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Where nations come together and discuss matters of varying degrees of importance. [In character]

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Puertollano
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Founded: Nov 30, 2015
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Postby Puertollano » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:52 pm

The Empire of Argentina wrote:
Puertollano wrote:

It's remarkable that you've etched the issue that placed you in hot water with the international community from your brain. When you recognise a caliphate that is beheading millions of people, all modern nations except from yours seem to call that condoning violence. Not even that, you offered aid to the so called 'Islamic State'.

There is a difference between supporting violence and supporting a government


No, not when the government you support beheads non-sunnis.
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New Metropolitan France
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1505
Founded: Aug 02, 2015
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby New Metropolitan France » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:09 pm

Puertollano wrote:
New Metropolitan France wrote:Voting against a bill because of it's title, representative? What would you find more suitable? I don't belive that trying to prevent civilian death in an invasion is inappropriate.


The name of the title isn't the reason why we're not endorsing this bill. We can save that debate for another place. 'Exemption Ceasfire of Argentinia Act' sounds much more appropriate, since Argentina did endorse violence, the opposite to peace, and that they are exempt from punishment because -- France and them are great trade partners?

"Trade. Trade. Trade? Esteemed representative, do you really view the Republic as that shortsighted and selfish? In fact, we plan on imposing a trade embargo of our own against Argentina. However that does not equal war. It is our continent which is being threatened by the Finnish regime. We are dropping thermobaric weapons upon them as we speak. Please, do not insinuate that we value our own trade interests more than the people of Finland. We act as we do because attacking a nation for diplomatically recognition is a major overreaction. The aid you claim they have sent was humanitarian in nature, please review their news announcements if you do not believe me. So tell me, is your invasion as justified as you claim? Until they actually take steps against the anti-coup forces, they have done nothing outside of their rights in this instance. This proposal will allow you to invade them if they do provide military aid, or if they actually intervene directly themselves."

The French Prime Minister turned to address the entire room.

"Angola has no relevance to this discussion. France does not recognize a single religion as it's state one, however it remains not a crime for a country to have one."

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Zackaroth
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Founded: Oct 28, 2004
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Postby Zackaroth » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:23 pm

" This proposal will allow you to invade them if they do provide military aid, or if they actually intervene directly themselves."


" But they already have Prime Minister! No disrespect but Zackaroth is the foremost expert on terrorism in this room. We have lived with it for years and every day it threatens out existence just like it did the Finnish people. We have actionable proof that Argentina was aiding the Taliban during the Afghan war, sending them supplies and troops. They already offered aid and recogination to the Islamic State. Argentina is a dangerous country and must be stopped. We feel we must remove them from Angola to prevent them supporting the many remaining terrorist organizations that that have taken route in Africa . We do not trust our former allies, nor do we believe they have simply misspoken. You do not misspeak when hundreds of people are being beheaded on live TV. That was a calculated move on their part and they are trying to cover it up by feigning innocence. Whatever the Union and others choose to do the main land of Argentina is their business but we will not sit back and let a state that sponsors terrorism have a colony so close to us and our allies"

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New Metropolitan France
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Founded: Aug 02, 2015
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby New Metropolitan France » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:33 pm

"Almost every city in Metropolitan France was attacked by the Akksum Fascists, by the APLF, and we continue to deal with alienated Eastern European groups to this day. We are well aware of the impact of terrorism. You claim to have this proof, but was it in the official capacity of their government? Why have you not brought it forward before now? All we see is opportunism. Again, we state that the aid Argentina offered to Finland was humanitarian. Do you condemn that? In Angola, Argentina has continued anti-terror operations, with French approval."

The Prime Minister halted for a moment, and had a drink before continuing.

"I haven't visited Tehran recently, representative. How unfortunate that accident was, and the civilian cost it resulted in. The Western intelligence operations spent some time investigating that, but their report remains classified. But of course, that is irrelevant. So is Angola."

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The Empire of Argentina
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Founded: Mar 24, 2016
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Postby The Empire of Argentina » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:25 pm

Puertollano wrote:
The Empire of Argentina wrote:There is a difference between supporting violence and supporting a government


No, not when the government you support beheads non-sunnis.

