Discussion: Your Gods are not what you think they are

[Stormopolis]

AFTER being exposed to these astronauts.

And their helicopters, which have no need for landing strips.

The helicopter is an analogy, dear Ifreann.

[Ethel mermania]

AFTER being exposed to these astronauts.

And their helicopters, which have no need for landing strips.

Honestly, I prefer completely shaved to a landing strip anyway.

[Stormopolis]

And their helicopters, which have no need for landing strips.

Honestly, I prefer completely shaved to a landing strip anyway.

Reporting you again.

[Ifreann]

And their helicopters, which have no need for landing strips.

The helicopter is an analogy, dear Ifreann.

So the aliens landed in South America in something like aeroplanes, and got the Aztecs to build them landing strips, and gave Piri Reis a map they made from directly above Cairo, and sort of told Jonathan Swift about the moons of Mars. And you expect us to believe these things because you don't think that the Aztecs would have built roads to walk on, you don't think Piri Reis could possibly have made an inaccurate map, and you don't think that Swift could have written about Mars having moons unless an alien had told him that Mars had moons.

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Honestly, I prefer completely shaved to a landing strip anyway.

Reporting you again.

It's not against the rules to have fun, you know.

[Benuty]

There's no evidence of a God and there's no evidence of ancient moon men either.

I actually have evidence of a god since I am immortal after all.

[Ethel mermania]

Honestly, I prefer completely shaved to a landing strip anyway.

Reporting you again.

Again?



Thanks I needed the laugh. Feel free to add this post to the report.

[Benuty]

Honestly, I prefer completely shaved to a landing strip anyway.

Reporting you again.

Being that trigger happy tends to get people killed.

[Stormopolis]

So if the people that disagree with me and do so by trolling are gone, would anybody else like to talk about this?

[Neutraligon]

So if the people that disagree with me and do so by trolling are gone, would anybody else like to talk about this?

What is there to discuss seriously? Your entire idea is really rather stupid. It has no historical backing,no scientific backing, is essential all arguments from ignorance, and no does not even count as an hypothesis since it can't even be tested. Oh, please note before you talk about how this is equal to belief in a god, I am an atheist.

[Stormopolis]

So if the people that disagree with me and do so by trolling are gone, would anybody else like to talk about this?

What is there to discuss seriously? Your entire idea is really rather stupid. It has no historical backing,no scientific backing, is essential all arguments from ignorance, and no does not even count as an hypothesis since it can't even be tested. Oh, please note before you talk about how this is equal to belief in a god, I am an atheist.

Ah. Thanks.

So how would you explain the drawing of the White Lady? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Lady
What could she be wearing? Everybody went around in booty shorts in those days, right? Or similiar paintings in other countries? Or the drawings of people that look remarkably like astronauts. Well, they must have been the fishbowl-headed people, right?
Or what was it that happened in Tunguska? It was a meteoric impact site, right? Even though no traces of any sort of metal that meteors are usually composed of are found there. Oh, it was another kind of meteor. Well, that's funny. There's no crater!

And so on and so on. You can put question marks with everything. It's merely a different angle, Neutraligon. Von Däniken asked questions, wondered things out loud.

[Neutraligon]

What is there to discuss seriously? Your entire idea is really rather stupid. It has no historical backing,no scientific backing, is essential all arguments from ignorance, and no does not even count as an hypothesis since it can't even be tested. Oh, please note before you talk about how this is equal to belief in a god, I am an atheist.

Ah. Thanks.

So how would you explain the drawing of the White Lady? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Lady
What could she be wearing? Everybody went around in booty shorts in those days, right? Or similiar paintings in other countries? Or the drawings of people that look remarkably like astronauts. Well, they must have been the fishbowl-headed people, right?
Or what was it that happened in Tunguska? It was a meteoric impact site, right? Even though no traces of any sort of metal that meteors are usually composed of are found there. Oh, it was another kind of meteor. Well, that's funny. There's no crater!

