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How do you identify yourself?

White/Caucasian
450
73%
Asian
42
7%
Arab
6
1%
Native American
7
1%
African
13
2%
Indian
5
1%
Hispanic
31
5%
Mixed
65
11%
 
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:49 am

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Kauthar wrote:and if they let the arabs in their language will be repressed and they'll get the free gift of mass rape, just like Cologne did.

Oh, right. Letting in refugees is equivalent to their nation of origin annexing the country they fled to. Makes a whole lot of sense.


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Postby Ifreann » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:50 am

Kauthar wrote:I'm white and I'm proud to be white.

How awful for you.

Ifreann wrote:Race is a social construct with no basis in biology.


yeah man no basis in biology at all

Correct, none at all.
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Postby Zoice » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:52 am

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Zoice wrote:Oh, right. Letting in refugees is equivalent to their nation of origin annexing the country they fled to. Makes a whole lot of sense.


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Postby Khadgar » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:52 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kauthar wrote:I'm white and I'm proud to be white.

How awful for you.


Correct, none at all.


Dunno, that vintage 1800 illustration is pretty damn convincing. Negroid, honestly.

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Postby The German Democratic Reich » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:55 am

Shaking my head at the Nazi and white supremacist in this thread.

I see Race as a real thing, however, race should not matter in a society. No race is superior to the other, and all need to work together for the betterment of humanity as a whole.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:55 am

Kauthar wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Race is a social construct with no basis in biology.


yeah man no basis in biology at all

This is a bit like trying to demonstrate homeopathy has a scientific basis by linking to a picture of a smiling man with the label "homeopathy" and a man grimacing in pain with the label "conventional medicine" from a site called www.homeopathyistotallylegit.com.

Also, you say you're white, but I bet you're really a sort of pale beige at best.
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Postby Zoice » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:57 am

Khadgar wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How awful for you.


Correct, none at all.


Dunno, that vintage 1800 illustration is pretty damn convincing. Negroid, honestly.

Mmmnhm. Y'see, th' science of phrenology tells us that the ni-. . . Negroid brain has this bump, characteristic of th' subservience. . .

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Postby Grande Republic of Arcadia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:57 am

Gurori wrote:What Race are you and how do you feel about it? How do you identify yourself racially/ethnically?

As far as I'm concerned, I'm just a simple White British guy.

What issues do you perceive affecting your race?

One of the issues I perceive is racism, White people do tend to be racist and I'm personally ashamed of that.

How do you feel about your race relative to other races?

I do not understand this question.

Is ethnicity more important than race?

They're both as important as each other and I don't really care about either, what matters in the end is that we're all human and that we should learn to accept each other, no matter what their background is.

SO you are saying only whites can be rasisct?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:58 am

Grande Republic of Arcadia wrote:
Gurori wrote:What Race are you and how do you feel about it? How do you identify yourself racially/ethnically?

As far as I'm concerned, I'm just a simple White British guy.

What issues do you perceive affecting your race?

One of the issues I perceive is racism, White people do tend to be racist and I'm personally ashamed of that.

How do you feel about your race relative to other races?

I do not understand this question.

Is ethnicity more important than race?

They're both as important as each other and I don't really care about either, what matters in the end is that we're all human and that we should learn to accept each other, no matter what their background is.

SO you are saying only whites can be rasisct?


No, they're saying that white people are racist. Not that only white people are racist.
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Postby The German Democratic Reich » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:59 am

Also, to have pride in your race is incredibly foolish, No matter what the color.

Black, white, blue, green, having pride with something you were born in and never really attributed to is so freakin' foolish, its not even funny. I also thinking blaming certain races for problems, like blaming blacks for crimes, and whites for racism, is also incredibly stupid.

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Postby Zoice » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:01 am

The German Democratic Reich wrote:Also, to have pride in your race is incredibly foolish, No matter what the color.

Black, white, blue, green, having pride with something you were born in and never really attributed to is so freakin' foolish, its not even funny. I also thinking blaming certain races for problems, like blaming blacks for crimes, and whites for racism, is also incredibly stupid.

It's also freakin' foolish because there is no scientific basis for race existing. The categories vary hugely depending on who you ask, and there's no real difference between different populations other than physical cosmetic stuff like skin colour and face shape.
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Postby San Eulogio » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:01 am

The German Democratic Reich wrote:Also, to have pride in your race is incredibly foolish, No matter what the color.

Black, white, blue, green, having pride with something you were born in and never really attributed to is so freakin' foolish, its not even funny. I also thinking blaming certain races for problems, like blaming blacks for crimes, and whites for racism, is also incredibly stupid.

Tell that to the Black Pride movement on NSG...
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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:05 am

The Realm of Lordaeron wrote:I'm sort of curious because I noticed the sexual orientation diversity of this forum. I wonder how racially diverse it is.

What Race are you and how do you feel about it? How do you identify yourself racially/ethnically? What issues do you perceive affecting your race? How do you feel about your race relative to other races? Is ethnicity more important than your race?

I'm a cracker and I live in the U.S. My race is particularly predisposed to employment, education and earning in my country. Asians have us beat on that though.
I feel americans of African descent, some of them atleast in my anecdotal experience, have somewhat of an inferiority complex and are particularly sensitive to perceived racial issues.

I am caucasoid, but I'm ethnically Irish. An identification that probably pisses "real Irish" off because my nationality is American.

