTA design and construction. We believe that a joint project to replace that ship with input from all species would go a long way in show how GESO cooperates with its members. This would go a long way with show unity in GESO, but more importantly, it would show that we can come together to agree on a ship that has technology from all member states in it. So what we propose is a new flagship to be made with technology from all member states."


"While a noble idea, which species would it be designed for?" Ambassador Causer asks. "The physiological features of GESO member nations varies, and a ship should be built for its crew. Should the artificial gravity be stronger than Terran gravity or lighter? How wide should the airlocks be? What color are the warning labels? These are all important things to consider when building a ship, and the answers vary by species."
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Postby Houseidou » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:17 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:
New Roman Empire wrote:Vice Secretary General Tal stood up once he heard Project Orion, "Yes as you all currently know the current flagship of the GRF is of UTA design and construction. We believe that a joint project to replace that ship with input from all species would go a long way in show how GESO cooperates with its members. This would go a long way with show unity in GESO, but more importantly, it would show that we can come together to agree on a ship that has technology from all member states in it. So what we propose is a new flagship to be made with technology from all member states."


"While a noble idea, which species would it be designed for?" Ambassador Causer asks. "The physiological features of GESO member nations varies, and a ship should be built for its crew. Should the artificial gravity be stronger than Terran gravity or lighter? How wide should the airlocks be? What color are the warning labels? These are all important things to consider when building a ship, and the answers vary by species."


"Agreed." Ambassador Birushana nods to her Excidium Planetis counterpart. "Furthermore, who would build the ship? Would we build components in each member nation to assemble at a designated point, and if that method, who would make sure everyone's components were to the same specifications? Or would we have each member nation contribute a technology and bring together a think tank of our best shipwrights, scientists, naval officers, and engineers to build it? Should we have a committee of all interested parties to discuss who builds what, and what do we do if a nation feels left out, or feels they do not have a significant enough contribution? Finally, what systems should we include in the ship? Whose technology will this flagship rely upon for its defense and victory?

"To help answer that last question, while my nation may be somewhat behind in technology compared to our fellow members of GESO, we feel we have a solid grasp on gravitics, the science of gravity and the way it interacts with space-time, enough to offer our 'drill' technology as a potential alternate FTL drive, should the main one fail." She brings up the files on her screen and shares the blueprints for a "drill" drive to all of the GESO ambassadors. "Based on our observations, our drive, while noticeably slower than other methods of FTL present, is much more reliable and precise, and can also be used for STL reactionless maneuvering. However, the drive has particular ship design constraints, as the area of altered frame-drag sheer it creates is narrower towards the frontal area of affect than at the rear, so our ships generally tend to be long and have a tighter prow with a wider stern. Finally, the 'drill' works better the farther out it is from a gravity well, and within a certain range inside of a sun or a planet's gravity well, it will not function at all. We will also be willing to offer our plasma torpedo technology for your consideration as well." She hopes her gesture of good faith will encourage other nations to contribute their knowledge to the effort as well.

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Postby RawHein » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:52 am

"I admit to not being a military person" Far'Ha replied as the NRE delegate seemed busy with something else, "But are we, hundreds of species within GESO, not sitting in this very room without suffocating to death, or being infected by each other's bacterial colonies, or being blinded by the lighting, and so on? Clearly, the technology to allow us to co-exist in a single ship does exist, and more to the point it would not need to be staffed by multiple nations - each nation can contribute in a different way. One can provide staffing, true, and another will happen to provide FTL, or armour, communications, AI, or sub-FTL, or even the shipyards to build it, for tax credit. If they cannot, because others are superior or because they are unwilling to share that technology then they are already contributing financially through taxation."
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:28 am

Rawhein wrote:"I admit to not being a military person" Far'Ha replied as the NRE delegate seemed busy with something else, "But are we, hundreds of species within GESO, not sitting in this very room without suffocating to death, or being infected by each other's bacterial colonies, or being blinded by the lighting, and so on?"


"Only because we wear Self Contained Environment suits." Colonel Aisling remarks, gesturing to the full-body air tight suit that Excidians wear for diplomatic meetings, business meetings, or situations which may result in exposure to foreign pathogens.

