60% of Germans - Islam Does Not Belong In Germany.

[Netherlands Mualenia]

One Muslim to do something wrong? Do you mean how Muslims commit crime disproportionate to their population, how a vast majority of "refugees" from the Middle East and Western Asia consume welfare, and how they perpetrate once unknown mass-rapes like the ones in Rotterdam and Cologne? Seems like its more than "one Muslim doing something wrong"

Clearly we need to punish all of them for the actions of a handful then.

>Handful

What a joke. Islam is evil, as is her followers.

[Vassenor]

Clearly we need to punish all of them for the actions of a handful then.

>Handful

What a joke. Islam is evil, as is her followers.

Prove it.

[Ganos Lao]

It's because people think that if we did reject them, the Saudis would be so fucked they'd be conquered by ISIS and friends. And I've long been of that opinion to some degree myself.

And like I mentioned in my initial post, that's quite possibly why the politicians single out the radical right.

They've pretty much given up on the Saudi problem.

Well...that is certainly a problem. I dunno how likely the Saudi population is to, on the whim of the wahhabist elite, embrace ISIS should they come on a holy crusade to take custody of Mecca and Medina and if they did that would be a big fucking problem. But if our politicians are just up to defending the fucks because they see them as a neccessary evil, then it's more understandable.
But I'm not sure if they're right.

Understandable? Sure.

Right? No.

Let's be honest - the Saudis are about to collapse any moment now. The Wahhabist clerics are growing tired of the Saudi monarchy. They view the Saudis bending over the West as the reverse - to them, it's the West bending over them.

And if ISIS gets into Mecca and Medina? It'd be Nanking all over again.

This is why I said this is an utterly manufactured problem. But it was one in the making since FDR cozied up to Ibn Saud.

[The Isolationist State Of Islam]

One Muslim to do something wrong? Do you mean how Muslims commit crime disproportionate to their population, how a vast majority of "refugees" from the Middle East and Western Asia consume welfare, and how they perpetrate once unknown mass-rapes like the ones in Rotterdam and Cologne? Seems like its more than "one Muslim doing something wrong"

Clearly we need to punish all of them for the actions of a handful then.

I care more about the people living in Germany, than the many who come over and rape their women. Then perpetually throwing them into a state of fear, where German schools are banning mini-skirts because their afraid the students will be raped by the refugees, and suggesting that they take different routes to school to avoid the refugees.

[Senegalboy]

well when you talk about muslim. think of how big islam is. nearly 1 in 4 people in the world are muslim and if you blame 1 in 4 people in the world for a few people is that fair

[Dahon]

>trigger

You just have to prove them right, do you

Look, Oswiecim is not a fucking joke. But you already know that, and still people had to say that to get a rise out of people for whom the German version of that name is synonymous with things apart --

-- look, I didn't like it, I still don't like it, dot.

[Zeinbrad]

You know,I've noticed something with those that keep on blaming the Quran and saying its decking proof of whatever opinion about Muslims they have that day-When someone presses them on how the bible and such have similar verses....They say not all Christians follow that and it's up for interpretation, basically.

Yet it never dawns of them that the same thing applies to all religions. Including Islam.

Maybe when reading a religious boo, or any book for that matter. Don't take it literally, think of other interpretations and meanings.Don't go in there looking for something that proves you're right, think critically and creatively.It's how reading works.

[Victoriala]

A handful,

Do you have anything substantive to add?

He's mostly here to laugh at us or something. Keep moving, you're making it dependent on treats.

[Lies and Ignorance]

At what point in this hysteria will we finally acknowledge Islamophobia as a form of racism? What's the line that needs to be crossed? Surely the preponderance of dehumanizing gestures and lurid propaganda counts as evidence of ideological racism.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Clearly we need to punish all of them for the actions of a handful then.

>Handful

What a joke. Islam is evil, as is her followers.

Always chaotic evil, right? You know this means a guiltfree extermination war, right?
...this is just stupid, okay? Stupid.
Fuckin stupid.

germany is a good country and they have nice people but they are believing the media.I watch the news but i can't trust CNN and Fox news and they are just spreading islamophobia and waiting for a muslim to do something wrong.

