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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:53 pm

Valaran wrote:
Milizewe wrote:I think the military bombed a police station now.



yeah police and military are apparently fighting in some areas; the police being at least partially loyal to AKP.

I assume the police are fighting a losing battle?
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Postby Great Nilfgaard » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:54 pm

Milizewe wrote:I think the military bombed a police station now.


Yes the police are erdogan loyalists it appears.

When both sides have access to armed factions, coups can get murky fast.
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Postby Nariterrr » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:54 pm

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Milizewe wrote:I think the military bombed a police station now.



yeah police and military are apparently fighting in some areas; the police being at least partially loyal to AKP.

The police have historically been loyal to the government.
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby Acarn » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:54 pm

Mizrad wrote:I don't know if this has already been brought up but, Erdogan and his group are the "bad guys" in this situation right? I'm just trying to figure this all out.

Erdogan is very authoritarian, and has been bringing islamism into turkey, which was previously a very secular state. He is trying to give the president lots of power. The military has a history of coups if it feels the government has overstepped its bounds. In this instance i support the military
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:54 pm

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I hope the military succeeds,and the coup is as bloodless as possible.

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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:54 pm

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fascist?

Isn`t that what we usually get after Military coups?


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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:55 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
fascist?

Isn`t that what we usually get after Military coups?

Not in Turkey.
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Postby Umars memeistan » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:55 pm

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Merizoc wrote:It's far too early to say that.

Coups don't tend to end well. Case in point, like every single coup in the past, what, 100 years?


not exactly most coups are usually very successful is 3 world countries and you know what turkey is next them

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:55 pm

Val Halla wrote:Apparently Erdogan has called for people to take to the streets. Kinda says it all.


I'd love to see the people take to the streets. And party.
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Postby Viuskore » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:55 pm

Reports that Air Force and Land Forces behind coup, head of turkish military executed and TRT taken over.
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Postby Valaran » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:56 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Valaran wrote:

yeah police and military are apparently fighting in some areas; the police being at least partially loyal to AKP.

I assume the police are fighting a losing battle?


Well, it depends on the numbers of troops involved in those battles, which in turn begs the question 'how much of the Turkish military is involved?'. As for effects, it looks like a good chunk of strategic areas in the top two cities are under military control, and yet the PM was able to make statement saying he was in power and the President (erdogan) is still free, as far as we know. Its hard to say who is 'winning', but the military have an edge in some areas, at least.

I've seen EU sources saying the coup is relatively well orhcestatred, but that means almost nothing
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:56 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Merizoc wrote:It's far too early to say that.

Coups don't tend to end well. Case in point, like every singl coup in the past, what, 100 years?

This is actually quite wrong.

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Postby Nariterrr » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:57 pm

Viuskore wrote:Reports that Air Force and Land Forces behind coup, head of turkish military executed and TRT taken over.

Seriously?
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby Calimera II » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:57 pm

People are demonstrating in Ankara.

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Postby Calimera II » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:58 pm

Nariterrr wrote:
Viuskore wrote:Reports that Air Force and Land Forces behind coup, head of turkish military executed and TRT taken over.

Seriously?

No

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:58 pm

Cnn is covering the trump selection of pence. Fucking morons.

Cnbc had a reporter from Turkey who basically said. I don't know what is going on. But lots of stuff is. Including planes going buy,
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:58 pm


Hmm, probably being used against the loyalist police forces.

Unless Turkish police has attack helicopters.
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Postby Valaran » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:58 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Merizoc wrote:It's far too early to say that.

Coups don't tend to end well. Case in point, like every singl coup in the past, what, 100 years?


uh, well no. Its a bit lazy to just generalise.
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Postby Nariterrr » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:58 pm

Calimera II wrote:People are demonstrating in Ankara.

On who's side?
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby Umars memeistan » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:58 pm

Nariterrr wrote:
Viuskore wrote:Reports that Air Force and Land Forces behind coup, head of turkish military executed and TRT taken over.

Seriously?


i'm surprise the navy was not the part of this

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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:58 pm

Valaran wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:I assume the police are fighting a losing battle?


Well, it depends on the numbers of troops involved in those battles, which in turn begs the question 'how much of the Turkish military is involved?'. As for effects, it looks like a good chunk of strategic areas in the top two cities are under military control, and yet the PM was able to make statement saying he was in power and the President (erdogan) is still free, as far as we know. Its hard to say who is 'winning', but the military have an edge in some areas, at least.

I've seen EU sources saying the coup is relatively well orhcestatred, but that means almost nothing

I read that the Land Force and Air Force were behind it, who executed the head of the military. I think it's led from the top.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:58 pm

Calimera II wrote:People are demonstrating in Ankara.

Pro coup or anti coup?

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Postby Puzikas » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:58 pm

It seems theyre fighting over the broadcast station for the state news agency
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The bridges over the Dardanelles look to have about a Company sized force protecting it
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Postby Valaran » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:59 pm

Umars memeistan wrote:
Nariterrr wrote:Seriously?


i'm surprise the navy was not the part of this



navy are known to be loyalist afaik
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