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[Vault-Tec Headquarters]

The family members that are snogging each other and fucking.

I don't know about you, but I'd feel pretty disgusting if I fucked my mother. If you wouldn't, then I believe you should see a doctor.

And why is that? That your "icky" feelings arise with such thoughts doesn't mean it does with everybody nor does it mean that those who do not experience that are sick. They just love somebody, nothing more and nothing else. If you cannot handle that i believe you would be the one who needs to see a doctor.

That means they've a mental disorder. Literally. An Oedipus Complex is a mental disorder, which requires you need to see a doctor. If you're actively attempting to stick your cock within your mother, there's likely something wrong with you, mate.

[Diopolis]

No.
Of course, I have no illusions on this matter. Incest will be legalized, probably through judicial fiat, and anyone who opposes it will be said to be too interested in incest, if you know what I mean. The case will probably originate in Texas, almost certainly over a law banning cousin marriage. Soon businesses will be boycotted and employees fired for expressing opposition to the case.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

2&3 - like I pointed out earlier, this argument falls apart because you have things like stepson-stepmom and adopted child - adopting parent relationships. Incest doesn't only involve the genetic, it involves the political.

No, it doesn't fall apart. If incest is legal, there is the possibility of sibling/parent/child relationships. These relationships will result in increased risk of genetic diseases in the offspring. Simple genetics says incest is bad for the genetic health of a population. It's obvious governments should adopt the same stance.

That doesn't mean they happen as often though.

When we say sex between familials being incest, we men any diplomatic as well as genetic relationships. So for instance, under your argument, sex and marriage between step-siblings should not be illegal, neither between stepchild and stepparent.

[Galloism]

Between siblings I see no problem, but consent when dealing with parent child is...harder to determine due to power dynamics. Even adults would still have that power dynamic.

Honestly, even among siblings, I would be worried about power dynamics.

[Vault-Tec Headquarters]

No.
Of course, I have no illusions on this matter. Incest will be legalized, probably through judicial fiat, and anyone who opposes it will be said to be too interested in incest, if you know what I mean. The case will probably originate in Texas, almost certainly over a law banning cousin marriage. Soon businesses will be boycotted and employees fired for expressing opposition to the case.

>Lives in Texas

>Triggered

[Nulukkizdin]

And why is that? That your "icky" feelings arise with such thoughts doesn't mean it does with everybody nor does it mean that those who do not experience that are sick. They just love somebody, nothing more and nothing else. If you cannot handle that i believe you would be the one who needs to see a doctor.

That means they've a mental disorder. Literally. An Oedipus Complex is a mental disorder, which requires you need to see a doctor. If you're actively attempting to stick your cock within your mother, there's likely something wrong with you, mate.

Just like gay people had mental disorders back in the day right? Because you know, if you want to stick your dick into another guy there's something wrong with you... What a logic was that and what a logic is this...

[Nulukkizdin]

No.
Of course, I have no illusions on this matter. Incest will be legalized, probably through judicial fiat, and anyone who opposes it will be said to be too interested in incest, if you know what I mean. The case will probably originate in Texas, almost certainly over a law banning cousin marriage. Soon businesses will be boycotted and employees fired for expressing opposition to the case.

You do realize that incest is legal in many nations already right? And that it gives close to zero problems right?

[Hakons]

No, it doesn't fall apart. If incest is legal, there is the possibility of sibling/parent/child relationships. These relationships will result in increased risk of genetic diseases in the offspring. Simple genetics says incest is bad for the genetic health of a population. It's obvious governments should adopt the same stance.

That doesn't mean they happen as often though.

When we say sex between familials being incest, we men any diplomatic as well as genetic relationships. So for instance, under your argument, sex and marriage between step-siblings should not be illegal, neither between stepchild and stepparent.

