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by Sandaoguo » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:03 am
Pierconium wrote:Glen-Rhodes wrote:No, Pierconium. The breakdown of Balder-TSP relations predates my first term as MoFA. In fact, other MoFAs seem to have had more issues than I did.
Balder and TSP just have never been compatible allies.
If that is the TSP point of view then it would seem that there is a systemic issue with your MoFAs since this action has apparently taken so long to be addressed.
by Alvalero » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:14 am
by Sandaoguo » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:21 am
Alvalero wrote:The action for TSP to cancel the treaty is in response to my decision to reject his application for ambassador status in Balder due to his known verbal attacks against the region. While I've personally had minimal arguments with Glen, allowing someone who is actively hostile towards us to be the main diplomat to our region is not something we are willing to do at this moment in time.
If TSP wants to cancel the treaty that is up to them.
by Alvalero » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:40 am
by Evil Wolf » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:43 am
Alvalero wrote:Hmm, so it was. My mistake.
Nice to know that you decided to notify gameplay before even darkening Balders door.
Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.
by Sandaoguo » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:19 am
Alvalero wrote:Hmm, so it was. My mistake.
Nice to know that you decided to notify gameplay before even darkening Balders door.
by Alvalero » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:09 pm
by Belschaft » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:28 pm
by Drop Your Pants » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:34 pm
Alvalero wrote:Nice to know that you decided to notify gameplay before even darkening Balders door.
by Evil Wolf » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:40 pm
Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.
by Sandaoguo » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:02 pm
Alvalero wrote:Sandaoguo wrote:Your Queen was notified. Doesn't seem like she passed the news along.
An attempt to contact the government of Balder(of which the monarchy is not) or a member of it should have at least been attempted and would have been possible by joining the forum. Alas this is not how events turned out so there is no point arguing over what should have been done.
Alvalero wrote:I harbour nothing against TSP for cancelling the treaty. Considering how long its been active without being updated shows that treaties should be updated every so often to ensure that it's relevant to both parties current state and that treaties should not be taken for granted otherwise they become pointless agreements.
by Solorni » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:26 pm
Sandaoguo wrote:Alvalero wrote:An attempt to contact the government of Balder(of which the monarchy is not) or a member of it should have at least been attempted and would have been possible by joining the forum. Alas this is not how events turned out so there is no point arguing over what should have been done.
I assumed the Queen of Balder would be active enough to relay a message to her government. Like I said before, though, your laws aren't publicly viewable, so it's quite literally impossible to know how the Queen fits into the structure of Balder's government. I don't make it a habit to register on forums of regions I don't belong to, but registration is required to view anything on your forums
by Glen-Rhodes » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:09 am
by Solorni » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:26 am
Glen-Rhodes wrote:I think you're capable of passing along a note, regardless of Balder's democratic or non-democratic status :-*
Furthermore, your message was actually discussed by Balder's ministers the day it was sent out.
by The Ghost of Festavo » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:37 pm
by Drop Your Pants » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:46 pm
Evil Wolf wrote:And more often than not in TSP. I remember when they canceled their treaty with Lone Wolves United. They had a closed doors Cabinet discussion, a more open Government discussion, and were 4/5ths done with the voting phase before notifying us that they were even considering breaking off the alliance, which the then Delegate did via a very short TG to me directly.
by Evil Wolf » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:57 pm
Drop Your Pants wrote:So they didn't post it in GP first? I'm confused about how that's similar to what just happened.
Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.
by Glen-Rhodes » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:27 pm
by Evil Wolf » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:41 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Because TSP is the only region ever in this game to post about diplomatic relations in its embassy thread...
Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.
by Glen-Rhodes » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:39 pm
by Solorni » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:10 pm
The Gameplay forum is where 80% of inter-regional politics happens among GCRs.
It's nobody's fault but his own if Balder's foreign minister was out of the loop.
Everybody has an opinion of me already, so I don't know why you're wasting your time.
Our democracy is stronger than ever, because we work through our disagreements and we don't resort to attacking people's personal lives to do it.
TSP is no longer an ally of Balder.
by Evil Wolf » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:23 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Rachel, Cormac, you, and other people irrelevant to TSP's future can continue to flail, to lob what they imagine are effective insults against me and against TSP. I've been playing this game for over 8 years now. Everybody has an opinion of me already, so I don't know why you're wasting your time. TSP doesn't need or want your opinions.
Glen-Rhodes wrote:TNI didn't notify us when they dissolved our treaty. They posted in Gameplay, then on our forums. No TGs came my way, to my recollection.
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Osiris just announced cutting (nonexistent) ties with us through the Gameplay forum. Definitely didn't get any TG, PM, IRC, or Discord notification.
Glen-Rhodes wrote:TSP is no longer an ally of Balder.
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Our democracy is stronger than ever, because we work through our disagreements [...]
Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.
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