"Surely you don't expect us to wear these things for the entire duration of a ship's tour of duty?"
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Postby Houseidou » Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:59 am

Rawhein wrote:"I admit to not being a military person" Far'Ha replied as the NRE delegate seemed busy with something else, "But are we, hundreds of species within GESO, not sitting in this very room without suffocating to death, or being infected by each other's bacterial colonies, or being blinded by the lighting, and so on? Clearly, the technology to allow us to co-exist in a single ship does exist, and more to the point it would not need to be staffed by multiple nations - each nation can contribute in a different way. One can provide staffing, true, and another will happen to provide FTL, or armour, communications, AI, or sub-FTL, or even the shipyards to build it, for tax credit. If they cannot, because others are superior or because they are unwilling to share that technology then they are already contributing financially through taxation."

Excidium Planetis wrote:"Only because we wear Self Contained Environment suits." Colonel Aisling remarks, gesturing to the full-body air tight suit that Excidians wear for diplomatic meetings, business meetings, or situations which may result in exposure to foreign pathogens.

"Surely you don't expect us to wear these things for the entire duration of a ship's tour of duty?"


"Admittedly, I am not one to weigh in on Far'Ha's observation, as medical nanites to take care of potential alien infections and help to adapt to environments other than our own are common among those that go outside of the Sovereignty's borders." Ambassador Birushana admits. "But you all do raise valid points. As I expressed earlier, I think we should form a committee of interested parties and have our best experts in the fields of military technology and ship construction come together to work out a functional concept of this flagship."

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Postby Taigawa » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:44 pm

Rawhein wrote:"I admit to not being a military person" Far'Ha replied as the NRE delegate seemed busy with something else, "But are we, hundreds of species within GESO, not sitting in this very room without suffocating to death, or being infected by each other's bacterial colonies, or being blinded by the lighting, and so on? Clearly, the technology to allow us to co-exist in a single ship does exist, and more to the point it would not need to be staffed by multiple nations - each nation can contribute in a different way. One can provide staffing, true, and another will happen to provide FTL, or armour, communications, AI, or sub-FTL, or even the shipyards to build it, for tax credit. If they cannot, because others are superior or because they are unwilling to share that technology then they are already contributing financially through taxation."


"You would be proud to know that the Ecumene has armor that makes one immune to all known disease-carrying organisms. Such has been the case before I was sent here to represent my nation to the GESO. My councilor armor was reverse-engineered from the Forerunner armor suits recovered from the ruins on Thessia and elsewhere throughout our territory, and has such properties. As for this flagship, the Imperial Navy would be almost proud to contribute our weapons technology to the cause, with a few exceptions. You are disallowed access to our weapons of mass destruction as per Imperial Edict 137-5A as passed by the Imperial Council on April 5th 2167."
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Postby RawHein » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:59 pm

Houseidou wrote:"Admittedly, I am not one to weigh in on Far'Ha's observation, as medical nanites to take care of potential alien infections and help to adapt to environments other than our own are common among those that go outside of the Sovereignty's borders." Ambassador Birushana admits. "But you all do raise valid points. As I expressed earlier, I think we should form a committee of interested parties and have our best experts in the fields of military technology and ship construction come together to work out a functional concept of this flagship."


"You're correct", Far'Ha conceded. "Micromanaging this issue, as laymen, is unproductive. Can we at least agree to create a project group to solicit technologies from member nations, offering as I said taxation credit in exchange? I certainly don't think that the issues raised by Delegate Causer and Triumvirii Aisling are fatal - at worst, we would have to design most of the ship for ox-ni species and keep certain compartments segregated for visitors. That said, I'm sure Secretariat Silver will want to add her own opinion as well when she finishes researching the Basaka threat."

"I will also add that my personal ambition -indeed part of the reason I introduced the taxes in the first place- is for this to be the start of the new GRF fleet. If we can find and integrate so many technologies into a flagship, we can work our way down into battleships, cruisers, carriers, destroyers, and so on, until we have a fully independent navy that can secure our borders, without reliance on donations."
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Postby Houseidou » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:33 pm

Rawhein wrote:
Houseidou wrote:"Admittedly, I am not one to weigh in on Far'Ha's observation, as medical nanites to take care of potential alien infections and help to adapt to environments other than our own are common among those that go outside of the Sovereignty's borders." Ambassador Birushana admits. "But you all do raise valid points. As I expressed earlier, I think we should form a committee of interested parties and have our best experts in the fields of military technology and ship construction come together to work out a functional concept of this flagship."


"You're correct", Far'Ha conceded. "Micromanaging this issue, as laymen, is unproductive. Can we at least agree to create a project group to solicit technologies from member nations, offering as I said taxation credit in exchange? I certainly don't think that the issues raised by Delegate Causer and Triumvirii Aisling are fatal - at worst, we would have to design most of the ship for ox-ni species and keep certain compartments segregated for visitors. That said, I'm sure Secretariat Silver will want to add her own opinion as well when she finishes researching the Basaka threat."