One Muslim to do something wrong? Do you mean how Muslims commit crime disproportionate to their population, how a vast majority of "refugees" from the Middle East and Western Asia consume welfare, and how they perpetrate once unknown mass-rapes like the ones in Rotterdam and Cologne? Seems like its more than "one Muslim doing something wrong"

Are you willing to abandon the fallacy of guilt by association in your decisionmaking or not?

[Vassenor]

You know,I've noticed something with those that keep on blaming the Quran and saying its decking proof of whatever opinion about Muslims they have that day-When someone presses them on how the bible and such have similar verses....They say not all Christians follow that and it's up for interpretation, basically.

Yet it never dawns of them that the same thing applies to all religions. Including Islam.

Maybe when reading a religious boo, or any book for that matter. Don't take it literally, think of other interpretations and meanings.It's how reading works.

Are you suggesting that Islam is not a monolithic hive mind that compels its followers to rape and murder?

[Conserative Morality]

At what point in this hysteria will we finally acknowledge Islamophobia as a form of racism? What's the line that needs to be crossed? Surely the preponderance of dehumanizing gestures and lurid propaganda counts as evidence of ideological racism.

u cant b rcist aginst uh religon

[Zoice]

You're supposed to fall in line?

Yeh, refugees shouldn't be given priority for housing over natives.

Refugees tend to be in a worse spot than non-refugees. Whoever needs it most should get it.

[Ganos Lao]

You know,I've noticed something with those that keep on blaming the Quran and saying its decking proof of whatever opinion about Muslims they have that day-When someone presses them on how the bible and such have similar verses....They say not all Christians follow that and it's up for interpretation, basically.

Yet it never dawns of them that the same thing applies to all religions. Including Islam.

Maybe when reading a religious boo, or any book for that matter. Don't take it literally, think of other interpretations and meanings.It's how reading works.

I don't recall Jain scripture calling for people's heads or anything.

And then there's the Zoroastrians.

And if one considers it a religion, then there's Confucianism....

Those three, as far as I know, don't have any such verses.

Saying "all religions" seems like one doesn't know all religions. Pretty myopic view.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Playing uno and missed a lot. What happened?

[Ganos Lao]

At what point in this hysteria will we finally acknowledge Islamophobia as a form of racism? What's the line that needs to be crossed? Surely the preponderance of dehumanizing gestures and lurid propaganda counts as evidence of ideological racism.

Islamophobia is racism when Islam is a religion practiced by all races?

Will Christophobia be considered racism, then?

[Zoice]

You know,I've noticed something with those that keep on blaming the Quran and saying its decking proof of whatever opinion about Muslims they have that day-When someone presses them on how the bible and such have similar verses....They say not all Christians follow that and it's up for interpretation, basically.

Yet it never dawns of them that the same thing applies to all religions. Including Islam.

Maybe when reading a religious boo, or any book for that matter. Don't take it literally, think of other interpretations and meanings.Don't go in there looking for something that proves you're right, think critically and creatively.It's how reading works.

NONONONO. When WE do it, that's just different interpretations and sects. When THEY do it, they're fake Muslims and therefore all Muslims are Chaotic Evil. Right?

[Netherlands Mualenia]

At what point in this hysteria will we finally acknowledge Islamophobia as a form of racism? What's the line that needs to be crossed? Surely the preponderance of dehumanizing gestures and lurid propaganda counts as evidence of ideological racism.

Islamophobia is racism when Islam is a religion practiced by all races?

Will Christophobia be considered racism, then?

No, christophobia is encouraged by these scumbags.

[Zoice]

At what point in this hysteria will we finally acknowledge Islamophobia as a form of racism? What's the line that needs to be crossed? Surely the preponderance of dehumanizing gestures and lurid propaganda counts as evidence of ideological racism.

Islamophobia is racism when Islam is a religion practiced by all races?

Will Christophobia be considered racism, then?

It's discrimination comparable to racism.

[Liriena]

Clearly we need to punish all of them for the actions of a handful then.

>Handful

What a joke. Islam is evil, as is her followers.

All 1.6 billion of them?

That's going to need one heck of a citation.

[Senegalboy]

At what point in this hysteria will we finally acknowledge Islamophobia as a form of racism? What's the line that needs to be crossed? Surely the preponderance of dehumanizing gestures and lurid propaganda counts as evidence of ideological racism.

Islamophobia is racism when Islam is a religion practiced by all races?