ReRead my post. There is a difference between supporting a government and supporting violence. Please avoid using falacious statements
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Empire of the United Kingdom
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Founded: Aug 30, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Empire of the United Kingdom » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:16 am

"Nay, we support Puertollano and the Commonwealth as well as our own interests in Argentina. We are all in all wary of the combination of religion and state, so seeing Argentina aid a government which supports terrorism - and not just that, ARE terrorists - is too far for us. Unfortunately the Argentine regime does not have much chance of standing while they show such ignorance to terrorism. An enemy to the world is an enemy of the state, ladies and gentleman."
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Imperialist Sweden
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Posts: 161
Founded: May 31, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperialist Sweden » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:28 pm

Nay, Argentina's recognition of these terrorists as the rulers of a legitimate Finnish state is a threat to democracy and secularism.

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Imperialist Sweden
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Posts: 161
Founded: May 31, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperialist Sweden » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:23 pm

DRS Proposal: Finnish Reconstruction Proposal
Noting that the Finnish Liberation War, as well as the genocide and refugee crisis along with it, has crippled the economy, population, and military strength and destroyed the legitimate government.

Acknowledging the extreme ethnic nationalist sentiment and wave of "counter-terrorist" spirit sweeping over Finland.

Understanding that these racial misconceptions are born out of legitimate fears that are exploited by politicians.

Aiming to counter ethnic violence.

Declares that ethnic violence shall be illegal in Finland and enforced by Swedish troops who are carefully monitored by the Democritus Capital Territory, that the Finnish Constitution is restored to Finnish lands, and that the democratic process to elect a new government will be carefully overseen by the Democritus Capital Territory.

Hopes that a resolution can be passed later to demilitarize Finland once it is stable.

Remembering the 1809 Treaty of Fredriksham, which annexed the Swedish Aland Islands for Finland.

Realizing that the vast majority of the people of the Aland Islands are linguistically, culturally, and ethnically Swedish.

Further noting that the Aland Islands has asked to rejoin Sweden due to its fear of Finnish nationalism and cultural, ethnic, and linguistic ties to Sweden.

Declares the Aland Islands shall become a semi-autonomous province of Sweden.

AYES: Imperialist Sweden, New Metropolitan France, The Turkish State, The Underground Movement Union, Virrgo, Puertollano
NAYS:
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New Metropolitan France
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Founded: Aug 02, 2015
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby New Metropolitan France » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:26 pm

Aye.

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The Turkish State
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Posts: 147
Founded: Aug 05, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby The Turkish State » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:49 pm

Aye
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The Underground Movement Union
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Posts: 3788
Founded: Mar 07, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Underground Movement Union » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:50 pm

Imperialist Sweden wrote:
DRS Proposal: Finnish Reconstruction Proposal
Noting that the Finnish Liberation War, as well as the genocide and refugee crisis along with it, has crippled the economy, population, and military strength and destroyed the legitimate government.

Acknowledging the extreme ethnic nationalist sentiment and wave of "counter-terrorist" spirit sweeping over Finland.

Understanding that these racial misconceptions are born out of legitimate fears that are exploited by politicians.

Aiming to counter ethnic violence.

Declares that ethnic violence shall be illegal in Finland and enforced by Swedish troops who are carefully monitored by the Democritus Capital Territory, that the Finnish Constitution is restored to Finnish lands, and that the democratic process to elect a new government will be carefully overseen by the Democritus Capital Territory.

Hopes that a resolution can be passed later to demilitarize Finland once it is stable.

Remembering the 1809 Treaty of Fredriksham, which annexed the Swedish Aland Islands for Finland.

Realizing that the vast majority of the people of the Aland Islands are linguistically, culturally, and ethnically Swedish.

Further noting that the Aland Islands has asked to rejoin Sweden due to its fear of Finnish nationalism and cultural, ethnic, and linguistic ties to Sweden.

Declares the Aland Islands shall become a semi-autonomous province of Sweden.

AYES: Imperialist Sweden, New Metropolitan France
NAYS:

The Losco-Unionian Commonwealth endorses the proposal.

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Virrgo
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 144
Founded: Sep 20, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Virrgo » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:06 pm

Aye

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Akksum
Minister
 
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Founded: Oct 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Akksum » Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:23 pm

Imperialist Sweden wrote:
DRS Proposal: Finnish Reconstruction Proposal
Noting that the Finnish Liberation War, as well as the genocide and refugee crisis along with it, has crippled the economy, population, and military strength and destroyed the legitimate government.

Acknowledging the extreme ethnic nationalist sentiment and wave of "counter-terrorist" spirit sweeping over Finland.

Understanding that these racial misconceptions are born out of legitimate fears that are exploited by politicians.

