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Where should a Spinoff of this RP be based? (ROUND II)

The Georgia Federation
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Maryland
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Total votes : 24

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Alinora
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Postby Alinora » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:48 pm

Cainesland wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
I don't constantly berate or insult you. I just point things out. And, I am disgusting at how you and Amiege are junkies.


Am I to understand that you are saying that you are highly upset with the concept of people that are unfortunately addicted to a mind and body altering substance that leads to a state of unemployment and low-ambition, than you are saying that you are highly upset with Nar and Amiege?

Dude it's fucking POT.

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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:50 pm

Alinora wrote:
Cainesland wrote:
Am I to understand that you are saying that you are highly upset with the concept of people that are unfortunately addicted to a mind and body altering substance that leads to a state of unemployment and low-ambition, than you are saying that you are highly upset with Nar and Amiege?

Dude it's fucking POT.


Still falls under a mind altering substance that leads to a state of low-ambition is it not?

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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:51 pm

Alinora wrote:
Cainesland wrote:
Am I to understand that you are saying that you are highly upset with the concept of people that are unfortunately addicted to a mind and body altering substance that leads to a state of unemployment and low-ambition, than you are saying that you are highly upset with Nar and Amiege?

Dude it's fucking POT.


Also, please mind the swearing.
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Alinora
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Postby Alinora » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:44 pm

Cainesland wrote:
Alinora wrote:Dude it's fucking POT.


Still falls under a mind altering substance that leads to a state of low-ambition is it not?

But it's not some life-ruined thing that causes ODs and shit

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Ameige
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Postby Ameige » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:24 pm

Alinora wrote:
Cainesland wrote:
Still falls under a mind altering substance that leads to a state of low-ambition is it not?

But it's not some life-ruined thing that causes ODs and shit


mind altering yes, as most drugs are. state of low-ambition? only when your high on it. Once the effect wears off your fine.
And the whole point of it is to mellow you out and make you feel chill and cool about everything around you.

Great if you work at a highly stressful dead end 9-5 job where all you get all day is your boss telling you how bad you suck at your job and comparing you to an employee they like. "you should be more like this person and be better at your job instead of sucking all the time."

Its not crack or acid. It doesn't ruin your life. The only reason it would screw with your work or get unemployeed due to it is if you smoke it and get late for going to work.
which I never do. The effects of it are temporary and aside from a slight feeling of drunkenness afterwords, I have never felt any ill side effects and it hasn't ruined my life. Probably saved it a few times actually. Keeps me from wanting to throttle that goody two shoes at work or my boss that wants me to be more like that stupid stuck up boss's pet.

You cant OD on is as far as I am aware of. It doesn't make you see monsters or make you think there are bugs crawling under your skin like crack and meth do. It doesn't make your body age prematurely like meth does and make a 25 year old look like she is 50.
It doesn't coat your lungs in tar and slowly kill you like cigarettes do.
The only effects it has on the human body is giving your brain the idea that you are super hungry even if you weren't before, but also soo lazy that you don't want to get up off your ass cause your soo chill and relaxed and make you a total space cadet. And maybe tripping out a bit so you think your clock is melting.

Point is, yeah we might be junkies. But we are about the most harmless type of junkies you'll ever find. There is a reason you don't find pot smokers wandering around town. They cant bring themselves to get off their ass. And if they can, its just to grab munchies and then go back to sitting down again.

We aren't dangerous tweakers that will do anything for their next fix. we aren't weirdos that pick imaginary insects out of our skin till there are pock marks all over our arms. Our drug doesn't make us look like we are someone's grandmother when we are really barely old to be a mother.

Probably about the lamest, most unscary junky you will ever find. When we are high we just want to be left alone to chill and eat chips and talk about stupid things that, while interesting in the moment, makes us look like total morons later. Trying to figure out the mysteries of the universe and what makes things in the world do what they do and all sorts of lame stuff that has nothing to do with anything.

And then an hour later we are normal again and everything is fine. Except sometimes afterwords I have a slight buzz like people get when they are drunk. But not always.
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Ameige
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Postby Ameige » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:01 am

The reason I even mentioned the pot thing was as a reference point regarding the fake drug from the movie judge dredd that gives a similar experience to the user. Not to make this into a moral debate about drugs.

Just trying to say that if someone were to take the time slowing drug from judge dredd, they would have the same basic experience as they would from taking pot but with the added sensation of time slowing down around them.

Now can we please move on from all this to something else? I didn't mean for this to delve into a big 2 page discussion about pot.