Will Christophobia be considered racism, then?

any form of prejudice is racism

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Well...that is certainly a problem. I dunno how likely the Saudi population is to, on the whim of the wahhabist elite, embrace ISIS should they come on a holy crusade to take custody of Mecca and Medina and if they did that would be a big fucking problem. But if our politicians are just up to defending the fucks because they see them as a neccessary evil, then it's more understandable.
But I'm not sure if they're right.

Understandable? Sure.

Right? No.

Let's be honest - the Saudis are about to collapse any moment now. The Wahhabist clerics are growing tired of the Saudi monarchy. They view the Saudis bending over the West as the reverse - to them, it's the West bending over them.

And if ISIS gets into Mecca and Medina? It'd be Nanking all over again.

This is why I said this is an utterly manufactured problem. But it was one in the making since FDR cozied up to Ibn Saud.

Well, that's a relief, sort of. It might finally get the world to purge itself of the saudi fuckwaddery without 30 million people being active supporters of Daesh but at a high cost.
And I knew that the Saudis were tottering toward succession crisis, economic crisis, and all sorts of crises but I didn't realize that their strength was as much a fiction as the Soviets' during the late 80s.

Do you have anything substantive to add?

He's mostly here to laugh at us or something. Keep moving, you're making it dependent on treats.

Get out the rhetorical pesticide.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You know,I've noticed something with those that keep on blaming the Quran and saying its decking proof of whatever opinion about Muslims they have that day-When someone presses them on how the bible and such have similar verses....They say not all Christians follow that and it's up for interpretation, basically.

Yet it never dawns of them that the same thing applies to all religions. Including Islam.

Maybe when reading a religious boo, or any book for that matter. Don't take it literally, think of other interpretations and meanings.It's how reading works.

Are you suggesting that Islam is not a monolithic hive mind that compels its followers to rape and murder?

That'd be too rational.

I mean, didn't you know that white people are all a hivemind and thus compelled to agree with the Alt-Right?! Or that Latinos are all drug dealers and smugglers, as well as illegal immigrants?

Whatever am I doing with a citizenship certificate even? I'm just a druggie, rapist, murderer, and smuggler, as well as an illegal immigrant who apparently is also part of the Alt-Right and should support Neo-Nazis. By God, I am the worst of the worst of scum *nods*

[Zeinbrad]

You know,I've noticed something with those that keep on blaming the Quran and saying its decking proof of whatever opinion about Muslims they have that day-When someone presses them on how the bible and such have similar verses....They say not all Christians follow that and it's up for interpretation, basically.

Yet it never dawns of them that the same thing applies to all religions. Including Islam.

Maybe when reading a religious boo, or any book for that matter. Don't take it literally, think of other interpretations and meanings.It's how reading works.

I don't recall Jain scripture calling for people's heads or anything.

And then there's the Zoroastrians.

And if one considers it a religion, then there's Confucianism....

Those three, as far as I know, don't have any such verses.

Saying "all religions" seems like one doesn't know all religions. Pretty myopic view.

I was being general. I do not claim to be a religious scholar nor do I plan to be.

I was fairly certain that there was religions without violent verses, but it wasn't my point. I was more talking about taking things literal and not thinking.

I'm also on a phone.

[Victoriala]

>trigger

You just have to prove them right, do you

Look, Oswiecim is not a fucking joke. But you already know that, and still people had to say that to get a rise out of people for whom the German version of that name is synonymous with things apart --

-- look, I didn't like it, I still don't like it, dot.

Auschwitz is horrible, yes, nazis are bad, yadda yadda, but tbh, I don't think we should get wound up on stuff when we hear stuff like that. It's very counterproductive and well, inhibits us from doing more things in turn.

I mean,

You flip your head and keep moving,
Or let the paranoia haunt you?

Hey, it's baby steps to nirvana too.

You know,I've noticed something with those that keep on blaming the Quran and saying its decking proof of whatever opinion about Muslims they have that day-When someone presses them on how the bible and such have similar verses....They say not all Christians follow that and it's up for interpretation, basically.

Yet it never dawns of them that the same thing applies to all religions. Including Islam.

Maybe when reading a religious boo, or any book for that matter. Don't take it literally, think of other interpretations and meanings.It's how reading works.

Are you suggesting that Islam is not a monolithic hive mind that compels its followers to rape and murder?

The way people follow religion is inconsistent from person to person it seems