And so on and so on. You can put question marks with everything. It's merely a different angle, Neutraligon. Von Däniken asked questions, wondered things out loud.

Simple, it does not matter how I would explain it. I could simply say I do not know (not being an archaeologist and all that) but that it does not mean aliens. For all I know it could be an apprentice cave painter who is really bad at painting. You are doing aliens of the gap instead of god of the gaps. It isn't another angle, it is speculation based on absolutely nothing, and not even worth consideration in the field of archeology until there is actually evidence it was aliens.

[Stormopolis]

Ah. Thanks.

So how would you explain the drawing of the White Lady? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Lady
What could she be wearing? Everybody went around in booty shorts in those days, right? Or similiar paintings in other countries? Or the drawings of people that look remarkably like astronauts. Well, they must have been the fishbowl-headed people, right?
Or what was it that happened in Tunguska? It was a meteoric impact site, right? Even though no traces of any sort of metal that meteors are usually composed of are found there. Oh, it was another kind of meteor. Well, that's funny. There's no crater!

And so on and so on. You can put question marks with everything. It's merely a different angle, Neutraligon. Von Däniken asked questions, wondered things out loud.

Simple, it does not matter how I would explain it. I could simply say I do not know (not being an archaeologist and all that) but that it does not mean aliens. For all I know it could be an apprentice cave painter who is really bad at painting. You are doing aliens of the gap instead of god of the gaps. It isn't another angle, it is speculation based on absolutely nothing, and not even worth consideration in the field of archeology until there is actually evidence it was aliens.

Well, this is why Von Däniken advocated cross-field studies. Archeology itself won't solve a thing.
Is aliens really that much stranger than a god? Many scientists of note have said it is likely there are other lifeforms somewhere out there. What do we have in favor of an existence of god? Faith? I am reminded of HHGTTG:

The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

[Godular]

What is there to discuss seriously? Your entire idea is really rather stupid. It has no historical backing,no scientific backing, is essential all arguments from ignorance, and no does not even count as an hypothesis since it can't even be tested. Oh, please note before you talk about how this is equal to belief in a god, I am an atheist.

Ah. Thanks.

So how would you explain the drawing of the White Lady? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Lady
What could she be wearing? Everybody went around in booty shorts in those days, right? Or similiar paintings in other countries? Or the drawings of people that look remarkably like astronauts. Well, they must have been the fishbowl-headed people, right?
Or what was it that happened in Tunguska? It was a meteoric impact site, right? Even though no traces of any sort of metal that meteors are usually composed of are found there. Oh, it was another kind of meteor. Well, that's funny. There's no crater!

And so on and so on. You can put question marks with everything. It's merely a different angle, Neutraligon. Von Däniken asked questions, wondered things out loud.

The white lady painting has been agreed to only be 2000 years old. Light skinned folks were around in africa then, y'know. And I find myself amused that you get 'astronauts' from 'differently colored'.

The tunguska meteor exploded before impact. Reading actual articles on the event would explain that this happened and how it did so. There have even been examples of similar events taking place in recent years. It would be quite useful for you to actually read up on the things you speak of as evidence of your claim to actually check that they are what you think they are.

[Stormopolis]

Ah. Thanks.

So how would you explain the drawing of the White Lady? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Lady
What could she be wearing? Everybody went around in booty shorts in those days, right? Or similiar paintings in other countries? Or the drawings of people that look remarkably like astronauts. Well, they must have been the fishbowl-headed people, right?
Or what was it that happened in Tunguska? It was a meteoric impact site, right? Even though no traces of any sort of metal that meteors are usually composed of are found there. Oh, it was another kind of meteor. Well, that's funny. There's no crater!

And so on and so on. You can put question marks with everything. It's merely a different angle, Neutraligon. Von Däniken asked questions, wondered things out loud.

The white lady painting has been agreed to only be 2000 years old. Light skinned folks were around in africa then, y'know. And I find myself amused that you get 'astronauts' from 'differently colored'.