True, though I would argue having sex with a genetically unrelated sibling/parent/child is still morally and socially wrong. But this is NSG! Who cares about morals! Legalize all the things!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No.
Of course, I have no illusions on this matter. Incest will be legalized, probably through judicial fiat, and anyone who opposes it will be said to be too interested in incest, if you know what I mean. The case will probably originate in Texas, almost certainly over a law banning cousin marriage. Soon businesses will be boycotted and employees fired for expressing opposition to the case.

You do realize that incest is legal in many naitons already right?

Depends in which nations and to what degree.

[Great Sofannia]

And why is that? That your "icky" feelings arise with such thoughts doesn't mean it does with everybody nor does it mean that those who do not experience that are sick. They just love somebody, nothing more and nothing else. If you cannot handle that i believe you would be the one who needs to see a doctor.

That means they've a mental disorder. Literally. An Oedipus Complex is a mental disorder, which requires you need to see a doctor. If you're actively attempting to stick your cock within your mother, there's likely something wrong with you, mate.

Did't Freud make that up when working with nutbags?

No.
Of course, I have no illusions on this matter. Incest will be legalized, probably through judicial fiat, and anyone who opposes it will be said to be too interested in incest, if you know what I mean. The case will probably originate in Texas, almost certainly over a law banning cousin marriage. Soon businesses will be boycotted and employees fired for expressing opposition to the case.

Well, there's a future for you.

[Ostroeuropa]

Between siblings I see no problem, but consent when dealing with parent child is...harder to determine due to power dynamics. Even adults would still have that power dynamic.

Honestly, even among siblings, I would be worried about power dynamics.

Relationships will always have disparate power dynamics I suspect.
Even the most healthy relationships do, especially in a culture with sexism effecting desirability of the partners.

Part of disparate power dynamics is dispensability, economics, etc.

I pride myself on having a particularly open and communicative relationship right now with a roughly equal balance of power, but there's little point in denying that economics does play a role too and we've merely mitigated the social and sexist axis. (I wouldn't say we've eliminated them, we're only human. We try though.)

Siblings have a social power difference, but it's only one axis. It's an important one, but not enough to say all such relationships are worth more scrutiny than others I suspect.

I'd wager the difference between working and upper class is far more impactful, for instance.

[Great Sofannia]

Honestly, even among siblings, I would be worried about power dynamics.

Relationships will always have disparate power dynamics I suspect.
Even the most healthy relationships do, especially in a culture with sexism effecting desirability of the partners.

Part of disparate power dynamics is dispensability, economics, etc.

I pride myself on having a particularly open and communicative relationship right now with a roughly equal balance of power, but there's little point in denying that economics does play a role too and we've merely mitigated the social and sexist axis. (I wouldn't say we've eliminated them, we're only human. We try though.)

Siblings have a social power difference, but it's only one axis. It's an important one, but not enough to say all such relationships are worth more scrutiny than others I suspect.

I'd wager the difference between working and upper class is far more impactful, for instance.

For some reason I'm imagining a group calling for bans on marrying between socioeconomic groups.

[Benuty]

Sure do what you want in that regards, but for some reason people tend to have really strange fetishes when it comes to male twins or brothers having a relationship.

Like really what is it about that that makes people think of that stuff? I went too deep in Tumblr, and now I must scream!

[Neutraligon]

Between siblings I see no problem, but consent when dealing with parent child is...harder to determine due to power dynamics. Even adults would still have that power dynamic.

Honestly, even among siblings, I would be worried about power dynamics.

I think the power dynamic between adult siblings is little different then that between most adults.

[Benuty]

And why is that? That your "icky" feelings arise with such thoughts doesn't mean it does with everybody nor does it mean that those who do not experience that are sick. They just love somebody, nothing more and nothing else. If you cannot handle that i believe you would be the one who needs to see a doctor.

That means they've a mental disorder. Literally. An Oedipus Complex is a mental disorder, which requires you need to see a doctor. If you're actively attempting to stick your cock within your mother, there's likely something wrong with you, mate.

