Missing Boy Found Alive After Abandoned by his Parents

[NERVUN]

Some more information: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/0 ... cuers-say/

Okay.

Assuming the image is representative, that is indeed an unpaved track (which changes any arguments away from "forest road"). The boy walked 10km in the direction they had come, and did not press into the forest. He found himself in a hut about 50m from the road. In five minutes, he'd have put himself about half a kilometre from where he'd left the parents. If they had gone back after five minutes... if they'd gone back at all... he's not exactly far and has gone back in the direction they'd come.
And still, surely a few hundred metres, even in forest, is enough to hear something.

So there's still a lot of unknowns and I can only speculate, but now I feel vindicated.

Not exactly. I do not know that particular road of course (Hokkaido is far north of me), but I know the local forest roads.

Ok, Japanese roads, particularly these kinds, are narrow. They are windy given the steep terrain, and the forest presses RIGHT up to the road (Japan doesn't believe in clearings, sidewalks, etc.). It's very believable that a kid who was in tears could blunder uphill for some reason and very quickly be out of earshot, especially if when his parents returned they searched for him in the opposite direction.

[NERVUN]

Bit further information, http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/0 ... ct-charge/

At this time the Hokkaido police are not charging the boys parents. They have, however, refered the boy and his family to child counseling services who, after interviewing the family, will make a determination if abuse is going on or not.

[Oceanias Elena Inge Dreyden]

We're still talking about a forest road, unpaved as it appears, rather than "in the forest".

Your point is?

[Sack Jackpot Winners]

Thank God they found him.

I think it's barbaric that his parents left him in the woods to fend for himself like he was a feral child. I'm relieved he was found and uninjured physically. His parents should be charged for child abuse, period. I absolutely detest these kinds of discipline for children and it might create for emotional harm in the future.

IIRC, that's not what happened. They only intended to leave him briefly and when they came back he was gone. They didn't just drop him in the middle of the forest then notify the authorities after he didn't come home.

[Imperializt Russia]

We're still talking about a forest road, unpaved as it appears, rather than "in the forest".

Your point is?

A forest road is functionally a clearing. Sound will travel along it.

[Europe and Oceania]

Your point is?

A forest road is functionally a clearing. Sound will travel along it.

So you're saying what they did was okay?

[Sack Jackpot Winners]

A forest road is functionally a clearing. Sound will travel along it.

So you're saying what they did was okay?

That the parents are not demon spawn people are making them out to be. Not the same as approval.

[Europe and Oceania]

A forest road is functionally a clearing. Sound will travel along it.

lol that's like saying, I only stabbed that guy twice in the legs, away from the vital organs, I'm not approving it, but hey I'm not
the "demon spawn" everyone is making me out to be lol.

So you're saying what they did was okay?

That the parents are not demon spawn people are making them out to be. Not the same as approval.

You can downplay this all you want, anybody leaving a child unattended in some random place is cruel, irresponsible, neglectful, and
unusual punishment.

They are scum, the kid got lost because of these asshole parents. No responsible, caring, concerned parent would do such a thing to their own child.

[Sack Jackpot Winners]

That the parents are not demon spawn people are making them out to be. Not the same as approval.

You can downplay this all you want, anybody leaving a child unattended in some random place is cruel, irresponsible, neglectful, and
unusual punishment.

Oh, certainly three of those (I wouldn't say neglectful) and I would never ever do that to my children or stand to have another to it to theirs.

They are scum, the kid got lost because of these asshole parents. No responsible, caring, concerned parent would do such a thing to their own child.

See, this is a bit far IMHO. I don't think they are low level scum (that's reserved for another caliber of people) but they aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. Or the cleanest.

[Vulkata]

Are you guys talking about the update?

I saw CNN show the video about the kid walking out of the hospital with a hat and cotton candy waving and saying the parents are in jail for 20 years

[Europe and Oceania]

Are you guys talking about the update?

I saw CNN show the video about the kid walking out of the hospital with a hat and cotton candy waving and saying the parents are in jail for 20 years

If that's true, then that's awesome. Although, 10 years would have sufficed but nevertheless, well done.

[Vulkata]

Are you guys talking about the update?

I saw CNN show the video about the kid walking out of the hospital with a hat and cotton candy waving and saying the parents are in jail for 20 years

If that's true, then that's awesome. Although, 10 years would have sufficed but nevertheless, well done.

I didn't get to watch it though, it just showed Hillary won and is now a delegate something like that

[Europe and Oceania]

If that's true, then that's awesome. Although, 10 years would have sufficed but nevertheless, well done.

I didn't get to watch it though, it just showed Hillary won and is now a delegate something like that

I will vote for and support the democratic nominee.

I will vote for Hilary Clinton.

[NERVUN]

Are you guys talking about the update?

