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Postby Neutraligon » Sun May 01, 2016 11:19 am

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So basically you want them to stop using their free speech (as you call it). The people are still free to make the movie, and people are still free to complain about it. Since the movie industry needs people to attend those films to make money, of course they pay attention to what people are saying.


ah.

first point withdrawn but my feeling still stands, dont like it dont see it.


I agree don't like it don't see it. Seems to me that it is better for the industry to face the backlash now, since it means they will not waste time on a movie that won't make them money. They might still produce it, but for less money. Or they might decide that people dislike the idea enough that the film will not make enough money and decide not to produce it at all. Both would be good business responses to what we are seeing.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 01, 2016 11:20 am

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Unless you're solely referring to environmentalism, I challenge you to give one other example to substantiate that bold claim.


Anything to do with LGBT.


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Postby Shaggy Dog Story » Sun May 01, 2016 11:20 am

What is it the kids are saying these days? I see what you did there?

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Postby The balkens » Sun May 01, 2016 11:21 am

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ah.

first point withdrawn but my feeling still stands, dont like it dont see it.


I agree don't like it don't see it. Seems to me that it is better for the industry to face the backlash now, since it means they will not waste time on a movie that won't make them money. They might still produce it, but for less money. Or they might decide that people dislike the idea enough that the film will not make enough money and decide not to produce it at all. Both would be good business responses to what we are seeing.


Which more or less brings me to my personal feeling that outrage culture has grown out of control.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun May 01, 2016 11:21 am

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Imperializt Russia wrote:Modern conservatism is garbage compared to conservatism about fifty years ago.

And "doesn't lend itself well" does not mean "it is completely impossible to". It happened. It doesn't seem to happen anymore, according to you.

Well were they conservative back then or were they not?

Most actors back then were conservative baby...by your logic at least half would be liberal or moderate...

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Postby Shaggy Dog Story » Sun May 01, 2016 11:21 am

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Imperializt Russia wrote:Oh please, modern mainstream conservatism is basically defined by refusal to change opinions no matter how many experts tell you you're wrong.


Unless you're solely referring to environmentalism, I challenge you to give one other example to substantiate that bold claim.

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Postby Liriena » Sun May 01, 2016 11:25 am

Merizoc wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/movies/will-ferrell-walks-away-controversial-reagan-project-n564976

Before it even went into production, a planned satire of Ronald Reagan to be produced by and starring Will Ferrell inspired an outpouring of criticism from conservatives and members of the former president's family.

And by Friday, according to The New York Post, the actor backed out of the project.

According to Variety, the still-untitled project is based on a script from Hollywood's legendary "Black List," an annual collection of the most popular, yet-to-be produced screenplays in the industry.

The film, if it goes forward without Ferrell, will almost surely stoke controversy because its plot purportedly portrays Reagan as suffering from dementia while he was still in office.

"The REAGAN script is one of a number of scripts that had been submitted to Will Ferrell which he had considered. While it is by no means a 'Alzheimer's comedy' as has been suggested, Mr. Ferrell is not pursuing this project," a spokesperson for the actor told the Post on Friday.

MSNBC has reached out to Will Ferrell's production company, Gary Sanchez Productions, which was reportedly developing the film, for comment but has not heard back at this time.

Reagan went public with his Alzheimer's diagnosis in 1994, and while there has long been speculation about his state of mind during his second term in office, there has never been any hard evidence that he suffered from Alzheimer's while president.

Condemnation of the film project came swiftly, and not surprisingly the loudest objections came from right-wing circles — not only because of Ferrell's participation (the "Anchorman" star is a supporter of Democratic candidates and causes, and has a history of sneaking subversive progressive messages into his mainstream comedies), but also because of the potential insensitivity to the health of the former president.


I'm sick and tired of the PC, SJW-types shutting down free speech because they're offended. It's so absurdly moralistic. So what if some stuff is a bit out there, that's the beauty of free speech. These people are just regressive authoritarians who want to ban things they disagree with. Why should we let them? They don't have a right to not be offended. What do you think of this absurd PC bullshit?

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Postby The balkens » Sun May 01, 2016 11:27 am

Liriena wrote:
Merizoc wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/movies/will-ferrell-walks-away-controversial-reagan-project-n564976



I'm sick and tired of the PC, SJW-types shutting down free speech because they're offended. It's so absurdly moralistic. So what if some stuff is a bit out there, that's the beauty of free speech. These people are just regressive authoritarians who want to ban things they disagree with. Why should we let them? They don't have a right to not be offended. What do you think of this absurd PC bullshit?

I love you. :p


Would you be angry if the ghost busters remake was shut down?

Because i find that film to be demonstrably offensive.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 01, 2016 11:28 am

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Liriena wrote:I love you. :p


Would you be angry if the ghost busters remake was shut down?

Because i find that film to be demonstrably offensive.


So do I, it looks awful :?
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Postby Yorkers » Sun May 01, 2016 11:29 am

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Liriena wrote:I love you. :p


Would you be angry if the ghost busters remake was shut down?

Because i find that film to be demonstrably offensive.