In the past, being Irish or German american had real weight and the communities were more distinct. They still are in many areas, but since whites are becoming a minority in the United States, ethnic differences between whites has lost its importance from back when Irish people werent even considered "white".


I'm Caucasian, and Irish and English ethnically. As far as issues, I don't concern myself with them. I don't see myself as inherently better or worse than anyone else, and find the whole need to feel attached to one's race as if it holds some necessary importance as divisive and impudent. I have the same feelings towards ethnicity, and nationality. I base my judgement off of people's character and their behaviour, I give zero fucks about what your genetic make-up or skin colour is, and I pride myself in trying very hard to not over-generalise in my experiences with good people and pricks alike.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:11 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:

This is a bit like trying to demonstrate homeopathy has a scientific basis by linking to a picture of a smiling man with the label "homeopathy" and a man grimacing in pain with the label "conventional medicine" from a site called http://www.homeopathyistotallylegit.com.

Also, you say you're white, but I bet you're really a sort of pale beige at best.


Not to mention the fact that one's skin colour is just determined by evolutionary genetic mutation due to regional drift from the equator. Ergo, lighter skin people closer to the poles where solar radiation is less, and darker skinned people closer to the equator where solar radiation is much stronger. It's an evolutionary defence against abnormal mutation caused by the sun's radiation to avoid potentially damaging and malignant mutations from occurring in cells and causing diseases like cancer. Nothing more.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:15 am

Khadgar wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How awful for you.


Correct, none at all.


Dunno, that vintage 1800 illustration is pretty damn convincing. Negroid, honestly.

Normally I would take a blog called "Aryanity" at their word on all matters of race, but in this case I think they've erred.


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The German Democratic Reich wrote:Also, to have pride in your race is incredibly foolish, No matter what the color.

Black, white, blue, green, having pride with something you were born in and never really attributed to is so freakin' foolish, its not even funny. I also thinking blaming certain races for problems, like blaming blacks for crimes, and whites for racism, is also incredibly stupid.

Tell that to the Black Pride movement on NSG...

What Black Pride movement on NSG?
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Postby Crockerland » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:15 am

Kauthar wrote:I'm white and I'm proud to be white.

Kind of a weird thing to be proud of... Most people are proud of their achievements, their awards, or their attempts, not at things they received for free; But to each his own I suppose.
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It has always been a good thing, like when the ancient Israelites persecuted people whos' religion called them to burn babies alive. If you mean persecution of any modern religion, it would be when Muhammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) wrote the ninth surah of the Quran, mandating a faith tax be payed by the unbelievers under threat of death.
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Postby Khadgar » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:16 am

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Khadgar wrote:
Dunno, that vintage 1800 illustration is pretty damn convincing. Negroid, honestly.

Normally I would take a blog called "Aryanity" at their word on all matters of race, but in this case I think they've erred.


San Eulogio wrote:Tell that to the Black Pride movement on NSG...

What Black Pride movement on NSG?


In all my years I've never seen a black pride movement on NS. Clearly I missed it.

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Postby Stoic Melancholics » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:17 am

Race is nothing to be proud of. Family heritage, sure, but race itself is inconsequential.

Like, I'm proud of my Native American Heritage just as a French person might be proud of their heritage.
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Here's my main point though: When we start in on stuff like that, what make us better than the people we claim to be fighting against?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:21 am

Khadgar wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Normally I would take a blog called "Aryanity" at their word on all matters of race, but in this case I think they've erred.



What Black Pride movement on NSG?


In all my years I've never seen a black pride movement on NS. Clearly I missed it.

They must be keeping it quiet. Though that begs the question as to how San Eulogio came to hear about it.
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Vassenor wrote:Here's my main point though: When we start in on stuff like that, what make us better than the people we claim to be fighting against?

Could you specify who exactly you are responding to here? Or at least elaborate on your point? I don't really see what your post is supposed to say.
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Kauthar wrote:I'm white and I'm proud to be white.

Kind of a weird thing to be proud of... Most people are proud of their achievements, their awards, or their attempts, not at things they received for free; But to each his own I suppose.
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It has always been a good thing, like when the ancient Israelites persecuted people whos' religion called them to burn babies alive. If you mean persecution of any modern religion, it would be when Muhammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) wrote the ninth surah of the Quran, mandating a faith tax be payed by the unbelievers under threat of death.

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I think the Hughmunz should be less worried about their fleshy bits n' more worried about the teeming hordes of equally fleshly species coming for their brains. :>

I couldn't care less about race. It has little to no bearing on my actions, aside from when people who are concerned with racial issues bother me about these things.

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Old Tyrannia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Here's my main point though: When we start in on stuff like that, what make us better than the people we claim to be fighting against?

Could you specify who exactly you are responding to here? Or at least elaborate on your point? I don't really see what your post is supposed to say.


The religious persecution thing. Apparently it managed to jump threads from the Migrant crisis thread and I'm not sure how.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:25 am

Crockerland wrote:
Kauthar wrote:I'm white and I'm proud to be white.

Kind of a weird thing to be proud of... Most people are proud of their achievements, their awards, or their attempts, not at things they received for free; But to each his own I suppose.
Vassenor wrote:
...When did religious persecution become a good thing?

It has always been a good thing, like when the ancient Israelites persecuted people whos' religion called them to burn babies alive. If you mean persecution of any modern religion, it would be when Muhammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) wrote the ninth surah of the Quran, mandating a faith tax be payed by the unbelievers under threat of death.

Why is there a conversation about religion in this thread on race?
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