Unhealthy2 wrote:If they follow her advice then they're much less likely to get AIDS.
1) Condoms exist. They work well.
The HIV virus is small enough to get through the rubber of the condom plus condoms break.
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by Kreanoltha » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:52 pm
Unhealthy2 wrote:If they follow her advice then they're much less likely to get AIDS.
1) Condoms exist. They work well.
by You-Gi-Owe » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:54 pm
Quelesh wrote:This is from World Net Daily, a "publication" to which I give no credence whatsoever. I don't believe a single thing they say.
by Unhealthy2 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:57 pm
Gordonopia wrote:Just another example of the double-standard of "tolerance". Christians have to sit down and shut up about there beliefs or they are "intolerant" and "bigoted" while homosexuals can shove their immoral lifestyle choices down everyone's throat and they are "inclusive" and "celebrating diversity". HA!
by Marcurix » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:58 pm
by Bramborska » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:58 pm
by Barringtonia » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:00 pm
by Jimanistan » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:00 pm
by Kreanoltha » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:01 pm
Unhealthy2 wrote:Gordonopia wrote:Just another example of the double-standard of "tolerance". Christians have to sit down and shut up about there beliefs or they are "intolerant" and "bigoted" while homosexuals can shove their immoral lifestyle choices down everyone's throat and they are "inclusive" and "celebrating diversity". HA!
1) There's no double standard because there's no equivalence between homosexuality and Christianity. One is clearly an idea that you choose to accept by choosing to neglect epistemology. The other is related in a very involuntary manner to brain wiring and chemistry. In other words, unlike being involuntary sexual attraction, Christianity really is a choice.
2) How are homosexuals "shoving" their lifestyle upon you? Are they trying to force you to be gay? Are they trying to outlaw straight marriage? Are the Texas Republicans considering passing laws against heterosexual intercourse? Oh wait no, that's all shit many heterosexuals are trying to do to gays. Projection much?
3) Blanket tolerance is stupid. Only certain things should be tolerated, and the tolerance for each can be justified rationally.
by Unhealthy2 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:02 pm
Kreanoltha wrote:The HIV virus is small enough to get through the rubber of the condom plus condoms break.
by Barringtonia » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:02 pm
Jimanistan wrote:Referring to the story linked by the OP specifically, I don't think school administrators have any right to expel students for being ignorant.
by You-Gi-Owe » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:02 pm
Jimanistan wrote:Referring to the story linked by the OP specifically, I don't think school administrators have any right to expel students for being ignorant.
More generally, I suppose what the student says/does matters far more than what they believe. If they are spouting anti-gay rhetoric or harassing homosexual students, then maybe some sort of discipline would be called for...
by Bramborska » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:02 pm
Jimanistan wrote:Referring to the story linked by the OP specifically, I don't think school administrators have any right to expel students for being ignorant.
More generally, I suppose what the student says/does matters far more than what they believe. If they are spouting anti-gay rhetoric or harassing homosexual students, then maybe some sort of discipline would be called for...
by Lacadaemon » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:03 pm
by Kreanoltha » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:04 pm
Jimanistan wrote:Referring to the story linked by the OP specifically, I don't think school administrators have any right to expel students for being ignorant.
More generally, I suppose what the student says/does matters far more than what they believe. If they are spouting anti-gay rhetoric or harassing homosexual students, then maybe some sort of discipline would be called for...
by Kreanoltha » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:06 pm
Barringtonia wrote:They didn't, they're not allowing her to complete a course in counseling where she does not accept homosexuality as anything but a sinful choice nor will she provide unbiased advice on abortions.
Essentially, those disqualify her from being a counsellor, and rightly so.
by Conserative Morality » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:07 pm
Kreanoltha wrote:I'd imagine that the majority of people would have a hard time with that.
by Gordonopia » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:07 pm
Unhealthy2 wrote:Gordonopia wrote:Just another example of the double-standard of "tolerance". Christians have to sit down and shut up about there beliefs or they are "intolerant" and "bigoted" while homosexuals can shove their immoral lifestyle choices down everyone's throat and they are "inclusive" and "celebrating diversity". HA!
1) There's no double standard because there's no equivalence between homosexuality and Christianity. One is clearly an idea that you choose to accept by choosing to neglect epistemology. The other is related in a very involuntary manner to brain wiring and chemistry. In other words, unlike being involuntary sexual attraction, Christianity really is a choice.
2) How are homosexuals "shoving" their lifestyle upon you? Are they trying to force you to be gay? Are they trying to outlaw straight marriage? Are the Texas Republicans considering passing laws against heterosexual intercourse? Oh wait no, that's all shit many heterosexuals are trying to do to gays. Projection much?
3) Blanket tolerance is stupid. Only certain things should be tolerated, and the tolerance for each can be justified rationally.
by Jimanistan » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:08 pm
Kreanoltha wrote:But she wasn't. She was just saying, and I agree, that homosexuality is a choice instead of a problem with neuro-chemical connections. That's a far cry from beating gays don't you think?
by Unhealthy2 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:09 pm
Bramborska wrote:Not all Christians are as fervent about spreading and converting others to their faith as atheists are.
I imagine that there's a far cry between saying "I'd rather not interact with homosexuals in my professional/personal life" and "I think I'm going to a re-education camp and start psychologically destroying homosexuals."
Equally, there's a far cry between talking about what could happen, and what has happened.
by Bramborska » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:09 pm
by Conserative Morality » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:09 pm
Gordonopia wrote:1) Really? I'm sorry to burst your little PC bubble, but homosexuality really is a choice. Individuals choose the behavior that they are going to engage in and with whom. I know that this is a common liberal talking point, but it really is not valid.
by Caninope » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:09 pm
Barringtonia wrote:Jimanistan wrote:Referring to the story linked by the OP specifically, I don't think school administrators have any right to expel students for being ignorant.
They didn't, they're not allowing her to complete a course in counseling where she does not accept homosexuality as anything but a sinful choice nor will she provide unbiased advice on abortions.
Essentially, those disqualify her from being a counsellor, and rightly so.
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.
by Kreanoltha » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:10 pm
Gordonopia wrote:1) Really? I'm sorry to burst your little PC bubble, but homosexuality really is a choice. Individuals choose the behavior that they are going to engage in and with whom. I know that this is a common liberal talking point, but it really is not valid.
2) Gays are pushing there agenda in all areas of public life, especially in public schools and in the political arena. There are numerous examples of schools celebrating the homosexual lifestyle and attempting to indoctrinate kids into believing that homosexuality is just as normal and fulfilling as heterosexuality. In American culture today, Christianity is being scrubbed from the public sector because of bogus Establishment Clause claims and is being replaced with the not so values neutral teachings of Secular Humanism and Postmodernism. If you don't support homosexuality, you are labeled as "bigoted" and "ignorant". That is how homosexuals are forcing their lifestlye down everyone's throat.
3) True. But it doesn't make it right.
by Conserative Morality » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:10 pm
Bramborska wrote:The majority of people don't go to local community colleges.
by Barringtonia » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:11 pm
Jennifer Keeton wants to be a school counselor. But she doesn't want to work with gay people unless she can convert them.
And now she's suing for the right to be let loose into the world as a renegade social worker rescuing those gays.
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