"I will also add that my personal ambition -indeed part of the reason I introduced the taxes in the first place- is for this to be the start of the new GRF fleet. If we can find and integrate so many technologies into a flagship, we can work our way down into battleships, cruisers, carriers, destroyers, and so on, until we have a fully independent navy that can secure our borders, without reliance on donations."


"On the contrary, Ambassador Far'Ha, we are more than happy to continue what we are doing regarding GESO's military activities." Natsume replied back to him. "The Divine Sovereignty needs more experience in combat. We were lucky to have been wrapping up a rebellion on one of our colonies when the Basaka attacked. Had we not had that initial military buildup, the damage would have been much more severe. My government wishes to continue lending ships, materiel, and most importantly personnel to aid in whatever mutual defense the other GESO members require. Speaking of aid, what else is on the docket?"

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Postby The Fedral Union » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:45 am

Counselor Branov as usual waited for the other delegates to finish their train of thought, as each side debated the merits of a joint effort to construct a flag ship for the GRF he found himself weighing each argument carefully, he combed through them as much as he could. He was of course neither an engineer, nor expert on how militarily effective something like this would be. Branov cleared his throat softly and took a stand acknowledging the delegates engage in the discussion around him with a respectful nod.

" I I may address the debate at hand, while I and by extension the Terran Alliance would support such a measure, we can all agree not all of us in this room are expert engineers. There fore I would support the creation of a think group made up of engineers as well as specialist from the defense secretariat, In addition I think it would a good idea that before we begin talking about who's technology will be where that we make sure through extensive studies who will and wont integrate well together.

From then on we can move to an open bidding session. There have been many valid points of note brought up here today regarding Orion, but I believe whole heatedly that experts from our respective polities could come together and solve any hurdles that might be presented.

I yield the floor"


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Postby RawHein » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:09 am

Coming into a new session early, SG Far'Ha pressed a warm towel to his face. His seat was already equipped with a heating pad, of course (one of the few comforts he could hide without showing vulnerability), but the towel felt nice. As a reptilian species hailing from a hot climate, the Raw'Hein weren't as capable as humanoids at regulating their internal temperature - even after a centuries-old expansion to 82% of Old Hein's landmass, most were uncomfortable in even temperate weather. Still, it couldn't last, and by the time the other delegates filed in the Secretary-General was reading through reports with the utmost appearance of professionalism.

"A quick rundown of previous topics before we begin...the time travel project using the UTA's new Aeon-class was shelved following arguments from Delegate Causer of Excidium, Ambassador Tal proposed a new Orion-class flagship for the GRF, and...Natsume of Housidou made a formal request for aid against the Basaka threat." He turned to a new page. "And first on the agenda is some news of progress from the Gamma/Delta border. The raiders that have been threatening shipping and refugees fleeing the Gata'ja have been identified as coming from a single source that has an organised, criminal monopoly over the region. Following our largely successful escort operations, captured fighters have revealed intelligence that, Secretariat Silver believes, identifies a coalition of many gangs and pirates, bolstered by paramilitary groups and syndicates that are, for obvious reasons, unwilling to submit to the refugee immigration process. For that reason, her defence policy is shifting to focus on intelligence gathering in addition to escort operations in the area."
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Postby RawHein » Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:24 pm

"And now, finally" Far'Ha announced, finishing up the success of the GSO Standardised Fasteners, Hole Sizes and Adhesives Act (passing by default with a single voter, something he'd decided to overlook), "I'm pleased to introduce the completion of the Orion project first proposed by Ambassador Tal of the New Roman Empire." It had been an energetic few years, with the Basaka becoming a drain on resources and pirate activity making un-escorted trips to Gamma nigh-impossible. Stocks were starting to waver, and if he didn't act soon he could let the economy slip into depression from the loss of trade. Hopefully, the new flagship could help to remedy that, even from the press attention.

"The GRF Unity is the first of its class, a product of international, multi-species cooperation - a fitting vessel to command the GRF. It's equipped with the very latest in weapons and defensive technology, provided by dozens of nations under our banner."

Far'Ha swiped over a flick-switch on his desk, and the room's screens lit up with the image. At a respectable seven-hundred metres long, the Unity filled it with missile tubes, shields, and the distinctly Terran look of a Hyper Phase Engine - sleek, almost aerodynamic lines punctuated with blisters and ribs.

