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by Nova Gaul » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:03 pm
by Beddgelert » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:58 pm
by Chrinthanium » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:05 pm
Nova Gaul wrote:Great comments as always Chrin. I just put up the Congo because of the wild expanse and resources of course. I’d be more than happy to not include it if others aren’t happy with that. It’s no major issue. It just popped into my mind. I can see why people might have a problem though. Maybe I could include a few more less populous west African nations (that’s why I purposely didn’t think of Nigeria). Maybe Cote d’Ivoire, Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea-Bissau, possibly even Burkina Faso added in? Maybe Cote d’Ivoire and Ghana? I am very open. And some non contiguous colonies would be great too.
I am not looking for huge land grabs, above all, but colonies with resources that I could have some insurrections in that lead to future RP.
My sense of it is the French go through periods of greater and lesser stability. Although there are unhappy folks in the country c 2016, I’d still say it’s stable compared to times before. Indeed, hypothetically, this stability is credited to the French economy in my mind at this stage is being propped up by limited quantitative easing supplemented by dirt cheap imports from the Colonies. Not an ideal situation, as you point out, but the monarchy is trying to put more and more band aids on the a constant wound. Bad analogy I know.
I am fine without a Napoleon too, just wanted to see if the community wanted one. If not, I’d rather not too.
As I said, I don’t think the French have any aggressive motives with Spain. The goal is to maintain the status quo, and maintain a balance of power. But yes I am sure gunning down protestors and extrajudicial imprisonment wouldn’t sit well with a liberal government. I imagine the border is fairly tight, but I don’t see any need for overt hostilities. Likewise, the Iberians would be welcome to vacation in France should they choose. I am sure more than one person in France whose under the eye of the authorities would have sought asylum south of the border too.
Speaking of South of the border, dealing with Esplanadia would be great with France. I doubt they’d commit to any formal alliances, but another absolute monarchy would make for great marriage possibilities with those two like minded royal families.
by Nova Gaul » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:35 pm
by AMW Applications » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:34 pm
by The Crooked Beat » Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:47 pm
by Chrinthanium » Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:52 am
The Crooked Beat wrote:Just checking in briefly to say that I am both extremely pleased to see that NG has decided to return, and highly enthusiastic for the numerous new RP opportunities which our new France represents. Undoubtedly there is no one better-suited to playing France than NG, and the claim, including its colonial aspects, has my full support.
A short statement on Franco-Gandvian relations, while Gandvik is very far from an absolute monarchy (the monarch in fact wielding effectively no power, and arguably a closeted social democrat to boot), neither is it in any way ideological where foreign affairs are concerned, and if for no other reason than Gandvik's strategic fear of Valendia (as always, stop me if I'm portraying Valendia in a completely wrong light here) the two states are probably natural associates. As to whether or not an alliance might exist, that could depend in large part on France's relationship with Walmington, which I'd guess stands to be fairly adversarial. Certainly Riga would not want to risk driving Valendia and Walmington together by its making any binding military or strategic commitments to Versailles, though such objections won't carry much weight if Walmington and Valendia are already on friendly terms.Some additional Gandvik discussions, put here so as to avoid causing offense.
I think, after much characteristic vacillation, that I'm fairly set on the new idea of a limited and redistributed Gandvik, and while this potentially now deprives Depkazia of its northern land border, a development which, I would hope, might be offset by the opening of a trade route through Geletia and the Black Sea, coupled with Parsistani porousness, I'm leaning in the new direction in no small part because, by leaving room in Russia for a new player, the pressure, so to speak, on the Gull Flag Republic from Gandvik is reduced, the relative balance of power becomes more even, and a Gandvik now staring down directly a decidedly scary Valendia finds itself significantly more dependent on systems of continental alliances.
I hope this makes some sense to someone besides myself!
by Nova Gaul » Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:45 pm
by Beddgelert » Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:54 pm
by Nova Gaul » Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:45 pm
by Chrinthanium » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:35 am
Nova Gaul wrote:Thanks for the awesome response BG. I am working on a prospective factbook as we speak, but will hold off a bit until more people chime in about Africa. I’m again not trying to push Congo and Cote d’Ivoire as a power play, but just because they fit. If anyone is uncomfortable I can switch it out, just want to get a consensus. But the factbook is coming along, well I hope, but you’ll all have to judge that.
*FANTASTIC* information about the émigré troops. Right off the bat the Kingdom of France would welcome with open arms (or at least the nobility and their hangers-on would) any foreign peers rudely dispossessed of their God given inheritance by the lower order. Any Principality era exiles would find a warm welcome in France, most especially any royals that escaped. I am sure their titles would see them well in France, with not a few toadies seeing them as an alternative route into the Court. They might make some decent coin selling access to Court I imagine, with formal presentations and whatnot.
