by Sygian » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:23 am
by Sygian » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:06 am
Zacherie wrote:In my opinion, given what's been taking place in relation to scripts, any tool produced by a DoS player should be considered illegal.
by NOrTh pAcIfiC spY » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:26 pm
by Ballotonia » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:10 am
Sygian wrote:Just out of curiosity. I may have missed it, but I've looked everywhere. Due to recent events involving Predator, is Halcones' ELITE excel tool still legal to use?
I haven't used it since the Predator issue, and I don't plan on using it. I encourage those who have ELITE to not trust Halcones or his mischievous tools.
Have the mods declared it legal/illegal yet? If so, could you link me to it?
by Sygian » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:30 am
Ballotonia wrote:Sygian wrote:Just out of curiosity. I may have missed it, but I've looked everywhere. Due to recent events involving Predator, is Halcones' ELITE excel tool still legal to use?
I haven't used it since the Predator issue, and I don't plan on using it. I encourage those who have ELITE to not trust Halcones or his mischievous tools.
Have the mods declared it legal/illegal yet? If so, could you link me to it?
I'm not familiar with that tool. Keep in mind that you as user of any tool are responsible for evaluating its legality.
Since you call it an 'excel tool' however I'll say this: it is legal to use a tool where you input the regional XML data dump(s) and perhaps manually add some other information (like the end time of the last update) and let the excel sheet calculate regional update times. Since that doesn't use the API feed or scrapes HTML pages, there would be no user agent or rate limit to deal with.
Also good to know: coordinating with a DoS (Delete on Sight) user to let them indirectly (through you) play the game (by for instance influencing the game with ANY tool) by providing that user with feedback on the tool so he/she can improve upon it, is illegal. You'd be helping a DoS user to play NationStates, and thus circumventing the NS moderation system. Just like we block IPs of DoS users as needed if they use proxies, you'd also risk DoS for yourself since then you'd be the intermediary.
Ballotonia
by Crushing Our Enemies » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:57 am
by Sygian » Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:45 am
Crushing Our Enemies wrote:I haven't used elite either, but as I understand it, it uses more information than just the daily dump and user-input. It has macros that make calls to the site, I think.
by Crushing Our Enemies » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:04 am
by Sygian » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:44 am
Crushing Our Enemies wrote:So there's a chance that it works very similarly to predator.
by Gest II » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:48 am
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