European Migrant Crisis Megathread

[Kelinfort]

Under what circumstances do their cultures originate?

Something about them is off. Europeans have a unified culture that opposes this. Arabs, Asians, Indians, Africans...they don't. Feel free to prove me wrong.

What are you saying here? I don't understand you.

Whites don't practice this behavior. Non-whites do.

[The balkens]

In which case I feel I must insist that anyone emigrating to an Islamic-majority culture abandon their culture and beliefs and adopt Islamic values. It's only fair, after all.

Seems reasonable.

Does that mean that i have to be a homophobic asshat?

[Gravlen]

No, they wouldn't. Under the Refugee convention, all Germans would not meet the criterias, and SS members would be excluded.

Yes. But European rules are much loser than the convention requires.

Not really, no. The qualification directive 2004/83/EC is a minimum directive, and is not much loser than the convention requires. In fact, the UNHCR has some concerns that it could be interpreted stricter than allowed.

[Aelex]

What are you referring to? 1968?

No, I'm referring to Boulanger actually. If he had more balls, France would have probably fallen into a military dictatorship in 1889 given how strong anti-parliamentarian and hate of the establishment was strong at the time.

[The Kievan People]

Does that mean that i have to be a homophobic asshat?

Are you an expatriot?

[Kelinfort]

What are you referring to? 1968?

No, I'm referring to Boulanger actually. If he had more balls, France would have probably fallen into a military dictatorship in 1889 given how strong anti-parliamentarian and hate of the establishment was strong at the time.

Ah ok.

But that's not in contemporary history.

[Ostroeuropa]

What are you saying here? I don't understand you.

Whites don't practice this behavior. Non-whites do.

Race has nothing to do with it, and your refusal to understand that this is a cultural and religious problem and not a racial one does nothing for the discussion. If you cannot even stay on topic, what point is there in discussing this with you?

I think it's clear you have no intention of arguing in good faith and will continue along this nonsense line of thought despite me explicitly pointing out to you why it's bullshit just now.

Show me the fucking gene responsible for this behavior, and I will freely concede it's a race issue. That's the difference between me and people like yourself. My anti-racism is based in fact, not narrative bullshit.
I have SHOWN you the meme responsible.

Go ahead, go grab some studies that isolate a particular gene in white people that means only they are capable of civility and rational discourse.
I'll say "Well, looks like it's a race issue, ban all non whites."
You can't though, because that isn't in line with objective reality.

Meanwhile, in terms of memetics:

Oh look.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=quran ... wQ_AUIBygC

And oh, look!
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=quran ... ger+muslim


I'm more than happy to keep pointing out to you why you are wrong if you keep repeating this thinly veiled smear masquerading as an argument.

Do you think Japanese people have a gene that causes suicide, or do you all of a sudden appreciate how a culture can lead people to behave differently in that case?

You realize its bad faith discussion like yours that leads to people out and out murdering migrants, right?

[The balkens]

Does that mean that i have to be a homophobic asshat?

Are you an expatriot?

No, just saying if i move to a Country in the ME where human rights in respects to LGBT are...horrid. Does that mean i have to abandon my western ways for to be a Homophobe?

[Kelinfort]

Whites don't practice this behavior. Non-whites do.

Race has nothing to do with it, and your refusal to understand that this is a cultural and religious problem and not a racial one does nothing for the discussion. If you cannot even stay on topic, what point is there in discussing this with you?

I think it's clear you have no intention of arguing in good faith and will continue along this nonsense line of thought despite me explicitly pointing out to you why it's bullshit just now.

Show me the fucking gene responsible for this behavior, and I will freely concede it's a race issue. That's the difference between me and people like yourself. My anti-racism is based in fact, not narrative bullshit.
I have SHOWN you the meme responsible.

Go ahead, go grab some studies that isolate a particular gene in white people that means only they are capable of civility and rational discourse.
I'll say "Well, looks like it's a race issue, ban all non whites."
You can't though, because that isn't in line with objective reality.

Meanwhile, in terms of memetics:

Oh look.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=quran ... wQ_AUIBygC

And oh, look!
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=quran ... ger+muslim


I'm more than happy to keep pointing out to you why you are wrong.

Do you think Japanese people have a gene that causes suicide, or do you all of a sudden appreciate how a culture can lead people to behave differently in that case?

