by G-Max » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:38 pm
by The New Sea Territory » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:41 pm
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by G-Max » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:45 pm
The New Sea Territory wrote:You mean "Conservative Youth and Conspiracy Theorists" or "Market Anarchists who tap dance in their defense of private property"?
by The New Sea Territory » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:47 pm
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Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore
by Washington Resistance Army » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:59 pm
by The New Sea Territory » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:17 pm
Anarchists claim to be libertarian, but aren't.
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Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore
by The Liberated Territories » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:30 pm
by The New Sea Territory » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:35 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Ah, NST, I see you are spouting fallacies as usual I see. Perhaps you'll become a true scotsman one day enough. But don't touch that etymological fallacy, that's sharp as glass.
G-Max wrote:Anarchists claim to be libertarian, but aren't.
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Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore
by Conscentia » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:36 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Ah, NST, I see you are spouting fallacies as usual I see. Perhaps you'll become a true scotsman one day enough. But don't touch that etymological fallacy, that's sharp as glass.
On topic: I'm rooting for Johnson, but I wouldn't mind McAfee. I think McAfee's money could probably be put into good use for the party, maybe like a Crane-Clark type political ad that will gain the LP another 1%, maybe.
EDIT: If the mods lock this thread, I'll create us a good Libertarian Discussion Thread, with a poll and shit.
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by The Liberated Territories » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:37 pm
The New Sea Territory wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:Ah, NST, I see you are spouting fallacies as usual I see. Perhaps you'll become a true scotsman one day enough. But don't touch that etymological fallacy, that's sharp as glass.
My link was not a claim to the term, but evidence that his claim is both logically fallacious and historically incorrect.G-Max wrote:Anarchists claim to be libertarian, but aren't.
But it's easier for you to just label my criticism as a "fallacy".
by The Liberated Territories » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:40 pm
Conscentia wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:Ah, NST, I see you are spouting fallacies as usual I see. Perhaps you'll become a true scotsman one day enough. But don't touch that etymological fallacy, that's sharp as glass.
On topic: I'm rooting for Johnson, but I wouldn't mind McAfee. I think McAfee's money could probably be put into good use for the party, maybe like a Crane-Clark type political ad that will gain the LP another 1%, maybe.
EDIT: If the mods lock this thread, I'll create us a good Libertarian Discussion Thread, with a poll and shit.
It's unnecessary. The left and right discussion threads cover left-libertarianism and right-libertarianism respectively. The moderators have previously said they'd prefer rather there not be an abundance of X Discussion Threads.
by Conscentia » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:45 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Conscentia wrote:It's unnecessary. The left and right discussion threads cover left-libertarianism and right-libertarianism respectively. The moderators have previously said they'd prefer rather there not be an abundance of X Discussion Threads.
Unsure. I don't think libertarian(s) such as myself find any more agreement with Stalinists and Maoists on the left than High Monarchists, Fascists, and Theocrats on the right. I think right- and left- libertarians find more agreement with each other than most ideologies in those threads. But if the mods say so then I can't do much about it. (Still got the Third-Party thread.)
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by The Liberated Territories » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:49 pm
Conscentia wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:Unsure. I don't think libertarian(s) such as myself find any more agreement with Stalinists and Maoists on the left than High Monarchists, Fascists, and Theocrats on the right. I think right- and left- libertarians find more agreement with each other than most ideologies in those threads. But if the mods say so then I can't do much about it. (Still got the Third-Party thread.)
The LWDT has more left-libertarians on it than Stalinists and Maosists. As for the RWDT, it's your right-libertarians' own faults for not posting there.
If the mods allow it, here's my prediction of what it'd become: Just be left- and right- libertarians arguing over whether the other counts as libertarians, then the thread would die once everyone got bored of that.
by Fenexia and holochrome » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:26 am
The New Sea Territory wrote:You mean "Conservative Youth and Conspiracy Theorists" or "Market Anarchists who tap dance in their defense of private property"?
Because those would go in the Right and Left Wing discussion threads, respectively.
by Kanzaki Ranko » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:29 am
by Aclion » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:32 am
Conscentia wrote:The left and right discussion threads cover left-libertarianism and right-libertarianism respectively.
Lethamyr wrote:I'm a libertarian, nationalist and capitalist. I believe it's necessary to have a strong and modern military, and I would give my life for my country and race. I'm also a devout Catholic, and believe the church should play a role in politics.
The Liberated Territories wrote:I don't see why it would be impermissible to restart that.
by Mattopilos » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:34 am
Kanzaki Ranko wrote:I think a libertarian thread would be enjoyable. I'm not one myself, but I prefer them to most of the other common groups on this site.
I like reading libertarian discussions, but I don't really feel like weeding through the other nonsense to find them in the more general threads.
by Mattopilos » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:35 am
by Conscentia » Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:23 am
Aclion wrote:Conscentia wrote:The left and right discussion threads cover left-libertarianism and right-libertarianism respectively.
Ah yes the "right wing" discussion thread with such gems asLethamyr wrote:I'm a libertarian, nationalist and capitalist. I believe it's necessary to have a strong and modern military, and I would give my life for my country and race. I'm also a devout Catholic, and believe the church should play a role in politics.
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by Aclion » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:46 am
Conscentia wrote:Just because you don't agree with them doesn't make them not right-wing. Leftists have some major disagreements between each other as well. The left and right are both very broad categories.
Conscentia wrote:1. A lot of liberals are right-wing. It's only in America where liberals are assumed to be left-wing.
Conscentia wrote:Discussion threads aren't supposed to be echo chambers. You're not supposed to agree with the other people there. If you agree, there's very little to discuss. If you don't agree with the monarchists and fascists then argue back.
by Conscentia » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:59 am
Aclion wrote:Conscentia wrote:Just because you don't agree with them doesn't make them not right-wing. Leftists have some major disagreements between each other as well. The left and right are both very broad categories.
But the fact that we barely agree on anything does make the grouping meaningless.
An argument is just a discussion between people who disagree. On NSG discussions between people who agree have proven to not last very long - threads based on them usually die before reaching 100 pages.Aclion wrote:Conscentia wrote:Discussion threads aren't supposed to be echo chambers. You're not supposed to agree with the other people there. If you agree, there's very little to discuss. If you don't agree with the monarchists and fascists then argue back.
By that reasoning the left and right wing threads should be merged to facilitate... arguments... Wait, why do we want arguments? I came here for discussion, not argument!
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by Aclion » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:01 am
Conscentia wrote:You're more likely to agree with them on economic matters than the libertarian left.
Conscentia wrote:The only reason the right-libertarian thread is dominated by the authoritarian right is because the libertarian right refuses to participate.
Conscentia wrote:I don't. That definition is ahistorical, and obviously biased.
Conscentia wrote:An argument is just a discussion between people who disagree.
by 6Marion9 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:12 am
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