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"A truly grand achievement for our organisation. As you may know, I've organised a press conference" -he saw some faces droop at the prospect, though his own eyes maintained their optimistic shine- "followed by a celebratory dinner on Talos." The faces perked back up at that one.
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Postby The Interstellar Federation » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:04 am

Vincent De Maser walked off his Presidential Starship and entered the General Assembly hall, finding his seat among thousands. He sipped a water as he recounted his notes and speeches on his data pad. He listened intently at the speeches by the other delegates and took notes accordingly. He shortly than raised his hand and stood up. "I would like to interject, honorable delegates. I am Vincent De Maser, President of the Interstellar Federation. I would like to to state that, in reference of the Basakan threat, the Interstellar Federation will openly support all nations in this Assembly. I believe with only inter-governmental and international cooperation, will this situation be solved. No single army can take them on." "The Interstellar Space Force will join and assist any GESO fleet in combat with the Basakans." He then projected an image onto the large board of the Assembly.
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Postby New Roman Empire » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:41 am

Vice Secretary General Tal was sitting there and was glad the project had gone so well, but there was a proposal the Terliran Empire has been having in the works for a while now and it was time for the GESO Assembly to learn about it. "Fellow GESO members I have brought a proposal to the floor, the Empire has been working on this for the last several months and we believe now is the time to share it. So I proposal the Accord of Uncharted Worlds."

Accord of Uncharted Worlds

Due to the vastness of the galaxy and the recent discovery of several uninhabited or unclaimed planets. There has been a history of abuse to unclaimed planets with natives and without natives, plant life is destroyed as well as people. We the Terliran Empire write this document in the hopes other GESO nations will follow the Accord of Uncharted Worlds (AUW). In time we hope this document will be a governing document upon finding a new planet in which the civilized galaxy will no doubt find.

Article I Defining an Unclaimed and Uninhabited World

An unclaimed world is defined as a world that no space-faring empire has laid claim to and that no civilization above the ability to send even the simplest of craft into space whether it be a satellite or a shuttle. If any nation on that planet has the technology, they are deemed to be the claimer of that world.

An Uninhabited world is a world void of both sentient life and planet life. Upon finding a planet void of life, species are to scan the world for any form of life form. If the test shows no life on the globe, then you are free to do with the world as you will.

Article II Code of Conduct Upon Finding a new culture on a Planet

Upon establishing contact with a new group of people who are not of the same technology level. There are precautions with must be taken to ensure the safety of both cultures. Firstly any teams going to the surface of the planet should wear bio suits till they can accurately determine if the globe has safe air and to minimize disease transfer to a new culture. Realizing the transfer of disease can be deadly to both groups of people.

The second thing that is to happen is ground teams should carry minimal weapons; this is to ensure technology contamination is as little as possible. The more contamination there is in the culture, the more they will go away from their lifestyle and attempt to recreate the weapons and technology they see which could lead to a disaster be it a Weapon of Mass Destruction or a chemical weapon. Also in the case of hostile aggression, this is to limit the technology they would gain from killing or capturing members of a crew.

Thirdly, There is to be no information exchange on the whole galaxy. Only give the people information about their star system. We do not want opposite factions to be attracted to the planet once a group leaves, and they are attempting to contact the galaxy. Pirates and slavers are to be shot on sight if they enter the system while you are there. But that does not mean you can not obtain information about them

Article III Enforcement

Along with this the creation of the Board of Worlds (BoW) shall be formed by this Accord. They will have the power to charge powers with breaking any part of this Accord. They are also responsible for ensuring laws are kept up to date as well introduce new legislation. But their proposal will be voted on by the GESO Assembly and voted on by members.

Within BoW there shall be the frontier patrol in which ships will patrol the area looking for new planets and ships that find a new world shall be required to send a message to the BoW. They will, in turn, keep an eye on the situation and only get involved when violations occur. In which case, a record shall be maintained and brought up to trial. Upon a breach of the Accord, ships shall be sent to oversee the arrest and the officers involved shall be charged with crimes against the sentient life on the planet and dealt with accordingly.

Article IV Domain of Authority of BoW

Upon the passing of the accord, this is established within GESO territory; each member state shall take a vote upon it. They shall be recognized an extension to the GESO funded agencies such as the SIU for example. They shall receive a budget in which they may use to hire agents or to obtain ships to perform their duties. They are entitled to arrest those who are found breaking the Accord in GESO territory and along the frontier region of space.

Any arrest must be detailed along with evidence to prove the accused have broken the accord. Any arrest without enough evidence will be declared invalid and the accused shall be free of charges and may continue assigned duties previously. The arresting officer shall then be charged for falsely filing a report and failure to complete his job.