I saw CNN show the video about the kid walking out of the hospital with a hat and cotton candy waving and saying the parents are in jail for 20 years

I don't know what you were watching, it was not about the stated topic though.

[Vulkata]

Are you guys talking about the update?

I saw CNN show the video about the kid walking out of the hospital with a hat and cotton candy waving and saying the parents are in jail for 20 years

I don't know what you were watching, it was not about the stated topic though.

Oh no i was talking about the kid.

He was sent to the hospital righr? Now he's alright and the parents getting jailed

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Saying again, no jail time ought to be served, for the reasons thoughtfully posted prior to now. Some of your reactions are simply 'round the bend, and over the wild blue yonder, folks. Terribly sorry, but given the circumstances and various other salient points, your opinions may be more than a little misguided and overly reactive.

[Vulkata]

Saying again, no jail time ought to be served, for the reasons thoughtfully posted prior to now. Some of your reactions are simply 'round the bend, and over the wild blue yonder, folks. Terribly sorry, but given the circumstances and various other salient points, your opinions may be more than a little misguided and overly reactive.

Well the kid was throwing rocks to people and cars so you have a point

[Arlathan and the Dales]

I didn't get to watch it though, it just showed Hillary won and is now a delegate something like that

I will vote for and support the democratic nominee.

I will vote for Hilary Clinton.

Damn this entrenched two-party system.

[Seraven]

I will vote for and support the democratic nominee.

I will vote for Hilary Clinton.

Damn this entrenched two-party system.

Why we suddenly have discussion about Hillary Clinton here? No offense, but this is not the discussion thread about them.

[Reploid Productions]

Damn this entrenched two-party system.

Why we suddenly have discussion about Hillary Clinton here? No offense, but this is not the discussion thread about them.

Indeed, this. I know I'd rather not have to go pester one of the others to swat folks, and I imagine Nerv doesn't want to either.

[Imperializt Russia]

A forest road is functionally a clearing. Sound will travel along it.

lol that's like saying, I only stabbed that guy twice in the legs, away from the vital organs, I'm not approving it, but hey I'm not
the "demon spawn" everyone is making me out to be lol.

Err, no. If you read back (I think on this actual page), I disbelieve the parent's statement on how far away they went and how long for.

I believe that, unless the boy had already been left to walk for the best part of an hour or blundered considerable distance from the road into the forest proper, when the parents went back for him as quickly as they claim, and remained as near as they claim, either they'd have found him easily or the boy would probably have heard the car and made his way toward it.

[NERVUN]

lol that's like saying, I only stabbed that guy twice in the legs, away from the vital organs, I'm not approving it, but hey I'm not
the "demon spawn" everyone is making me out to be lol.

Err, no. If you read back (I think on this actual page), I disbelieve the parent's statement on how far away they went and how long for.

I believe that, unless the boy had already been left to walk for the best part of an hour or blundered considerable distance from the road into the forest proper, when the parents went back for him as quickly as they claim, and remained as near as they claim, either they'd have found him easily or the boy would probably have heard the car and made his way toward it.

Boy was interviewed by the police and his story jived with the parents.

[Imperializt Russia]

How would he know?

If he knew that they'd been gone for five minutes and were five hundred metres down the road, he'd have to have been able to see or hear the car or his parents when they came back. And probably made his way back to them.

The child has no reason to disbelieve that the parents intended to leave him there (even I don't believe that), and he also has no reason to believe they weren't gone as long or as far as they said they were.

[Purpelia]

Any updates on this? Like what's the final word? Will the Japanese prove sane and sensible or will they perform a rape of all we call justice and act along the lines of those here who mindlessly seek to punish the parents out of blind revenge?

[Ethane]

The parents were fine in the punishment they chose. The punishment they chose was acceptable, and I fail to see anything wrong with it, and see it as not necessarily amazing parenting, but a legitimate form of punishment. From what I understand, this punishment is acceptable in Japan (and possibly some other places) where there is not constant fearmongering that your kid will get raped or snatched away as soon as they leave your sight (seriously, some parents can be too authoritative, kids should be able to be kids, and learn from their mistakes, although this is a bit far on that front). So in terms of what they did immediately, fine.

However, the issue I see here is the fact that they didn't own up to what they did immediately, and instead said that they were walking in the bushes as a family (or something like that), which meant that the search was on the other side of the road from where it should have been (until they admitted a few days later what had actually happened). This is where I see the problem.

Therefore, while these parents should not be arrested for hundreds of thousands of years and subjected to endless guilt, for losing their child from this punishment, they should also not get off scotch-free. I wouldn't go so far to say that they should lose their child or anything like that, but if there is any sort of counselling and monitoring service in Japan which these parents can be put on (such as a Social Service-like system), then it would probably be best to put them under this, to monitor them, and if anything serious happens in the future, which is borderline neglect, THEN they should have their child taken away.