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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:04 pm


"When the framers of our Constitution considered the Second Amendment, they were talking about muskets."
Yeah, and also MOTHERFUCKING CANNONS.

I think I'm just going to make this my go-to response for this kind of mental laziness masquerading as a point. It'd probably be just as effective as actually pointing out the complete lack of reasoning (IE: it wouldn't be effective), while still keeping me sane.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:06 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:

"When the framers of our Constitution considered the Second Amendment, they were talking about muskets."
Yeah, and also MOTHERFUCKING CANNONS.

I think I'm just going to make this my go-to response for this kind of mental laziness masquerading as a point. It'd probably be just as effective as actually pointing out the complete lack of reasoning (IE: it wouldn't be effective), while still keeping me sane.


Fun fact, muzzle loading cannons aren't regulated.
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Occupied Deutschland wrote:

"When the framers of our Constitution considered the Second Amendment, they were talking about muskets."
Yeah, and also MOTHERFUCKING CANNONS.

I think I'm just going to make this my go-to response for this kind of mental laziness masquerading as a point. It'd probably be just as effective as actually pointing out the complete lack of reasoning (IE: it wouldn't be effective), while still keeping me sane.


Good idea.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:17 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:"When the framers of our Constitution considered the Second Amendment, they were talking about muskets."
Yeah, and also MOTHERFUCKING CANNONS.

I think I'm just going to make this my go-to response for this kind of mental laziness masquerading as a point. It'd probably be just as effective as actually pointing out the complete lack of reasoning (IE: it wouldn't be effective), while still keeping me sane.


Fun fact, muzzle loading cannons aren't regulated.

I would think they'd be classified as destructive devices, but I guess you can't call a lump of brass too heavy to hold a device so much as Andre the Giant's doorstop.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:22 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
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Fun fact, muzzle loading cannons aren't regulated.

I would think they'd be classified as destructive devices, but I guess you can't call a lump of brass too heavy to hold a device so much as Andre the Giant's doorstop.


I thought the same, but muzzle loaders are allowed pretty much no matter what. You just can't fire explosive shells.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:24 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:I would think they'd be classified as destructive devices, but I guess you can't call a lump of brass too heavy to hold a device so much as Andre the Giant's doorstop.


I thought the same, but muzzle loaders are allowed pretty much no matter what. You just can't fire explosive shells.


Of course that still leaves solid, grape and chain shot. 8)
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:27 pm

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I thought the same, but muzzle loaders are allowed pretty much no matter what. You just can't fire explosive shells.


Of course that still leaves solid, grape and chain shot. 8)


Giant shotguns sound like fun to me :p
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:28 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I thought the same, but muzzle loaders are allowed pretty much no matter what. You just can't fire explosive shells.


Of course that still leaves solid, grape and chain shot. 8)

And tableware.
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Of course that still leaves solid, grape and chain shot. 8)


Giant shotguns sound like fun to me :p

The giantest.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:31 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
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Giant shotguns sound like fun to me :p

The giantest.


Yuuuge even.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:34 pm

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Of course that still leaves solid, grape and chain shot. 8)


Giant shotguns sound like fun to me :p


True, but I would go with chain-shot personally. :twisted:
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The giantest.


Yuuuge even.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:40 pm

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Giant shotguns sound like fun to me :p


True, but I would go with chain-shot personally. :twisted:


I really wanna build one eventually. Gatling guns also aren't regulated as MG's.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:42 pm

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Big Jim P wrote:
True, but I would go with chain-shot personally. :twisted:


I really wanna build one eventually. Gatling guns also aren't regulated as MG's.

Really? I mean, they're not technically machine guns, but still. By "not regulated as machine guns", do you mean they have different but similarly restrictive regulations?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:47 pm

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I really wanna build one eventually. Gatling guns also aren't regulated as MG's.

Really? I mean, they're not technically machine guns, but still. By "not regulated as machine guns", do you mean they have different but similarly restrictive regulations?


They're just Title 1 firearms afaik. Federal law states machine guns are weapons that fire more than once with a single trigger function, there's all sorts of fun legal workarounds to that.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:49 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Really? I mean, they're not technically machine guns, but still. By "not regulated as machine guns", do you mean they have different but similarly restrictive regulations?


They're just Title 1 firearms afaik. Federal law states machine guns are weapons that fire more than once with a single trigger function, there's all sorts of fun legal workarounds to that.

I guess a gatling gun could technically be semiautomatic, since you have to manually engage the trigger function.

Would that make a rotary gun with a motor automatic though?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:55 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
They're just Title 1 firearms afaik. Federal law states machine guns are weapons that fire more than once with a single trigger function, there's all sorts of fun legal workarounds to that.

I guess a gatling gun could technically be semiautomatic, since you have to manually engage the trigger function.

Would that make a rotary gun with a motor automatic though?


Yes it would, motors would make it a machine gun.

I'm personally planning on creating a notLMG when I get my Class 7 and have the needed machinery for said stuff. I can make the base gun, create a new trigger pack that fires one round on trigger pull and one on release (thus not breaking MG laws) and attach a crank that fires 4 times per full rotation (it's manual action, therefore not breaking MG laws) for a combined 8 shots per full crank rotation while staying entirely legal and semi-auto.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:36 pm

This article sums it up nicely.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:52 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:"When the framers of our Constitution considered the Second Amendment, they were talking about muskets."
Yeah, and also MOTHERFUCKING CANNONS.

I think I'm just going to make this my go-to response for this kind of mental laziness masquerading as a point. It'd probably be just as effective as actually pointing out the complete lack of reasoning (IE: it wouldn't be effective), while still keeping me sane.


Fun fact, muzzle loading cannons aren't regulated.


That is so fucking cool. I need to get a cannon as soon as I live somewhere that I have room for it.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:09 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Fun fact, muzzle loading cannons aren't regulated.


That is so fucking cool. I need to get a cannon as soon as I live somewhere that I have room for it.


I'm right there with you, I really want to get one eventually.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:20 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
That is so fucking cool. I need to get a cannon as soon as I live somewhere that I have room for it.


I'm right there with you, I really want to get one eventually.


I live in an area that is too urban to actually fire one, and I'm not sure how the landlord would feel about it if I kept one in the yard for decoration.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:27 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
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I'm right there with you, I really want to get one eventually.


I live in an area that is too urban to actually fire one, and I'm not sure how the landlord would feel about it if I kept one in the yard for decoration.


What's he gonna do, complain? You'll have a friggin cannon :p
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:32 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I live in an area that is too urban to actually fire one, and I'm not sure how the landlord would feel about it if I kept one in the yard for decoration.


What's he gonna do, complain? You'll have a friggin cannon :p


I think the Commonwealth of Massachusetts might object if I fired it at my landlord.
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