The officer will face various consequences depending on how severe the charge of falsifying a report. Dismissal of the officer, the BoW Board Magisters have full right to punish the agent how they see fit. If they believe it to be an honest mistake, they may dismiss the charges. The BoW run their court which is to be yet determined and shall have their containment facilities.

Article VI BoW Court System

The BoW court system is comprised of five Magisters; they shall oversee the court and ensure that it moves along smoothly. The Magisters shall serve for life and will continue to do so unless health or they are found to be in violation of the Accord. The Magisters may call a court session if they have evidence to support a trial. They are also tasked ensuring the new laws passed do not violate the past amendments to the Accord.

The Magisters have the final ruling on a case within BoW; only another Magister may question the decision of another Magister or by a petition to the Magisters. Each case will be filed and kept in a database that shall be open to the public at any time.

The Violator has the right at any time request a lawyer of their choosing to represent them. But the Magisters have the right to provide a lawyer for the accused if he will not choose one himself. Each lawyer is certified in interspecies law to be eligible. At which point the trial may commence, once all evidence is brought forth and debated among the magisters and listening to the accused statement. The magisters will retire for a period no longer than two hours. Upon returning, they shall give their verdict.

Article VII BoW Navy

The BoW shall at no time have a naval force of fully supplied warships. Any class of warship is to be stripped of most of its weapons and to be outfitted with equipment to allow a defense but not to engage in acts of war. Any ship found armed for war shall be sent to a dry dock and the agent(s) on the ship shall be subjected to arrest and will be questioned regarding their ship.

The Navy shall not exceed the use of twenty thousand ships, upon reaching that number older ships will be decommissioned to allow room for new ships to take their place. Upon returning a ship, it is to be scrapped and sold off in pieces. The computers will be properly scrubbed by BoW Personnel with the required clearance.

As they are an agency, they are not permitted to have Weapons of Mass Destruction onboard their ship. Upon finding such a weapon, they will be stripped of their clearance and will be arrested. From there they will be tried at a BoW court and then sent to a GESO court in which the final judgment shall be cast.

Article VIII Banning of Uplifting Cultures

Uplifting a culture at times has been beneficial, but there have. But there are times in which cultures have been destroyed by this action. Therefore we should not uplift a nation to a spacefaring age before they naturally get there with their technology. This Accord, therefore, makes it illegal to uplift cultures. The ban is for the safety of the culture and the safety of the galaxy. There is no telling what that race will do once they have been uplifted.

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Postby Pordlandia » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:03 am

The Pordish delegation gives a number of eyebrow furrows, all done in somewhat eerie unison.

As it stands now, we already have an organization whose purpose is to help and protect the sentients of the Milky Way Galaxy - the GRF. There is little reason to add superfluous organizations to GESO. Thus additions serve only to bloat the system and fill it with excess waste.

The Pordish representative finishes. The group chats amongst themselves for a minute or two before they continue addressing the gathered..; the Hunter brings up Article IV on a display for all to see..:

Article IV Domain of Authority of BoW

Upon the passing of the accord, this is established within GESO territory; each member state shall take a vote upon it. They shall be recognized an extension to the GESO funded agencies such as the SIU for example. They shall receive a budget in which they may use to hire agents or to obtain ships to perform their duties. They are entitled to arrest those who are found breaking the Accord in GESO territory and along the frontier region of space.

Any arrest must be detailed along with evidence to prove the accused have broken the accord. Any arrest without enough evidence will be declared invalid and the accused shall be free of charges and may continue assigned duties previously. The arresting officer shall then be charged for falsely filing a report and failure to complete his job.

The officer will face various consequences depending on how severe the charge of falsifying a report. Dismissal of the officer, the BoW Board Magisters have full right to punish the agent how they see fit. If they believe it to be an honest mistake, they may dismiss the charges. The BoW run their court which is to be yet determined and shall have their containment facilities.


This. He states matter-of-factly Is in violation of national sovereignty and, perhaps more egregiously, is in direct conflict with the Barbarossa Doctrine. No foreign agency will be given clearance to police our lands and this is not a position open to debate. Should this bill come to pass, do not expect to be able to enforce its measures.

Another pause.