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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:43 am

Ameige wrote:The reason I even mentioned the pot thing was as a reference point regarding the fake drug from the movie judge dredd that gives a similar experience to the user. Not to make this into a moral debate about drugs.

Just trying to say that if someone were to take the time slowing drug from judge dredd, they would have the same basic experience as they would from taking pot but with the added sensation of time slowing down around them.

Now can we please move on from all this to something else? I didn't mean for this to delve into a big 2 page discussion about pot.


Thank you Amiege. Moving on is probably for the best. It's possible that the new drug was developed on the jet road, but I'm kind of skeptical about allowing that kind of powerful drug. I will sleep on it and get back to an answer in the morning.

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Commonwealth of Hank the Cat
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Founded: Aug 01, 2014
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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:54 am

I don't care. You can still be addicted to pot, by BUYING pot from dealers you fund those dealers who, aside from making pot, make drugs that can make you OD. And besides, do you literatly have nothing better to then that waste time getting a "high?" Ooo yeaahhh i fuunnndddeeeddd gaanngggg ccooonnnffflliccts. Congratulations, you wasted time getting "high" and therefore decreased your productivty due to pot making you lazy and unmotivatd. Pot has caused buisnesses to slow down since all the employees are lazy junkies. It is simple.

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Alinora
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Founded: Jun 10, 2016
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Postby Alinora » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:01 am

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:I don't care. You can still be addicted to pot, by BUYING pot from dealers you fund those dealers who, aside from making pot, make drugs that can make you OD. And besides, do you literatly have nothing better to then that waste time getting a "high?" Ooo yeaahhh i fuunnndddeeeddd gaanngggg ccooonnnffflliccts. Congratulations, you wasted time getting "high" and therefore decreased your productivty due to pot making you lazy and unmotivatd. Pot has caused buisnesses to slow down since all the employees are lazy junkies. It is simple.

I mean, I have a job, my grades were good, it wasn't getting in the way of my personal life or relationships or anything. That makes me an unmotivated, lazy piece of shit?

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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:04 am

Cainesland wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
I don't constantly berate or insult you. I just point things out. And, I am disgusting at how you and Amiege are junkies.


And again, name calling isn't cool.

I'm going to be very clear, and this goes for everyone.

Don't be too aggressive. No name calling (Implications of lifestyle included). If you don't have anything nice or constructive (in a friendly way) don't say anything in the ooc at all.

By saying the word Junky your implying that they spend their time passed out on a dumpster, and that's not an implication to be made lightly.

Is that in any way unclear?

Ties rules of course apply to co-ops and ops as well.

Treat others as you wish to be treated.


Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:I don't care. You can still be addicted to pot, by BUYING pot from dealers you fund those dealers who, aside from making pot, make drugs that can make you OD. And besides, do you literatly have nothing better to then that waste time getting a "high?" Ooo yeaahhh i fuunnndddeeeddd gaanngggg ccooonnnffflliccts. Congratulations, you wasted time getting "high" and therefore decreased your productivty due to pot making you lazy and unmotivatd. Pot has caused buisnesses to slow down since all the employees are lazy junkies. It is simple.


Aggressive tone. Implication of lifestyle. Not nice.

Just to reiterate.

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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:07 am

Amiege, if it helps, the sierra Madre events from the last rp are considered canon. So your character does have a few bars from the heist (2 per person I think). The bars are valued at 50 thousand caps per bar.

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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:14 am

Alinora wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:I don't care. You can still be addicted to pot, by BUYING pot from dealers you fund those dealers who, aside from making pot, make drugs that can make you OD. And besides, do you literatly have nothing better to then that waste time getting a "high?" Ooo yeaahhh i fuunnndddeeeddd gaanngggg ccooonnnffflliccts. Congratulations, you wasted time getting "high" and therefore decreased your productivty due to pot making you lazy and unmotivatd. Pot has caused buisnesses to slow down since all the employees are lazy junkies. It is simple.

I mean, I have a job, my grades were good, it wasn't getting in the way of my personal life or relationships or anything. That makes me an unmotivated, lazy piece of shit?


Is weed illegal in your area? If not you probably aren't breaking any laws (though I can't confirm that), and as long as you purchase from a licensed vendor you likely aren't supporting crack (though I can't confirm that). I will try not to go further on that issue since the war on drugs is not a subject with with id consider an area of expertise of myself.