If you really wanted to act like an SJW, you'd not only shut down the Ghost Busters remake, but utterly harass the produces into oblivion and make sure that they can never find employment again and hound them out of the industry. That's how you really fight for #progress.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 01, 2016 11:30 am

Yorkers wrote:
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Would you be angry if the ghost busters remake was shut down?

Because i find that film to be demonstrably offensive.


If you really wanted to act like an SJW, you'd not only shut down the Ghost Busters remake, but utterly harass the produces into oblivion and make sure that they can never find employment again and hound them out of the industry. That's how you really fight for #progress.


Which producer has been kicked out of Hollywood by SJWs?
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun May 01, 2016 11:30 am

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I agree don't like it don't see it. Seems to me that it is better for the industry to face the backlash now, since it means they will not waste time on a movie that won't make them money. They might still produce it, but for less money. Or they might decide that people dislike the idea enough that the film will not make enough money and decide not to produce it at all. Both would be good business responses to what we are seeing.


Which more or less brings me to my personal feeling that outrage culture has grown out of control.


I honestly doubt it is much different then previous years. It's just that they can get slightly more attention do to mass media and the net.
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Postby The balkens » Sun May 01, 2016 11:31 am

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Would you be angry if the ghost busters remake was shut down?

Because i find that film to be demonstrably offensive.


If you really wanted to act like an SJW, you'd not only shut down the Ghost Busters remake, but utterly harass the produces into oblivion and make sure that they can never find employment again and hound them out of the industry. That's how you really fight for #progress.


If you measure progress with how many lives you hurt, you have no right to label yourself a progressive.

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Postby The balkens » Sun May 01, 2016 11:33 am

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If you really wanted to act like an SJW, you'd not only shut down the Ghost Busters remake, but utterly harass the produces into oblivion and make sure that they can never find employment again and hound them out of the industry. That's how you really fight for #progress.


Which producer has been kicked out of Hollywood by SJWs?


Not really Hollywood per se (i think) but this has happened on youtube in some famous cases. That reddit clusterfuck some years ago comes to mind.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun May 01, 2016 11:33 am

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Yorkers wrote:
If you really wanted to act like an SJW, you'd not only shut down the Ghost Busters remake, but utterly harass the produces into oblivion and make sure that they can never find employment again and hound them out of the industry. That's how you really fight for #progress.


If you measure progress with how many lives you hurt, you have no right to label yourself a progressive.

Of course not, that's fiscal conservatism.
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Postby Yorkers » Sun May 01, 2016 11:33 am

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If you really wanted to act like an SJW, you'd not only shut down the Ghost Busters remake, but utterly harass the producers into oblivion and make sure that they can never find employment again and hound them out of the industry. That's how you really fight for #progress.


Which producer has been kicked out of Hollywood by SJWs?


Well Mel Gibson for starters, but was talking generally. SJWs are responsible for many people being kicked out of their industries.
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Postby The balkens » Sun May 01, 2016 11:34 am

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Which producer has been kicked out of Hollywood by SJWs?


Well Mel Gibson for starters, but was talking generally. SJWs are responsible for many people being kicked out of their industries.


Mel gibson?

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Postby The balkens » Sun May 01, 2016 11:35 am

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If you measure progress with how many lives you hurt, you have no right to label yourself a progressive.

Of course not, that's fiscal conservatism.


or just plain retardation of a political ideology.

Oh ha, i get it. That was a play on people who disagree with you.
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Well Mel Gibson for starters, but was talking generally. SJWs are responsible for many people being kicked out of their industries.


Mel gibson?


He's been basically kicked out of Hollywood, unofficially.
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Mel gibson?


He's been basically kicked out of Hollywood, unofficially.


Due to that phone thing?

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Postby Liriena » Sun May 01, 2016 11:36 am

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Would you be angry if the ghost busters remake was shut down?

Because i find that film to be demonstrably offensive.

Since the remake looks pretty crappy, regardless of the gender issues, I don't think I'd care either way.
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Postby The balkens » Sun May 01, 2016 11:37 am

Liriena wrote:
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Would you be angry if the ghost busters remake was shut down?

Because i find that film to be demonstrably offensive.

Since the remake looks pretty crappy, regardless of the gender issues, I don't think I'd care either way.


if maybe perhaps they had a original story line with a better cast (i dont like Melissa McCarthy) instead of just GIRL POWER!!!111, then i'd be fine with it.
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Postby Liriena » Sun May 01, 2016 11:42 am

Frank Zipper wrote:Let's face it, who would actually pay to go and see a Will Ferrell film?

*gasp* How dare you?
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Postby The balkens » Sun May 01, 2016 11:44 am

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Frank Zipper wrote:Let's face it, who would actually pay to go and see a Will Ferrell film?

*gasp* How dare you?


i'd kill to see old school again.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun May 01, 2016 11:44 am

Yorkers wrote:
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Mel gibson?


He's been basically kicked out of Hollywood, unofficially.


Yeah but Mel kind of worked at it. He did survive the incidents of the anti-gay stuff and the anti-Semitic stuff. The DUI and the Anti-Semitic tirade and the abuse incidents gave him the unoffical boot then add in his religion plans.....

A shame really. A good director.....
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