Perhaps. Honor Killings, child marriage, rape...none of these are singular to Islam.

Non whites and coloured so practice them, though. Not whites.

[Ostroeuropa]

Race has nothing to do with it, and your refusal to understand that this is a cultural and religious problem and not a racial one does nothing for the discussion. If you cannot even stay on topic, what point is there in discussing this with you?

I think it's clear you have no intention of arguing in good faith and will continue along this nonsense line of thought despite me explicitly pointing out to you why it's bullshit just now.

Show me the fucking gene responsible for this behavior, and I will freely concede it's a race issue. That's the difference between me and people like yourself. My anti-racism is based in fact, not narrative bullshit.
I have SHOWN you the meme responsible.

Go ahead, go grab some studies that isolate a particular gene in white people that means only they are capable of civility and rational discourse.
I'll say "Well, looks like it's a race issue, ban all non whites."
You can't though, because that isn't in line with objective reality.

Meanwhile, in terms of memetics:

Oh look.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=quran ... wQ_AUIBygC

And oh, look!
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=quran ... ger+muslim


I'm more than happy to keep pointing out to you why you are wrong.

Do you think Japanese people have a gene that causes suicide, or do you all of a sudden appreciate how a culture can lead people to behave differently in that case?

Perhaps. Honor Killings, child marriage, rape...none of these are singular to Islam.

Non whites and coloured so practice them, though. Not whites.

Turn white to western and you've got a point.
We used to, and then we got our shit together. It's why our culture is superior.
If they refuse to adopt our modern values, we shouldn't allow them in.

I don't think third world migration in general is a good idea. But Islam is the current biggest threat there.

[The Kievan People]

No, just saying if i move to a Country in the ME where human rights in respects to LGBT are...horrid. Does that mean i have to abandon my western ways for to be a Homophobe?

Why are you asking me?

I don't know and I don't really care. I'm Canadian; but contrary to popular belief being a white man has not given me the power to solve all your problems.

But I'm sure you will figure something out, it's your country after all.

[Aelex]

Ah ok.

But that's not in contemporary history.

Well, situation is kinda similar in France actually. There is a pseudo Maurrassian right (the F.N) which is growing stronger everyday as the establishment is unable to do anything to resolve important concern and prefer to turn a blind eye toward the issues the country is facing.
You don't think that a cancer will magically heal if you stop looking at it don't you? Well it's the same with the far-right.
Start adressing the issues and the buffoon like Donald Trump will just be laughed at by the populace rather than listened to.

[Kelinfort]

Perhaps. Honor Killings, child marriage, rape...none of these are singular to Islam.

Non whites and coloured so practice them, though. Not whites.

Turn white to western and you've got a point.
We used to, and then we got our shit together. It's why our culture is superior.
If they refuse to adopt our modern values, we shouldn't allow them in.

I don't think third world migration in general is a good idea. But Islam is the current biggest threat there.

Whites in the so called East don't do this. Russians do not. Neither do any whites who have lived in these places for significant amounts of time i.e. Generations.

So no, it's not just culture. Either it's race or it's the individual.

[Ghatawerpya]

Yes because banning circumcision is the golden bullet of integration.

Sure is. If they want to carry on mutilating their kids they have to leave the country.
If they want to stay, they have to demonstrate a willingness to abandon elements of their culture.
Yes, yes it is a golden bullet.

1. In the liberal west we afford parents the right to make health related decisions for their children.
2. Circumcision has medical benefits.
3. Circumcision is ok.

[Kelinfort]

Ah ok.

But that's not in contemporary history.

Well, situation is kinda similar in France actually. There is a pseudo Maurrassian right (the F.N) which is growing stronger everyday as the establishment is unable to do anything to resolve important concern and prefer to turn a blind eye toward the issues the country is facing.
You don't think that a cancer will magically heal if you stop looking at it don't you? Well it's the same with the far-right.
Start adressing the issues and the buffoon like Donald Trump will just be laughed at by the populace rather than listened to.

Well, instead of calling it a cancer, embracing it may be better.

I'm playing devil's advocate, but hey, maybe something will get done.

[Ostroeuropa]

Turn white to western and you've got a point.
We used to, and then we got our shit together. It's why our culture is superior.
If they refuse to adopt our modern values, we shouldn't allow them in.

I don't think third world migration in general is a good idea. But Islam is the current biggest threat there.