Aiming to counter ethnic violence.

Declares that ethnic violence shall be illegal in Finland and enforced by Swedish troops who are carefully monitored by the Democritus Capital Territory, that the Finnish Constitution is restored to Finnish lands, and that the democratic process to elect a new government will be carefully overseen by the Democritus Capital Territory.

Hopes that a resolution can be passed later to demilitarize Finland once it is stable.

Remembering the 1809 Treaty of Fredriksham, which annexed the Swedish Aland Islands for Finland.

Realizing that the vast majority of the people of the Aland Islands are linguistically, culturally, and ethnically Swedish.

Further noting that the Aland Islands has asked to rejoin Sweden due to its fear of Finnish nationalism and cultural, ethnic, and linguistic ties to Sweden.

Declares the Aland Islands shall become a semi-autonomous province of Sweden.

AYES: Imperialist Sweden, New Metropolitan France, The Turkish State, The Underground Movement Union, Virrgo
NAYS:

Aye
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Democritus Founder
Secretary
 
Posts: 35
Founded: Aug 01, 2015
Father Knows Best State

Postby Democritus Founder » Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:23 pm

Passed.

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The United Kingdom of Greater America
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 50
Founded: Nov 26, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby The United Kingdom of Greater America » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:33 am

I'd like to call for a regional referendum to either restart the regional RP or to create another regional RP.

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Orostan
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Posts: 6750
Founded: May 02, 2016
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Orostan » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:19 am

The United Kingdom of Greater America wrote:I'd like to call for a regional referendum to either restart the regional RP or to create another regional RP.

A thousand times nein.
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Akksum
Minister
 
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Founded: Oct 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Akksum » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:43 pm

The United Kingdom of Greater America wrote:I'd like to call for a regional referendum to either restart the regional RP or to create another regional RP.

I saw no to this, because I believe you just want to redo everything you've done and everyone has done just for your own benefit.
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Orostan
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Founded: May 02, 2016
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Orostan » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:25 pm

Orostan would like to call for a peace deal with the LAR.
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN
Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"



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Imperialist Sweden
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 161
Founded: May 31, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperialist Sweden » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:41 pm

DRS Proposal: LAR-Paraguay War Conclusion
Noting the false allegations of WMDs that caused the Commonwealth of the Latin American Republics to declare an unprovoked war on Paraguay.

Recognizing that Orostan and Prussia began an attempt to invade the LAR after this declaration.

Realizing that these two sides are evenly matched and that neither side will attain any progress without a miracle.

Fearing that a war of attrition will hurt too many civilians unnecessarily and damage too many economies.

Acknowledging Orostan's desire for $4 trillion in reparations to itself and another $4 trillion to Paraguay.

Dismissing these calls for reparations as unnecessary, unethical, and unrealistic, as the LAR never crossed into the lands of Paraguay at any time and it has no obligation to pay reparations to Orostan, which it never directly provoked.

Declares that the LAR-Paraguay War is over.

Establishes a 4-mile demilitarized zone on the LAR-Paraguay and LAR-Orostan borders to prevent further skirmishes.

AYES: Imperialist Sweden
NAYS:
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Osztrak-Ungarreich
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Posts: 8
Founded: Jun 16, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Osztrak-Ungarreich » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:53 pm

Aye

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Orostan
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Founded: May 02, 2016
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Orostan » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:54 pm

Orostan will support this treaty if a DMZ is established on the LAR border to Orostan.
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN
Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"



#FreeNSGRojava
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Losconia
Envoy
 
Posts: 259
Founded: Sep 13, 2015
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Losconia » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:00 pm

Aye

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New Metropolitan France
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Founded: Aug 02, 2015
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby New Metropolitan France » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:12 pm

Aye, on the condition a 4 mile DMZ is added.

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Imperialist Sweden
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Posts: 161
Founded: May 31, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperialist Sweden » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:26 pm

"We have amended it to say: 'Establishes a 4-mile demilitarized zone on the LAR-Paraguay border to prevent further skirmishes.' If anyone who has voted already has changed their mind, they may change their vote accordingly."

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Orostan
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Founded: May 02, 2016
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Orostan » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:37 pm

Imperialist Sweden wrote:"We have amended it to say: 'Establishes a 4-mile demilitarized zone on the LAR-Paraguay border to prevent further skirmishes.' If anyone who has voted already has changed their mind, they may change their vote accordingly."

And on the border of Orostan, otherwise Orostan will support this.
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN
Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"



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