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Commonwealth of Hank the Cat
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Founded: Aug 01, 2014
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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:17 am

Alinora wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:I don't care. You can still be addicted to pot, by BUYING pot from dealers you fund those dealers who, aside from making pot, make drugs that can make you OD. And besides, do you literatly have nothing better to then that waste time getting a "high?" Ooo yeaahhh i fuunnndddeeeddd gaanngggg ccooonnnffflliccts. Congratulations, you wasted time getting "high" and therefore decreased your productivty due to pot making you lazy and unmotivatd. Pot has caused buisnesses to slow down since all the employees are lazy junkies. It is simple.

I mean, I have a job, my grades were good, it wasn't getting in the way of my personal life or relationships or anything. That makes me an unmotivated, lazy piece of shit?


No. But you are indirectly giving money to dealers who use sell drugs like crack and heroin.

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Alinora
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Founded: Jun 10, 2016
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Postby Alinora » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:17 am

Cainesland wrote:
Alinora wrote:I mean, I have a job, my grades were good, it wasn't getting in the way of my personal life or relationships or anything. That makes me an unmotivated, lazy piece of shit?


Is weed illegal in your area? If not you probably aren't breaking any laws (though I can't confirm that), and as long as you purchase from a licensed vendor you likely aren't supporting crack (though I can't confirm that). I will try not to go further on that issue since the war on drugs is not a subject with with id consider an area of expertise of myself.

It's de-criminalized

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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:19 am

Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
Alinora wrote:I mean, I have a job, my grades were good, it wasn't getting in the way of my personal life or relationships or anything. That makes me an unmotivated, lazy piece of shit?


No. But you are indirectly giving money to dealers who use sell drugs like crack and heroin.


By "dealers" are you referring to street vendors or licensed drug stores?

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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:19 am

Alinora wrote:
Cainesland wrote:
Is weed illegal in your area? If not you probably aren't breaking any laws (though I can't confirm that), and as long as you purchase from a licensed vendor you likely aren't supporting crack (though I can't confirm that). I will try not to go further on that issue since the war on drugs is not a subject with with id consider an area of expertise of myself.

It's de-criminalized


OK. That's good to know.

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Ironsbad
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Postby Ironsbad » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:22 am

So... What's going on in the Mojave?

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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:31 am

Ironsbad wrote:So... What's going on in the Mojave?


When I get a moment I'll be responding to Nar (Allinora). A sovereign city-state is springing up around lake Las Vegas. Carson is waiting to pay off his debts to the FROM and get the ultra luxe up and running again. The NCR is fighting a civil war. The war against the legion hasn't been posted about in a while. Does that help?
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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:35 pm

Any suggestions for the sovereign city-state/ GECK city that the Gentles are building up? Setting wise, such as special districts and whatnot. Just so I have more ideas for the future.

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Togeria
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Postby Togeria » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:44 pm

GECK city?
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DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:47 pm

Togeria wrote:GECK city?


Like vault city, it's a city built by a Geck.

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Waztaskio
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Postby Waztaskio » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:20 pm

You know...I just realized that the NCR has Power Armor Training for some units. Making some suits of Power Armor to be able to be used. Interesting...

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Ameige
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Founded: Jan 17, 2014
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Postby Ameige » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:53 pm

Cainesland wrote:Amiege, if it helps, the sierra Madre events from the last rp are considered canon. So your character does have a few bars from the heist (2 per person I think). The bars are valued at 50 thousand caps per bar.


Damn... I'll have to switch around a few things then. In the last incarnation he came out with 4.
2 went to helping out the economy by giving them to the president, and the other two went to the people building the cave town with the idea presented that once the group was paid the gold bars, the government could send some undercover ops to swoop in dressed as raiders or khans or some other bad guy faction to kill the workers and steal the gold, thus giving the government more gold.

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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:36 pm

Ameige wrote:
Cainesland wrote:Amiege, if it helps, the sierra Madre events from the last rp are considered canon. So your character does have a few bars from the heist (2 per person I think). The bars are valued at 50 thousand caps per bar.


Damn... I'll have to switch around a few things then. In the last incarnation he came out with 4.
2 went to helping out the economy by giving them to the president, and the other two went to the people building the cave town with the idea presented that once the group was paid the gold bars, the government could send some undercover ops to swoop in dressed as raiders or khans or some other bad guy faction to kill the workers and steal the gold, thus giving the government more gold.


No, you're right. I looked into it and O'neil had 4 bars after all.

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Togeria
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Postby Togeria » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:13 pm

Cainesland wrote:
Togeria wrote:GECK city?


Like vault city, it's a city built by a Geck.

Okay, now who are the Gentles?
I love telegrams please by all means telegram me!


DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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