Whites in the so called East don't do this. Russians do not. Neither do any whites who have lived in these places for significant amounts of time i.e. Generations.

So no, it's not just culture. Either it's race or it's the individual.

Absolute bollocks. On what basis do you claim this. For one thing, Syrians are arguably caucasian.
For another, you're just repeating the same crap i've JUST explained to you is wrong and why in a transparent attempt to paint opposition to a set of ideas as opposition to a set of genes.

You are arguing in bad faith. What possible good do you think can result from policy being based in disingenuous virtue signalling?

[Wallenburg]

Perhaps. Honor Killings, child marriage, rape...none of these are singular to Islam.

Non whites and coloured so practice them, though. Not whites.

Turn white to western and you've got a point.

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Westerners don't rape? Are you fucking kidding me? Same goes for you, Kelinfort. Last time I checked, plenty of white people do all of those things.

[Sanctissima]

Well, situation is kinda similar in France actually. There is a pseudo Maurrassian right (the F.N) which is growing stronger everyday as the establishment is unable to do anything to resolve important concern and prefer to turn a blind eye toward the issues the country is facing.
You don't think that a cancer will magically heal if you stop looking at it don't you? Well it's the same with the far-right.
Start adressing the issues and the buffoon like Donald Trump will just be laughed at by the populace rather than listened to.

Well, instead of calling it a cancer, embracing it may be better.

I'm playing devil's advocate, but hey, maybe something will get done.

The problem with the far-right is that while things usually get done, they also inevitably become worse than they initially were.

[Ostroeuropa]

Turn white to western and you've got a point.

...

Westerners don't rape? Are you fucking kidding me?

I never claimed that, and didn't notice that part of his list.
However, it's fair to say that westerners don't rape to the same extent as non-westerners, in part because of our societal attempts to purge the practice.

[The Kievan People]

Turn white to western and you've got a point.

All western countries are white.

Surely this has not escaped your notice.

[Wallenburg]

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Westerners don't rape? Are you fucking kidding me?

I never claimed that,

That's what your post says you claim.

and didn't notice that part of his list.

Then you should learn to actually read posts before responding to them.

However, it's fair to say that westerners don't rape to the same extent as non-westerners, in part because of our societal attempts to purge the practice.

Yeah...no.

Turn white to western and you've got a point.

All western countries are white.

Surely this has not escaped your notice.

Japan.

[Ostroeuropa]

Turn white to western and you've got a point.

All western countries are white.

Surely this has not escaped your notice.

Japan, South Korea.

[Kelinfort]

Whites in the so called East don't do this. Russians do not. Neither do any whites who have lived in these places for significant amounts of time i.e. Generations.

So no, it's not just culture. Either it's race or it's the individual.

Absolute bollocks. On what basis do you claim this. For one thing, Syrians are arguably caucasian.
For another, you're just repeating the same crap i've JUST explained to you is wrong and why in a transparent attempt to paint opposition to a set of ideas as opposition to a set of genes.

You are arguing in bad faith. What possible good do you think can result from policy being based in disingenuous virtue signalling?

Oh, so you have empirical evidence a culture predisposes someone to this?

[Ostroeuropa]

I never claimed that,

That's what your post says you claim.

and didn't notice that part of his list.

Then you should learn to actually read posts before responding to them.

However, it's fair to say that westerners don't rape to the same extent as non-westerners, in part because of our societal attempts to purge the practice.

Yeah...no.

That's due to how rape is recorded in statistics, what constitutes rape, and encouraging people to report.
As i've previously shown, migrants to sweden commit over half the rapes there.

For one thing, getting raped can get you executed in Iran. You think that's reliable?

[Belhorizon]

I never claimed that,

That's what your post says you claim.

and didn't notice that part of his list.

Then you should learn to actually read posts before responding to them.

However, it's fair to say that westerners don't rape to the same extent as non-westerners, in part because of our societal attempts to purge the practice.

Yeah...no.

All western countries are white.

Surely this has not escaped your notice.

Japan.

You do know that of all things, it's difficult to get accurate rape statistics in the Arab World.
Women aren't allowed to report rape. It's not an official rule, but the unspoken one.
Women don't report rape, because they are bullied if they do.

Edit: Ostro beat me to it.
People, get this into your heads.
Arab culture =/= European culture.
Polar opposites actually.