Le Garde Geletienne I think, to make a neologism. Maybe a company of hussars, that’d be grand, and they’d look smashing on parade through the Champs-Élysées. Do you figure of a company of 256 is realistic? Perhaps commanded by an exiled noble, one of the princely blood maybe even? They’d be, along with the other foreign troops, members of the King’s Household. Equivalent to Lifeguards.
Maybe on top of them a Greek Battalion and, perhaps, a full Tsag Regiment? Anyway exciting for me at least.
EDIT: I put up the first blurb of a working factbook, see the link below, but it can, again, easily be chaged.
by Nova Gaul » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:36 pm
by Chrinthanium » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:58 am
Nova Gaul wrote:Oh and BG – I didn’t neglect the Igovian guerillas point, in fact I’m really looking forward to it. That also transits well to what I wanted to speak about with Chrin.
I haven’t had a chance to get it on the factbook yet, but I wanted to say France and Esplanada may share drugs as a common factor. I’m going to go into more detail on the factbook, but for at least several decades France has been inundating the African colonies with a highly addictive hypnotic-opioid combination drug (but cheap to produce and of dubious purity) known as Trac-A, probably known to the locals as ‘dreamers’. The purpose of this drug pushing would be to sedate the population while simultaneously getting them to become more dependent on the French, with the added benefit of making them more pliable subjects: people won’t rebel when they’re generally in an euphoric coma and would be afraid to do so because that’d result in a disruption in supply. I’d imagine dependency is well above ¾ in both the Congo and Cote d’Ivoire. I wouldn’t even be surprised if workers were often paid in part, a large part, with the drugs.
In France proper of course drugs would be strictly controlled (at least outside of the Court, where I imagine drug use and abuse of every sort is totally rampant, it’d help explain why people in 2016 still dress like they’re in 1785). Cannabinoids of excellent quality would be freely available and their use even encouraged, but drugs that cause physical dependency and weaken the workforce, while seen as a boon in Africa, would be seen by the crown as an economic negative in France.
I can imagine no better supplier of the components Trac-A than Esplanada: the French territories lack the requisite climate needed to grow the opium poppy. So if the drug lords were willing to sell at dirt cheap prices (making up for any losses in gargantuan qualities supplied) I imagine there’s ships bringing raw drugs across the Atlantic by the kiloton be refined into Trac-A in France.
That could perhaps be the link that allows France and Esplanada to build their relationship, perhaps with an eye towards a dynastic marriage along the way. When things get rolling France might even enter into your current RP, it’d perhaps be a good debut.
Please have Andorra, I took Monaco in my claim, so I see no reason why Iberia should have it.
by Nova Gaul » Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:18 pm
by Europe - Prussia » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:17 pm
by Nova Gaul » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:44 pm
by Chrinthanium » Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:42 pm
Nova Gaul wrote:Pipe it into the water! Hahaha, ingenious! "Stop worrying about things Pablo, get a nice glass of soma-cool from the tap!"
I very much look forward to the RP Chrin, let me know when you get things squared away and feel comfortable with me doing a post myself.
by AMW Applications » Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:56 pm
by Nova Gaul » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:32 pm
by Europe - Prussia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:44 am
Nova Gaul wrote:Heya EP,
Thanks for the welcome, it’s so great to be back and factbooking once again. Please do check out the factbooks everyone, I have the overview and the nature of the government up now.
Just to speak to questions of instability, I’d like to point out that although there were several revolutions in French history and bad riots in 2014 (all explained in the factbook) the Kingdom is in a pretty stable way right now with now, well, existential problems as yet.
I do agree to the trade idea: dislike each other though they may, neither Valendia nor France (nor Iberia or WoS for that matter) really have anything to gain from a war. Of course this may change if, as you point out, power blocks form, but as of France’s debut I imagine the last 50 years have been very unremarkable in terms of international disputes in Europe.
I have no idea where France fits into the Great War, and don’t really want to work about that yet, but I can easily imagine they’d have joined the Aventine.
I am working on the factbooks as we speak, so there will be more forthcoming, but I think I have enough up now for everyone to have a very good idea of where I’m starting and: and to lodge any complaints or concerns if they have any.
So good to be back, I really missed AMW, my home away from home.
by Nova Gaul » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:05 am
by Europe - Prussia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:16 am
by Walmington on Sea » Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:09 pm
by Chrinthanium » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:34 pm
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