Beyond this there are numerous issues with this document:

Article I implies races who have not yet achieved spacefaring capabilities do not own the planets they live on;
Articles II and VIII contradict this;
Article III details expensive and expansive patrolling operations across the entire edge of GESO space. This is an impossibility for the majority of nations in GESO.
Articles III, IV, and VI trample national sovereignty and are only enforced through arms;
Article VII discusses vague definitions of defensive and offensive weapon systems for warships, a delineation nearly impossible to clearly pin down;
Article VIII assumes newly found cultures are hostile in a guilty-until-proven-innocent manner; also details individual foreign policy for GESO member-states.


Once again, a pause.

These are but a few of our grievances with this rather terrible piece of legislation. The Pordish delegation will be voting nay - that is, in opposition to - this bill.
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Postby The Fedral Union » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:26 am

Councilmen Branov furrowed an eye ridge, he collectively and thoughtfully pondered a response to this proposal and after a moment and a sip from a cup of water he cleared his throat. He respectfully stood and addressed the floor.

"While the proposal for this Accord of Uncharted Worlds has some good aspects to it, I am slightly concerned with several things.

I would like to ask why would this need its own judicial system when the GESO already has a court established, why would it need its own police force when the GRF exists. These seem to be a bit unnecessary and would I think not be a wise course of action as it would detract resources from the GRF as well as other programs that we have in the charter.

Furthermore, I don't think the Terran Government would be taken with the idea of having to spend more resources to bolster up if I may be blunt, something that is akin to a police force for the galaxy. Fellow sapients I see the good intentions and merits behind this, but we have many other things that require our attention. The blight in the delta to contend with. We have the expansion of powers and the birth of new unstable ones who have ambitions of empire themselves.

We've got privateer groups running amok, and we are still dealing with the fall out of the civil conflict in hobbeetia.. Do you believe we can afford to shift resources from defending our Allies to this program? I should remind you that several GESO members are on the front lines of much of what I mentioned. There fore The Terran Alliance at this moment feels it would be too premature to vote aye for this measure; but I do suggest we discuss it in detail and see what parts of the vice secretaries proposal could be used to expand on our already existing divisions. Our vote for the matter in this form will be a Nay" I yield the floor.


Branov sat down, he spoke in a polite and casual tone nodding to the Vice secretary.
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Postby New Roman Empire » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:54 am

Vice Secretary Tal glared at the mentioned of trampling sovereignty. "If you want to turn this into a debate about sovereignty, then let's do so. GESO has banned the slave trade which is a vital part of our culture, so I would advise this not to turn into sovereignty debate cause I will pull examples from the past if I must. Now as to the court, frankly from the reading of the court system its weak and flawed as the court in this has been clearly defined and has its checks and balances. Thus we are not staying ore flt nations have no right, if they are on the planet you simply can not touch them."
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Postby The Fedral Union » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:06 am

Branov interjected after the vice secretary sat down, he folded his hands behind him and spoke calmly.

"I believe that debate should be addressed at another time, the fact remains that this is resource extensive, it would drain funds, material, personnel away from more vital areas that at the moment a much higher priority. Many GESO nations do not have a high GDP/resource to defense spending ratio. The Terran Alliance , Pordlandia , and of course some others here spend a significant amount on defense. Even with that, we will loose the ability to array our resources toward new threats if this proposal as is, comes in to effect."
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Postby Houseidou » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:13 am

Ambassador Birushana of the Divine Sovereignty speaks up as well. "The Divine Sovereignty of Houseidou, after some deliberation, has to agree with our Pordish and Terran compatriots. While the spirit of the Accord is sound, not only does it seem to not take into consideration more extraordinary circumstances, but it also goes against everything this organization stands for. To use ourselves as an example of the former, our two first contact events were both outside of what this article calls for. The first, the Sha'ana Re'e, are a species of sapient mole-like creatures with a eusocial caste system on a metal-poor world. Despite that setback, they developed complex underground cities utilizing plastics and organic solutions to bring their technological level to somewhere on par with Victorian England on Earth. And there is very little surface indication of their existence. We settled a colony on their world, but only found out later that they had already settled it. We turned the colony into an enclave to better understand and communicate with the Sha'ana Re'e, as they have no unified planetary government. They instead have hundreds, if not thousands, of city-state-based alliance networks competing against each other. The second outstanding instance is the Basaka. While I feel no need to elaborate on how they are dangerous, I will mention that their programming has them attack any world their parameters determine is habitable and make it uninhabitable. How do you prosecute and charge something that has no intelligence of its own, only a series of logic gates?"
"The other matter is the creation of an extranational police force dedicated to protecting these worlds. As the Pordish delegation has elaborated on, this violates the ideas of national sovereignty. Despite what the media may think international police groups do, what they actually are are liaisons between various governmental law enforcement agencies, with the closest thing to a true officer of that organization being a member of one nation's law enforcement sending a specialist to help another's. And the Terran Alliance's point of requiring even more resources is quite valid. I could go on, but I feel the more urgent issues I wish to address have been brought up, so I will vote Nay." She concedes the floor to the next speaker.
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Postby Pordlandia » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:14 am

