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As a Conservative voter, who should be the next president of the United States?

Donald Trump
47
24%
Ted Cruz
19
10%
Marco Rubio
7
4%
John Kasich
37
19%
I'm not a Republican supporter
82
43%
 
Total votes : 192

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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:53 pm

Galloism wrote:I think they upgraded Macro Rubio's software. He actually got in some good digs at Trump.


He's still annoying.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:53 pm

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Soldati senza confini wrote:As someone who is attempting to get a small business going, his flat business tax would be completely unfair and harmful to my business.

Not to mention social Security


I mean, I get where he is coming from. But eliminating the corporate tax and coallescing the tax code for both me, the Sole Proprietor, and a Corporation, is something that is not in my best interests.
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Postby Stoic Melancholics » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:54 pm

I hear some boos at Bush.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:54 pm

Sounds like Kasich is about to cry
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:56 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Sounds like Kasich is about to cry


Bush was, to be fair, pulling shit out of his ass that sounds good but doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:56 pm

I don't care about capital gains or hedge funds, but as far as I am aware that's not going to go down well for people who are into those things.
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Postby Stoic Melancholics » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:57 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Sounds like Kasich is about to cry


Bush was, to be fair, pulling shit out of his ass that sounds good but doesn't hold up to scrutiny.


Indeed. Kasich has been a dependable governor, and is more fiscally conservative than Bush if we want to go into those metrics. That said, Kasich always looks like a "RINO", so it gives candidates easy opportunities to pounce on him.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:57 pm

Because that's what makes sense carson.

Have a person with $10,000 in income paying taxes.
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Postby Skogin Federation of the Twelve Duchies » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:57 pm

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Trump's plan for Healthcare is a continuation of socialized medicine. What he described was socialized medicine. His proposal is lacking, or as you would claim, non-existent. However, what he's talking about isn't a return to the system that was so unfair to so many people.


He said that his plan would be "so much better than Obamacare". That is literally the only thing Trump has said on health care.

Actually he has said a lot.

https://csteventucker.wordpress.com/201 ... alth-care/

Nice little article.

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Postby Stoic Melancholics » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:57 pm

Galloism wrote:Because that's what makes sense carson.

Have a person with $10,000 in income paying taxes.


Carson? Why, I hardly heard what he was saying.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:59 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
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But will it hurt him? We shall find out after these messages.

Nope. Not one iota.


His hardcore fans won't leave. Those that lean for him though will have second thoughts.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:00 pm

Carson, what the fuck?!

Also, you're fucking over businesses here in the U.S.; you're effectively, with your plan, making it more tempting to have a company's HQ overseas.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:01 pm

Galloism wrote:Because that's what makes sense carson.

Have a person with $10,000 in income paying taxes.


It's stupid. I don't understand what he is thinking his tax policy will accomplish.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:02 pm

Good old "Make Mexico Pay" Trump.
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Postby Eol Sha » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:02 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Nope. Not one iota.


His hardcore fans won't leave. Those that lean for him though will have second thoughts.

Oh no they won't. Americans know that Bush didn't keep us safe. When everyone says that he did when Americans know he didn't, well, a few more will migrate over to Trump. Couple that with his constant criticism of the Iraq War and Trump has a very potent message that will reach a lot of people.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:03 pm

We don't have a country? Really Trump?
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Postby Eol Sha » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:04 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Galloism wrote:Because that's what makes sense carson.

Have a person with $10,000 in income paying taxes.


It's stupid. I don't understand what he is thinking his tax policy will accomplish.

It doesn't have to make sense since Carson isn't in this to become President. He's here to raise his speaking fees and sell books.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Polar Svalbard » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:04 pm

They shouldn't have an audience at these debates, I mean honestly stop screaming, shouting, or booing. Shut up, I want to hear the candidates not you.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:04 pm

Thermodolia wrote:We don't have a country? Really Trump?


This will make filling things out awkward.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:05 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:We don't have a country? Really Trump?


This will make filling things out awkward.


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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:05 pm

What the fuck... TONS OF GOD DAMN COMMERCIALS ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IN THE ONLINE STREAM! UUUUUGH!
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:05 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:We don't have a country? Really Trump?


This will make filling things out awkward.

Well I guess I don't have to pay taxes
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Postby Eol Sha » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:06 pm

Lol. Rubio still thinks he can win this fight with Ted.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:07 pm

Oh here we go. This is a topic that is interesting.

Cruz is a dipshit. Trump is meh, fucking blowhard. Rubio is alright I guess.

Cruz, you're a hypocrite. You wanted it to pass, except you wanted to amend it.
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Postby Camicon » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:08 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This will make filling things out awkward.


Canadian citizen, biotches.

I really wanna see Sanders and McConnell have a charity boxing match.
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