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Postby GangGangland » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:17 pm

Liriena wrote:
GangGangland wrote:They shouldnt have been able to turn to a man anyways. thats the problem here. is letting them do whatever they want. Next thing you know you all are going to be defending child rapists because "they couldnt help it, its how they were born" disgusting

Cute.

Its the same thing isnt it? They were born that way so who are we to tell them what they can and cant do? You have no argument against it
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:17 pm

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GangGangland wrote:They shouldnt have been able to turn to a man anyways. thats the problem here. is letting them do whatever they want. Next thing you know you all are going to be defending child rapists because "they couldnt help it, its how they were born" disgusting

Your idiotic slippery slope bullshit impresses nobody.
And luckily we live in a free society not the totalitarian hellhole you wish it was so people can do whatever they want with their own bodies.


We don't really live in a free society, but okay.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:18 pm

GangGangland wrote:
Liriena wrote:Cute.

Its the same thing isnt it? They were born that way so who are we to tell them what they can and cant do? You have no argument against it


And what gives you the right to tell me how to live my life?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:19 pm

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I believe other people have.

However, I think that most people who do business with NC want is the total repeal of it.


That is the more logical alternative. Scrap the bill entirely.


To be honest, this is the kind of shit that makes me wish for a more centralized, authoritarian power in the Federal government and strip certain states of their rights.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:19 pm

North Carolina tries to one up South Carolina for most bigoted Carolina. News at 11.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:20 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:News at 11.


...We just had that argument.
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:20 pm

GangGangland wrote:
Liriena wrote:Cute.

Its the same thing isnt it? They were born that way so who are we to tell them what they can and cant do? You have no argument against it

Except for the vital factors of consent and adulthood. :roll:
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:20 pm

GangGangland wrote:
Liriena wrote:Cute.

Its the same thing isnt it? They were born that way so who are we to tell them what they can and cant do? You have no argument against it


Yes, they do.

Transgender people are harming nobody by being transgender. Child molesters on the other hand are molesting a child, or harming someone else.

If you can point out to me one thing a transgender person has ever done to you that is specific to them being transgender I might change my mind about how I feel about your idiotic comparison.
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Postby GangGangland » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:20 pm

Vassenor wrote:
GangGangland wrote:Its the same thing isnt it? They were born that way so who are we to tell them what they can and cant do? You have no argument against it


And what gives you the right to tell me how to live my life?

Im saying that that logic is wrong. we should be able to tell people how to live their life. To an extent of course. Your logic allows people to rape dogs and fuck small children. you are wrong.
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Postby The balkens » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:20 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
That is the more logical alternative. Scrap the bill entirely.


To be honest, this is the kind of shit that makes me wish for a more centralized, authoritarian power in the Federal government and strip certain states of their rights.


Ah ha..hahah.

No.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:21 pm

GangGangland wrote:
Liriena wrote:Cute.

Its the same thing isnt it? They were born that way so who are we to tell them what they can and cant do? You have no argument against it

Bodily sovereignty is a fundamental right. Nobody is harmed in proper SRS. Rape is an active violation of bodily sovereignty and harms innocents. This law resembles rape more than SRS.
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Postby Big Brain City » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:21 pm

GangGangland wrote:
Big Brain City wrote:Our legislators should be worried about that if they want to protect "rlll wimminz!1!"
but no they want to protect their inaccurate model of gender identity so they let that bullshit slide unless they know the (as far as it can be seen) truth.

There is no gender identity. Just male and female. you are born that way

Gender identity exists and is determined before birth. Likely through hormonal influences in the brain I'd wager, otherwise there would be no such thing as transgender people except through aneuploidy or other chromosomal abnormalities. Male and female are adjectives that describe both sex and gender.
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So you're fine with this person being forced to use the women's toilets.

