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Blorbs
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Postby Blorbs » Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:15 pm

Pharthan wrote:
Blorbs wrote:Removing them would add more space for future modules, but its probably just a small amount of OCD xD
Also, sidenote, what program did you use to make that space station, or did you make it from scratch?

I use adobe illustrator. So it's technically from scratch but I have parts made up.

Thats awesome! I wish I could make stuff like that on my own, although having adobe illistrator probably would help.
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N27
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Member App.

Postby N27 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:57 pm

Member Application


Full Nation Name: N27
Head of State: His Grace, King Monk Targaryen. Her Grace, Queen Daenerys Targaryen

Are you willing to allow the ISA to use any facilities your nation owns? If so, what are they?: Yes. The National King Monk Moon Base.
Money pledged to the ISA annually: 500 Billion/year (National yearly Budget: 246 Trillion)
Type of Membership desired: Full.

(If applicable, answer below. If not, ignore.)
Name of Space Agency: King Monk Space Agency (KMSA. 'Kem-sar' Pronunciation)
Type (Public, private, etc.): Run by the government (Private, I presume) but open to the public. High Security Clearance.
Annual budget (NSD): 150 Billion Dollars.
Location of Headquarters: Kynamare (Pronounced: Kie-Nuh-mair)
Location of Mission Control: Central Palace (King Monk's Royal Residence)

Why does your nation want to join the ISA?: We want to advance space exploration, and we have a high budget. 246 trillion a year. We are hardly ever in debt.
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N27
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Postby N27 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:01 pm

We also have a large number (Over 20) Launch sites for the ISA to use. and 17 spaceships. We are building much more as time goes by.

- His Grace, King Monk.
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N27
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Director

Postby N27 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:05 pm

Director Application
(If I am given Full Membership)
Name of Nation: N27
Name of Space Program: The N27 Royal Space Exploration Mission.
Desired Director position: The only one that is open, the Director of Facilities.
Representative: Princess Maressa Targaryen of N27

(Optional):
Why do you want this position: To help the ISA in any way I can, I would also increase the Budget given to 2 Trillion (of the National Yearly Budget of 246 Trillion)
Appearance of Director: In any formal situation and to open any Facilities constructed under his jurisdiction
Qualifications of Director: King Monk is a good leader.
Short bio/experience of Representative: Princess Maressa is as interested in space as the ISA and KMSA combined.
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Legatia
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Postby Legatia » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:26 pm

N27 wrote:
Member Application


Full Nation Name: N27
Head of State: His Grace, King Monk Targaryen. Her Grace, Queen Daenerys Targaryen

Are you willing to allow the ISA to use any facilities your nation owns? If so, what are they?: Yes. The National King Monk Moon Base.
Money pledged to the ISA annually: 500 Billion/year (National yearly Budget: 246 Trillion)
Type of Membership desired: Full.

(If applicable, answer below. If not, ignore.)
Name of Space Agency: King Monk Space Agency (KMSA. 'Kem-sar' Pronunciation)
Type (Public, private, etc.): Run by the government (Private, I presume) but open to the public. High Security Clearance.
Annual budget (NSD): 150 Billion Dollars.
Location of Headquarters: Kynamare (Pronounced: Kie-Nuh-mair)
Location of Mission Control: Central Palace (King Monk's Royal Residence)

Why does your nation want to join the ISA?: We want to advance space exploration, and we have a high budget. 246 trillion a year. We are hardly ever in debt.


N27 wrote:
Director Application
(If I am given Full Membership)
Name of Nation: N27
Name of Space Program: The N27 Royal Space Exploration Mission.
Desired Director position: The only one that is open, the Director of Facilities.
Representative: Princess Maressa Targaryen of N27

(Optional):
Why do you want this position: To help the ISA in any way I can, I would also increase the Budget given to 2 Trillion (of the National Yearly Budget of 246 Trillion)
Appearance of Director: In any formal situation and to open any Facilities constructed under his jurisdiction
Qualifications of Director: King Monk is a good leader.
Short bio/experience of Representative: Princess Maressa is as interested in space as the ISA and KMSA combined.


While I do enjoy the ASoIAF/GoT references, there are a number of errors with these applications.

You shouldn't offer the ISA more than what you fund your own space program, obviously. If I might note, your national budget is the most outrageous I've ever seen. You outproduce the entire gross domestic product of the planet Earth by nearly three times, which I find astounding.

"Appearance of Director" means the physical appearance of your director, not the circumstances on which they would appear to events.

Your qualifications do not match up at all, either. "King Monk is a Good Leader" has nothing to do with being in charge of the ISA's facilities, as well as having nothing to do with Princess Maressa, who uniquely has no plainly visible skills to suit to the task.

I'm going to have to deny you until you can fix these. Sorry.