New Roman Empire wrote:Vice Secretary Tal glared at the mentioned of trampling sovereignty. "If you want to turn this into a debate about sovereignty, then let's do so. GESO has banned the slave trade which is a vital part of our culture, so I would advise this not to turn into sovereignty debate cause I will pull examples from the past if I must. Now as to the court, frankly from the reading of the court system its weak and flawed as the court in this has been clearly defined and has its checks and balances. Thus we are not staying ore flt nations have no right, if they are on the planet you simply can not touch them."


The Pordish delegation sat in silence as they listened to Tal.

There is no sovereignty debate, the Hunter replies. You were not forced to join GESO, nor are you obligated to remain if such an integral part of your culture has been usurped. He stops to let the gravity sink in. But that is neither here nor now. We are not here to discuss these other issues. We are here to discuss your proposed legislation and its potential issues - quite a few of which we have brought before the gathered.

The Hunter stops.
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Postby The Abraski » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:42 pm

The arrival of the newest additions to The Galactic Economic and Security Organization had been a rather quiet one for some time now, the Abraski peoples preferring to watch from afar and learn of their new neighbours beyond what little communications and treaties had already sprung up in the wake of discovering the Galactic Organisation. With an invitation to the General Assembly and the offering of a seat on the council, an extremely auspicious moment for the Abraski people, they had jumped to the chance of gaining more insight and possibly adding what insight they had to the betterment of species in general.

Grand-Seeress Nemetu Ath-awtin and Honourary Consul Mayaig Ia-tin had been selected as the delegates, representing not only Grand Admiral Pydin Dar-gha but also all of the Abraski people as a nation. The first to enter the cavernous room, the voices of the other delegates in heated discussion echoing around the hallowed halls, was Grand-Seeress Nemetu. Her pristine sheer white robe draped in opaque dark greens flowing much like designed, to give her an almost ethereal appearance and to accommodate her graceful movement, a golden headdress engraved like a sun flanked her head, looking much like a Halo, it was no doubt she was some sort of religious figurehead. Her milky white eyes drifting across those present as she made her way, unaided towards the Abraski table.
Her companion entered soon after and with far less flare, donning a sleeveless green vest that contrasted the deep brown scales that covered his exposed arms, three gold armlets engraved with ornate symbols of suns and planets donned both biceps and his lower was covered in drab grey formalwear, the only noticeable attire that would not be seen as typically ‘terran’ was a segmented gold open-face skirt waist to knee and a set of gold chains and trinkets along the length of his dark tendrils.

Mayaig barely looked up from the twin-screen datapad he held across his forearm as he seated himself beside the Grand-Seeress. Once there was a lull in the debate however, Mayaig rose from his seat, transferring the datapad’s screen to a holographic display on the table, so Nemetu could read up on what was being discussed.

“If you would allow me to interject, I am Honourary Consul Mayaig Ia-tin, this to my left is Grand-Seeress Nemetu Ath-awtin, we are delegates of the Abraski Confederacy. Upon inspecting the presented Accord of Uncharted Worlds, it is clear that goodwill was meant by the presented actions and I feel, as I’m sure some of my fellow delegates here if I may be so bold to assume, that some minor rectifying by the global body of delegates could amend this Accord for the betterment of not only ourselves, but also those affected by such a vote and decision.” Mayaig spoke clear, or as clear as the rebreather around his face could provide, each word having a strange monotone drone to it, like he was speaking through a synthetic aid than his actual biological voice.

To his left, the white-clad Nemetu placed a delicate clawed hand to Mayaig’s arm and gestured for him to sit, before standing herself and folding her hands at her front.
“As Honourary Consul Mayaig has said, I strongly believe we can all come to a conclusion and agreement that would bring us all into a greater union and harmony. Though I wish to raise a worry…” She spoke, her voice a softer version of the monotone metallic drone her companion had used, the gold and silver rebreather across her own mouth much the same, if not a little more flashy. “... That this Accord of Uncharted Worlds, not only seeks to deliberately upset the balance of a people unknowing to us, but also wishes to trespass upon the sanctity of a races or peoples tender naivety, their natural expansion and growth, that all of the Star’s children should be allowed to embrace. For we are all of one mould, all are born with the Stars dust and we must be wary not to trespass upon those whom their light guides towards the universe.” She stated, bowing her head and lowering herself to seat back upon the chair “The Abraski yield the floor.” Mayaig glanced across at the delegates present, he sincerely hoped they had not crossed any boundaries, once more he went about tapping at his datapad.
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Postby RawHein » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:33 pm