They shouldnt have been able to turn to a man anyways. thats the problem here. is letting them do whatever they want. Next thing you know you all are going to be defending child rapists because "they couldnt help it, its how they were born" disgusting

Why are you bringing up kiddie rapists when we're talking about transgender people? They're not comparable.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:21 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
That is the more logical alternative. Scrap the bill entirely.


To be honest, this is the kind of shit that makes me wish for a more centralized, authoritarian power in the Federal government and strip certain states of their rights.


I can't say I do not understand the feeling but rights and all... however, we cannot lose sight that this bill is also a violation of rights against people who are LGBT and NC's government is being a bastion of prejudice. Wallowing in ignorance.

I would like to say that this surprises me, but it doesn't.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:21 pm

GangGangland wrote:Your logic allows people to rape dogs and fuck small children


[citation needed]
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:22 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:News at 11.


...We just had that argument.

Vassenor expects me to read 95 pages of discussion about North Carolina. News at 8.
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:22 pm


Maybe North Carolinians are just naturally more dangerous. What can you do? It's how they were born.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:23 pm

GangGangland wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And what gives you the right to tell me how to live my life?

Im saying that that logic is wrong. we should be able to tell people how to live their life. To an extent of course. Your logic allows people to rape dogs and fuck small children. you are wrong.


What the hell?

How does allowing transgender people to, you know, transgender, mean that we're allowing people to rape dogs and fuck small children?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:23 pm

GangGangland wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So you're fine with this person being forced to use the women's toilets.

They shouldnt have been able to turn to a man anyways. thats the problem here. is letting them do whatever they want. Next thing you know you all are going to be defending child rapists because "they couldnt help it, its how they were born" disgusting


Kind of like conservatives should be able to have lynchings again since that is their cultural history.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:24 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
...We just had that argument.

Vassenor expects me to read 95 pages of discussion about North Carolina. News at 8.


It was less than an hour ago.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:25 pm

GangGangland wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And what gives you the right to tell me how to live my life?

Im saying that that logic is wrong. To an extent of course. Your logic allows people to rape dogs and fuck small children. you are wrong.


The rape "logic" is only yours. People aren't arguing for that.

But I am curious: "we should be able to tell people how to live their life."

Explain.
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Postby Big Brain City » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:25 pm

GangGangland wrote:
Liriena wrote:Cute.

Its the same thing isnt it? They were born that way so who are we to tell them what they can and cant do? You have no argument against it

We can determine their behavior if it harms others. Nobody here has proposed that the right to freedom of action includes the freedom to harm or oppress others.
GangGangland wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And what gives you the right to tell me how to live my life?

Im saying that that logic is wrong. we should be able to tell people how to live their life. To an extent of course. Your logic allows people to rape dogs and fuck small children. you are wrong.

I'm sorry, but I don't see how our logic leads to bestiality and child abuse.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:25 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
GangGangland wrote:Im saying that that logic is wrong. we should be able to tell people how to live their life. To an extent of course. Your logic allows people to rape dogs and fuck small children. you are wrong.


What the hell?

How does allowing transgender people to, you know, transgender, mean that we're allowing people to rape dogs and fuck small children?


This sounds like some of the high grade bullshit I've heard a few religious leaders in the South say. Go figure.

This denotes a huge ignorance on who transgender people are and what exactly it is they need and want.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:26 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Vassenor expects me to read 95 pages of discussion about North Carolina. News at 8.


It was less than an hour ago.

Vassenor fails to recognize that fucks are not given. Threadjack at 5.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:26 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
What the hell?

How does allowing transgender people to, you know, transgender, mean that we're allowing people to rape dogs and fuck small children?


This sounds like some of the high grade bullshit I've heard a few religious leaders in the South say. Go figure.

This denotes a huge ignorance on who transgender people are and what exactly it is they need and want.


Or that means certain people have really fucked up fantasies which they jack off to at night.

The notion that transgender people are contributing to a slippery slope of pederasty and zoophilia can't be anything but projection.
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