As to the others, I am constructing the ISA headquarters thread right now. It will be up soon!

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N27
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Postby N27 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:34 pm

Oh... i thought you meant my ACTUAL nation's Yearly Economy... lol

'The very strong N27ish economy, worth 246 trillion Crowns a year, is led by the Arms Manufacturing industry, with major contributions from Information Technology, Tourism, and Basket Weaving.'

So how does this work then??
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Legatia
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Postby Legatia » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:42 pm

ISA Headquarters thread is open for business! You don't need to apply, but please do list your representative's name/title when you first do post.

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Congreveopia
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Postby Congreveopia » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:46 pm

Legatia wrote:Your qualifications do not match up at all, either. "King Monk is a Good Leader" has nothing to do with being in charge of the ISA's facilities, as well as having nothing to do with Princess Maressa, who uniquely has no plainly visible skills to suit to the task.

The numbers are ridiculous, I agree with that. I wanted to comment on the director application, though, because it was an interesting concept (the idea that the ISA would entertain someone totally unfit for an actual management role in exchange for money and goodwill from a nation). It would have to be done more deftly than this (because saying it all this flat out would be a PR nightmare), but I don't think we'd be above creating a meaningless role for a member of royalty to sit in and feel important in exchange for large donations from the king of the country.

Legatia wrote:As to the others, I am constructing the ISA headquarters thread right now. It will be up soon!

Yay!

N27 wrote:Oh... i thought you meant my ACTUAL nation's Yearly Economy... lol

'The very strong N27ish economy, worth 246 trillion Crowns a year, is led by the Arms Manufacturing industry, with major contributions from Information Technology, Tourism, and Basket Weaving.'

So how does this work then??

Very few people use the stats that NS gives for their nation as their nation's actual information on the forums for two reasons: people want more control over their nations than that, and NS nations quickly balloon to massive populations of billions, at which point realisim kind of breaks down.

So most of them will decide on a more reasonable level to cap their nation at and come up with some reasonable numbers from there. What those are is up to individual preference, but it's probably poor form to pick numbers that beat the US economy by entire orders of magnitude.


EDIT (Ninja'd):
Legatia wrote:ISA Headquarters thread is open for business! You don't need to apply, but please do list your representative's name/title when you first do post.

Yaaaaay!

I'll visit tomorrow. Sleep now. Space tomorrow.
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Legatia
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Postby Legatia » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:50 pm

N27 wrote:Oh... i thought you meant my ACTUAL nation's Yearly Economy... lol

'The very strong N27ish economy, worth 246 trillion Crowns a year, is led by the Arms Manufacturing industry, with major contributions from Information Technology, Tourism, and Basket Weaving.'

So how does this work then??

Congreveopia wrote:
Legatia wrote:Your qualifications do not match up at all, either. "King Monk is a Good Leader" has nothing to do with being in charge of the ISA's facilities, as well as having nothing to do with Princess Maressa, who uniquely has no plainly visible skills to suit to the task.

The numbers are ridiculous, I agree with that. I wanted to comment on the director application, though, because it was an interesting concept (the idea that the ISA would entertain someone totally unfit for an actual management role in exchange for money and goodwill from a nation). It would have to be done more deftly than this (because saying it all this flat out would be a PR nightmare), but I don't think we'd be above creating a meaningless role for a member of royalty to sit in and feel important in exchange for large donations from the king of the country.

Legatia wrote:As to the others, I am constructing the ISA headquarters thread right now. It will be up soon!

Yay!

N27 wrote:Oh... i thought you meant my ACTUAL nation's Yearly Economy... lol

'The very strong N27ish economy, worth 246 trillion Crowns a year, is led by the Arms Manufacturing industry, with major contributions from Information Technology, Tourism, and Basket Weaving.'

So how does this work then??

Very few people use the stats that NS gives for their nation as their nation's actual information on the forums for two reasons: people want more control over their nations than that, and NS nations quickly balloon to massive populations of billions, at which point realisim kind of breaks down.

So most of them will decide on a more reasonable level to cap their nation at and come up with some reasonable numbers from there. What those are is up to individual preference, but it's probably poor form to pick numbers that beat the US economy by entire orders of magnitude.


EDIT (Ninja'd):
Legatia wrote:ISA Headquarters thread is open for business! You don't need to apply, but please do list your representative's name/title when you first do post.

Yaaaaay!

I'll visit tomorrow. Sleep now. Space tomorrow.


Of course, I'm not above the point of corruption, haha. Maybe.

That would be an interesting concept (and scandal, if we were found out).

As for N27, pick a reasonable GDP for your nation, and your member application will be accepted. I'm also going to sleep, so I hope to see you all tomorrow.

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N27
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Postby N27 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:57 pm

Is 3 Trillion Per Year acceptable?