Finishing his own read, Far'Ha sighed. "I can see the reasoning behind these Accords, and I can agree with the spirit they're presenting - that of not interfering with civilisations that are not capable of interacting with us. However, I don't believe it's within our remit to specify contact attempts - we're merely a trading/security alliance. Perhaps a general ban on slavery (which is long overdue) and a policy of non-communication to worlds without suitably advanced spaceflight or previous interstellar contact, while recognising their sovereignty and protection from exploitation, would do instead?"
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Postby The Fedral Union » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:40 pm

Branov stood up, he was perplexed.

"If I am not mistaken, GESO has already banned slavery at least in the original charter. Was there a simple oversight in wording? I have copies of the last inceptions of the charter. Mr secretary general are you suggesting that the precedents set before hand by the GESO and its founding members are somehow invalid because of our new charter and the failure to recognize that older regulations should have been included?"
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Postby The Fedral Union » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:13 am

Branov cleared his voice and took the floor he looked across the council chambers those eyes of his gazing in to each one of the delegates present.

"My fellow council members, I would like to put to the floor an accord that I believe is in the best interest of all of us, and in the best interest of other powers in the galaxy. Several powers have already voiced their support for it outside of these chambers.

Consider this before I propose it, many of us have suffered or are suffering from the ravages of weapons of mass destruction, its is unlikely we'll be able through any means rid the galaxy of strategic weapons. We a rightfully maintain the sovereign right to keep our deterrence; the Terran Alliance does and will many of you will.

What my proposal will seek to do will be to make sure none of these weapons fall in to the wrong hands by increasing cooperation between states. It also seeks to reduce the risk of their use through mediation between an impartial body. I think it not only necessary to do this, it is the morally right thing to do. "


Branov tapped a hidden contact on his desk and the accords came before the General Assembly, it already had several signatures.

Preamble


We the sapient beings of the galaxy have gathered here today to satisfy our mutual interest in cooperating to secure our most destructive weapons, so that we may preserve the sanctity of generations present and future from the specter of unimaginable destruction. Here in common cause are the signatories of the representative polities to the Strategic Arms Security Treaty, who in the spirit of mutual friendship and determination take one more step for peace to preserve civitas galactica. To this effect we pledge ourselves to the following treaty





Article 1a:

Recognizing the principle fact that many powers within the galaxy have attained or are attempting to attain strategic weapons with the capability to disrupt the stellar processes though one method or another, all signatory powers to this treaty will henceforth pledge themselves to facilitating the security of their stockpiles.

Article 1b:

This treaty shall seek through mutual cooperation by signatory parties, to minimize the availability of strategic weapons to states or organizations that may operate with the intent to utilize them in acts of terror, acts of unwarranted aggression, or to stellar polities that practice state sponsored terrorism. This article need not apply to strategic weapons sharing agreements between allied states.

Article 2a:

This Treaty shall establish a Strategic Arms Conclave, dedicated to addressing the concerns of signatory powers. This Conclave shall facilitate the exchange of ideas and discussions in order to strengthen each respective parties safeguards.

Article 2b:

The Conclave shall additionally function in a manner that will assist in bilateral or multilateral mediation and agreements in regards to strategic weapons should the need arise. Powers may so choose to utilize the Conclave as a method of settling disputes resulting from disagreements on how to best facilitate the effectiveness of this treaty.

Article 3a:

In the event a strategic munion cannot be accounted for after an investigation by local authorities within polity, this accord shall endeavour to establish a direct line of communication to each signatory in order to notify those subject to this document of a possible threat. Thus this treaty recognizes the importance of cooperation in the event of such situation.

Article 3b:

This treaty, will bind members to forgo the production and use of nanomachine or vonuman machine based weapons of mass destruction, recognizing their potential for great destruction. This treaty also recognizes that the risk of accidental containment breach of these weapons are of great risk to any powers. Therefore signatories of this treaty shall comply with the protocol of destruction laid out in this accord of all current nanowar stockpiles.

Article 4a:

This treaty shall implore its members to bring forth to the conclave cases where situations between non party states have degraded sufficiently that the use of strategic arms by those parties is of high probability. This is to ensure minimized risk of the use of weapons of mass destruction.
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