The Oedipus Complex isn't even a legitimately diagnosable disorder unless we start taking the Elektra complex serious too.

[Lamadia III]

Without trolling, I think a few people on this thread really need to go, take a cold shower, and have a look at themselves.
Incest is not right. Animals do not do it. We do not do it. It is disgusting- immoral, unnatural, not scientific. Eugh!

[Vault-Tec Headquarters]

That means they've a mental disorder. Literally. An Oedipus Complex is a mental disorder, which requires you need to see a doctor. If you're actively attempting to stick your cock within your mother, there's likely something wrong with you, mate.

Just like gay people had mental disorders back in the day right? Because you know, if you want to stick your dick into another guy there's something wrong with you... What a logic was that and what a logic is this...

Yes, but being homosexual hadn't been considered a mental disorder for thousands of years.


The Romans practiced homosexuality, they sure a shit did not practice incest.


Your mother is the person that birthed and raised you. Why in God's name would you want a child with the woman that gave birth to you? Why would you want to ruin your relationship with her like that?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Honestly, even among siblings, I would be worried about power dynamics.

I think the power dynamic between adult siblings is little different then that between most adults.

As someone who had a power struggle with my (former) oldest brother who is 12 years older than I: yes, it is, and it is disparaged because of habit.

[Vault-Tec Headquarters]

That means they've a mental disorder. Literally. An Oedipus Complex is a mental disorder, which requires you need to see a doctor. If you're actively attempting to stick your cock within your mother, there's likely something wrong with you, mate.

The Oedipus Complex isn't even a legitimately diagnosable disorder unless we start taking the Elektra complex serious too.

I didn't know the name for that, but I do support that as also being wrong.


Also, quick question. Do you guys think that "Daddy Kinks" rise from Elektra Complexes?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No.
Of course, I have no illusions on this matter. Incest will be legalized, probably through judicial fiat, and anyone who opposes it will be said to be too interested in incest, if you know what I mean. The case will probably originate in Texas, almost certainly over a law banning cousin marriage. Soon businesses will be boycotted and employees fired for expressing opposition to the case.

Incest is pretty rare to know who is doing it because it is so frowned upon by society.

So no case would go to court anyways. How?

[Mike the Progressive]

If I had a sister and she was hot, I'd probably bang her. Then again I have no siblings, so I don't really understand that relationship very well.

[Great Sofannia]

Without trolling, I think a few people on this thread really need to go, take a cold shower, and have a look at themselves.
Incest is not right. Animals do not do it. We do not do it. It is disgusting- immoral, unnatural, not scientific. Eugh!

I already did.
I would not bang my family members.
I don't see any reason to illegalize a consensual relationship because one of its' futures is undesirable for people.

[Benuty]

Without trolling, I think a few people on this thread really need to go, take a cold shower, and have a look at themselves.
Incest is not right. Animals do not do it. We do not do it. It is disgusting- immoral, unnatural, not scientific. Eugh!

I mean humans are animals, and typically incest is practiced in the animal kingdoms. Of course it really depends on the scenario, but on to the point about it being immoral. Zoroastrianism in many ways believe in sacred marriages of brothers, and sisters to symbolize the union between Zoroaster, and Ahura Mazda so it really depends on the culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest#History

[Great Sofannia]

The Oedipus Complex isn't even a legitimately diagnosable disorder unless we start taking the Elektra complex serious too.

I didn't know the name for that, but I do support that as also being wrong.


Also, quick question. Do you guys think that "Daddy Kinks" rise from Elektra Complexes?

What the hell is Daddy Kinks?

[Des-Bal]

Yes, but being homosexual hadn't been considered a mental disorder for thousands of years.


The Romans practiced homosexuality, they sure a shit did not practice incest.


Your mother is the person that birthed and raised you. Why in God's name would you want a child with the woman that gave birth to you? Why would you want to ruin your relationship with her like that?

Marrying your cousin was just a done thing until very recently.