The tunguska meteor exploded before impact. Reading actual articles on the event would explain that this happened and how it did so. There have even been examples of similar events taking place in recent years. It would be quite useful for you to actually read up on the things you speak of as evidence of your claim to actually check that they are what you think they are.

It's not the color, brother. I am amused that you find yourself amused by something I did not say.

Also, did I claim anything? No. I think it warrants further investigation and provided hooks for conversation. But do I claim that this is the truth? Come on bru.

[Godular]

Simple, it does not matter how I would explain it. I could simply say I do not know (not being an archaeologist and all that) but that it does not mean aliens. For all I know it could be an apprentice cave painter who is really bad at painting. You are doing aliens of the gap instead of god of the gaps. It isn't another angle, it is speculation based on absolutely nothing, and not even worth consideration in the field of archeology until there is actually evidence it was aliens.

Well, this is why Von Däniken advocated cross-field studies. Archeology itself won't solve a thing.
Is aliens really that much stranger than a god? Many scientists of note have said it is likely there are other lifeforms somewhere out there. What do we have in favor of an existence of god? Faith? I am reminded of HHGTTG:

The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

You keep talking about how our arguments against your position are propping up other religions. This is mistaken.

[Neutraligon]

Well, this is why Von Däniken advocated cross-field studies. Archeology itself won't solve a thing.
Is aliens really that much stranger than a god? Many scientists of note have said it is likely there are other lifeforms somewhere out there. What do we have in favor of an existence of god? Faith? I am reminded of HHGTTG:

You keep talking about how our arguments against your position are propping up other religions. This is mistaken.

Especially since I am atheist....
Tu quoque is not an argument in support of the OPS position.

[Immoren]

I really hope someone's not taking literalist approach to a painting that wasn't necessarily literalist.

[Godular]

The white lady painting has been agreed to only be 2000 years old. Light skinned folks were around in africa then, y'know. And I find myself amused that you get 'astronauts' from 'differently colored'.

The tunguska meteor exploded before impact. Reading actual articles on the event would explain that this happened and how it did so. There have even been examples of similar events taking place in recent years. It would be quite useful for you to actually read up on the things you speak of as evidence of your claim to actually check that they are what you think they are.

It's not the color, brother. I am amused that you find yourself amused by something I did not say.

Oh you said it. You simply choose to ignore the fact that old paintings are not picture perfect moments in their capacity to capture every conceivable detail. To use this as evidence of your position evinces little more than your willful ignorance and wishful thinking.

Also, did I claim anything? No. I think it warrants further investigation and provided hooks for conversation. But do I claim that this is the truth? Come on bru.

Your 'hooks' are ignorant and serve only to make your position more vapid than it already is. It has been studied, an explanation is in place that takes all of the evidence into account, and modern examples of the same damn thing happening are available if you bother to do a ten second search on Google.

[Genivaria]

One of the most baseless conspiracy theories out there.

[Stormopolis]

One of the most baseless conspiracy theories out there.

Curious about your wording here: why conspiracy?

[Genivaria]

One of the most baseless conspiracy theories out there.

Curious about your wording here: why conspiracy?

Because it's on the same level as David Icke's bullshit about reptilians infiltrating humanity.

[Immoren]

Curious about your wording here: why conspiracy?

Because it's on the same level as David Icke's bullshit about reptilians infiltrating humanity.

Obviously it's not reptilians.
It's amphibianoids

[Godular]

Curious about your wording here: why conspiracy?

Because it's on the same level as David Icke's bullshit about reptilians infiltrating humanity.

"It isn't dandruff, I'm molting!"

[Genivaria]

Because it's on the same level as David Icke's bullshit about reptilians infiltrating humanity.

Obviously it's not reptilians.
It's amphibianoids

Ew, I think I'd prefer reptilians.

[Immoren]

Obviously it's not reptilians.
It's amphibianoids

Ew, I think I'd prefer reptilians.

It's not like they'll give you choice.