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by Salandriagado » Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:59 pm
by Charellia » Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:59 pm
Jochistan wrote:>practically the entire thread praising Trump
The liberal bias of NSG strikes again.
Why Canada? It probably has just as many problems.
by Novorobo » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:01 pm
District XIV wrote:Just like all those people that said they would move if Obama was elected?
I'll bet the vast majority of these people won't move.
Socialist Nordia wrote:Oh shit, let's hope we don't have to take in any /pol/ refugees.
by Jochistan » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:06 pm
by District XIV » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:17 pm
by Novorobo » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:11 pm
District XIV wrote:Novorobo wrote:Utterly meaningless comparison. This is a different candidate, disliked for different reasons, in a different year.
Your point makes no sense. Yes, different candidate, but strongly disliked by some - and the different year doesn't influence anything at all. My point is that people in 2008 and 2012 declared that if Obama was elected/reelected then they would move, and the vast majority, I assume, did not actually follow through with this. It's a perfectly fair comparison, but I guess if you hate Trump this much then logic is completely out of the picture.
Socialist Nordia wrote:Oh shit, let's hope we don't have to take in any /pol/ refugees.
by Jochistan » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:20 pm
Arkiasis wrote:Maybe we should build a wall.
by Drawkland » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:40 pm
Novorobo wrote:ISAF-Usea wrote:I know that the media and certain organizations are doing so but the GENERAL PUBLIC isn't really doing much to stop Trump or turn Trump supporters. If the anti-trump percent of the general public launched an ALL OUT anti-Trump campaign they could probably turn the entire race upside down.
And what if the portion of the public that's willing to move to Canada over this isn't significant enough to sway the election result?
United Dalaran wrote:Goddammit, comrade. I just knew that someday some wild, capitalist, imperialist interstellar empire will swallow our country.CN on the RMB wrote:drawkland's leader has survived so many assassination attempts that I am fairly certain he is fidel castro in disguise
by Fanosolia » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:50 pm
Jochistan wrote:>practically the entire thread praising Trump
The liberal bias of NSG strikes again.
Why Canada? It probably has just as many problems.
by Novorobo » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:50 pm
Drawkland wrote:And although this would not be feasible, ideally they would be barred from returning.
I mean, if you can't handle the country at its "worst," then you shouldn't be able to reap it at its "best."
A metaphor: I'm in my school's marching band, and perhaps the most useless and deadweighted members are the band are the ones that only stick around for trips. The most absolutely aggravating thing I witnessed was the sheer volume of students who didn't participate in 2013 or 2015, but suddenly showed up in the 2014 season because we went to the Macy's Parade that year. It feels unfair; if you want to have the right to contribute, you shouldn't dart in and out whenever you feel like the situation will benefit you the most. It's unfair to the people who stick around and kind of selfish and irresilient.
Fanosolia wrote:Jochistan wrote:>practically the entire thread praising Trump
The liberal bias of NSG strikes again.
Why Canada? It probably has just as many problems.
because for some daft reason people think we're amazing because of A FEW things we have over the US. The key word being FEW. that being universal healthcare (which while I like it, it has its problems),
gay marriage (which now every state technically has now), Stronger beer (or so I'm told), tighter on guns laws (though that depends on who you are really if that's a good thing), and I guess whatever UN peacekeeping rep we have. In reality we're the US with SOME perks, and less middle man levels of government. Both in politics and in the population.
Don't get me wrong I love where I live, but I hate how, like with any country, people praise it to the point of idolizing it very creepily.
Socialist Nordia wrote:Oh shit, let's hope we don't have to take in any /pol/ refugees.
by The Morning Calm » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:52 pm
by Fanosolia » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:54 pm
Arkiasis wrote:Maybe we should build a wall.
by Outer Sparta » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:56 pm
The Morning Calm wrote:It'd be funny if Mexico built a wall to stop influxes of Americans fleeing Trump.
Trump would have actually gotten Mexico to pay for the wall.
by District XIV » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:01 pm
Novorobo wrote:District XIV wrote:Your point makes no sense. Yes, different candidate, but strongly disliked by some - and the different year doesn't influence anything at all. My point is that people in 2008 and 2012 declared that if Obama was elected/reelected then they would move, and the vast majority, I assume, did not actually follow through with this. It's a perfectly fair comparison, but I guess if you hate Trump this much then logic is completely out of the picture.
If it isn't a meaningful comparison, what the hell is it supposed to mean? Your point about the similarities is arbitrary without at least some vague idea/form/notion of cause and effect.
by The Black Forrest » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:03 pm
by Jordkloden » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:05 pm
by Novorobo » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:05 pm
District XIV wrote:Novorobo wrote:If it isn't a meaningful comparison, what the hell is it supposed to mean? Your point about the similarities is arbitrary without at least some vague idea/form/notion of cause and effect.
Literally all I'm saying is that there were people in 2008/2012 who said they would leave the country if Obama was elected - and surprise! Most of them didn't. My argument is is that the same thing is happening here: people are declaring/implying that they're going to leave the country if Trump is elected, but I strongly doubt they actually will if he is, considering the historical context, and the actual cost (both personal and financial) of moving to a different country. It has nothing to do with cause and effect.
I think I'm done here.
Socialist Nordia wrote:Oh shit, let's hope we don't have to take in any /pol/ refugees.
by Drawkland » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:17 pm
Novorobo wrote:Drawkland wrote:And although this would not be feasible, ideally they would be barred from returning.
I mean, if you can't handle the country at its "worst," then you shouldn't be able to reap it at its "best."
A metaphor: I'm in my school's marching band, and perhaps the most useless and deadweighted members are the band are the ones that only stick around for trips. The most absolutely aggravating thing I witnessed was the sheer volume of students who didn't participate in 2013 or 2015, but suddenly showed up in the 2014 season because we went to the Macy's Parade that year. It feels unfair; if you want to have the right to contribute, you shouldn't dart in and out whenever you feel like the situation will benefit you the most. It's unfair to the people who stick around and kind of selfish and irresilient.
is it any more fair for them to be dragged down by others' decision to vote Trump?
Remember who's asking you this. Note the things I myself pointed out in the OP. But I do find reasoning like this in particular rather hollow.
United Dalaran wrote:Goddammit, comrade. I just knew that someday some wild, capitalist, imperialist interstellar empire will swallow our country.CN on the RMB wrote:drawkland's leader has survived so many assassination attempts that I am fairly certain he is fidel castro in disguise
by Big Jim P » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:43 pm
by The Sotoan Union » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:44 pm
by Waldriech » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:47 pm
by Luziyca » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:48 pm
Sanctissima wrote:Well, as a Canadian, my stance is the more the merrier. I'm not sure how many Americans would actually leave their country over Trump being elected, but hey, you guys are welcome on this side of the border.
by Drawkland » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:49 pm
Waldriech wrote:Canadadians be like, "We will build a wall, and we will make America pay for it."
United Dalaran wrote:Goddammit, comrade. I just knew that someday some wild, capitalist, imperialist interstellar empire will swallow our country.CN on the RMB wrote:drawkland's leader has survived so many assassination attempts that I am fairly certain he is fidel castro in disguise
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