by New Edom » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:47 pm
by Benuty » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:50 pm
by Liriena » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:58 pm
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by Pandeeria » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:58 pm
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Benuty » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:59 pm
Liriena wrote:As a whole? Several problems remain, some more damaging than others. Also, let's not forget that the West includes not only Europe and North America, but also Latin America, where machismo is, sadly, alive and well.
Compared to other regions of the world? The injustices faced by most women in the West may not be as profound, widespread and horrifying as those faced elsewhere. Still, injustices remain. Let's not forget, also, that women include trans women, and they in particular certainly do face an awful lot of harrassment, abuse, assault and marginalization on a regular basis in the West.
by Liriena » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:59 pm
Benuty wrote:Out of all the people one could choose I just cannot see Emma Watson as a serious person.
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by Souseiseki » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:59 pm
by Liriena » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:02 pm
Benuty wrote:Liriena wrote:As a whole? Several problems remain, some more damaging than others. Also, let's not forget that the West includes not only Europe and North America, but also Latin America, where machismo is, sadly, alive and well.
Compared to other regions of the world? The injustices faced by most women in the West may not be as profound, widespread and horrifying as those faced elsewhere. Still, injustices remain. Let's not forget, also, that women include trans women, and they in particular certainly do face an awful lot of harrassment, abuse, assault and marginalization on a regular basis in the West.
Eww why did you have to remind me trans exclusionary feminists still existed?
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by Liriena » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:03 pm
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by The first Galactic Republic » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:04 pm
by The first Galactic Republic » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:05 pm
Benuty wrote:Out of all the people one could choose I just cannot see Emma Watson as a serious person.
by Minzerland » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:05 pm
by Spiffier » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:07 pm
by Liriena » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:08 pm
The first Galactic Republic wrote:Define oppressed?
Because if the implication is that some system is oppressing them, I don't believe that. But yes there are problems unique to women in the west.
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by Costa Fierro » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:09 pm
by Liriena » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:10 pm
Costa Fierro wrote:No. There isn't any institutional or social oppression. However, there is discrimination and this discrimination affects both men and women in different ways.
Anyone who thinks women are oppressed should spend some time in Saudi Arabia. That is true oppression.
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by The first Galactic Republic » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:11 pm
Liriena wrote:The first Galactic Republic wrote:Define oppressed?
Because if the implication is that some system is oppressing them, I don't believe that. But yes there are problems unique to women in the west.
If you include trans women, there certainly is a system that's oppressing them. Let's not forget the recent attempts to bring toilet policing to severals American states. Also, these statistics.
by Atomic Utopia » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:11 pm
by Spiffier » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:12 pm
Costa Fierro wrote:No. There isn't any institutional or social oppression. However, there is discrimination and this discrimination affects both men and women in different ways.
Anyone who thinks women are oppressed should spend some time in Saudi Arabia. That is true oppression.
by Liriena » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:13 pm
The first Galactic Republic wrote:Liriena wrote:If you include trans women, there certainly is a system that's oppressing them. Let's not forget the recent attempts to bring toilet policing to severals American states. Also, these statistics.
Ah well, I guess I was focused too much on Emma Watson's points.
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by Pandeeria » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:13 pm
Spiffier wrote:Costa Fierro wrote:No. There isn't any institutional or social oppression. However, there is discrimination and this discrimination affects both men and women in different ways.
Anyone who thinks women are oppressed should spend some time in Saudi Arabia. That is true oppression.
I'm not saying there is institutional oppression anymore in the West, but saying women are only oppressed in a condition like Saudi Arabia is like saying the only real oppression of blacks was slavery.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Spiffier » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:15 pm
Pandeeria wrote:Spiffier wrote:I'm not saying there is institutional oppression anymore in the West, but saying women are only oppressed in a condition like Saudi Arabia is like saying the only real oppression of blacks was slavery.
Virtually every social group in every country faces societal issues. That doesn't mean everyone is oppressed.
by Giovenith » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:16 pm
by Costa Fierro » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:17 pm
Liriena wrote:Costa Fierro wrote:No. There isn't any institutional or social oppression. However, there is discrimination and this discrimination affects both men and women in different ways.
Anyone who thinks women are oppressed should spend some time in Saudi Arabia. That is true oppression.
And the fallacy of relative privation rears its head.
Spiffier wrote:I'm not saying there is institutional oppression anymore in the West, but saying women are only oppressed in a condition like Saudi Arabia is like saying the only real oppression of blacks was slavery.
by Felrik » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:17 pm
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