200 Billion would go to KMSA and 200 Billion and 1 dollar would go to the ISA...
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Guadalupador
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Postby Guadalupador » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:19 pm

I apologize for being so quiet on this thread for such a long time, but are there any pieces of legislation that are being planned for the Counsil thread?
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Legatia
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Postby Legatia » Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:18 am

N27 wrote:Is 3 Trillion Per Year acceptable?

200 Billion would go to KMSA and 200 Billion and 1 dollar would go to the ISA...



3 trillion is fine, but you still need to reduce your ISA donation. It's still more (although by one dollar) than your space agency budget.

Generally you shouldn't stray too far from half of your nation's budget.

Guadalupador wrote:I apologize for being so quiet on this thread for such a long time, but are there any pieces of legislation that are being planned for the Counsil thread?


The ISA Council will soon be reviewing proposals for the ISA space station and perhaps an unmanned probe to Venus.

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Novorneika
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Postby Novorneika » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:18 am

Am I accepted? If so, I plan to do some sort of interstellar-like roleplay.

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Guadalupador
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Postby Guadalupador » Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:54 am

Legatia wrote:
N27 wrote:Is 3 Trillion Per Year acceptable?

200 Billion would go to KMSA and 200 Billion and 1 dollar would go to the ISA...



3 trillion is fine, but you still need to reduce your ISA donation. It's still more (although by one dollar) than your space agency budget.

Generally you shouldn't stray too far from half of your nation's budget.

Guadalupador wrote:I apologize for being so quiet on this thread for such a long time, but are there any pieces of legislation that are being planned for the Counsil thread?


The ISA Council will soon be reviewing proposals for the ISA space station and perhaps an unmanned probe to Venus.

Alright, good to know.
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Blorbs
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Postby Blorbs » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:17 pm

Novorneika wrote:Am I accepted? If so, I plan to do some sort of interstellar-like roleplay.

Sorry, no interstellar travel here!
You could propose sending a probe outside the solar system, but even just to get to alpha centauri with our current technology would take over 100 years, and thats with a probe!
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The S C P Foundation
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Postby The S C P Foundation » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:51 pm

Member Application


Full Nation Name: The Foundation
Head of State: No single head of state; executive power is vested in the form of the O5 Council

Are you willing to allow the ISA to use any facilities your nation owns? If so, what are they?: Yes, although we would prefer that they not be used unless necessary (due to their clandestine nature). At the moment, we own one (covert) space center, Orbital Launch Site-07 (OLS-07, built at Mt. Tapochau, Northern Marianas Islands with the permission of the United States).
Money pledged to the ISA annually: None at the moment
Type of Membership desired: Ultimately, a Full Member

(If applicable, answer below. If not, ignore.)
Name of Space Agency: Foundation Space Operations Command
Type (Public, private, etc.): Private Organization
Annual budget (NSD): 100 billion NSD
Location of Headquarters: Site-19
Location of Mission Control: Site-82

Why does your nation want to join the ISA?: The Foundation, as an organization dedicated to defending humanity from the unknown, desires membership in the ISA in order to further its own mission of protecting the human race as well as to apply our own expertise in space operations to helping others develop their own space programs.
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New Chilokver
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Postby New Chilokver » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:54 pm

Wait- so are we hard or NS MT?

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Blorbs
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Postby Blorbs » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:02 pm

The S C P Foundation wrote:
Member Application


Full Nation Name: The Foundation
Head of State: No single head of state; executive power is vested in the form of the O5 Council

Are you willing to allow the ISA to use any facilities your nation owns? If so, what are they?: Yes, although we would prefer that they not be used unless necessary (due to their clandestine nature). At the moment, we own one (covert) space center, Orbital Launch Site-07 (OLS-07, built at Mt. Tapochau, Northern Marianas Islands with the permission of the United States).
Money pledged to the ISA annually: None at the moment
Type of Membership desired: Ultimately, a Full Member

(If applicable, answer below. If not, ignore.)
Name of Space Agency: Foundation Space Operations Command
Type (Public, private, etc.): Private Organization
Annual budget (NSD): 100 billion NSD
Location of Headquarters: Site-19
Location of Mission Control: Site-82

Why does your nation want to join the ISA?: The Foundation, as an organization dedicated to defending humanity from the unknown, desires membership in the ISA in order to further its own mission of protecting the human race as well as to apply our own expertise in space operations to helping others develop their own space programs.

Im sorry, but we cant accept you if you dont provide a definitave type of membership. If you dont yet want to be a full member, you can be a partial member, but there is no inbetween. Please provide us with the exact type of membership you desire; You can apply to change it at any time.

New Chilokver wrote:Wait- so are we hard or NS MT?

I beleive we are hard MT. You could technically propose an NS MT project, however it would almost definantly be rejected.
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Postby The S C P Foundation » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:03 pm

Blorbs wrote:
The S C P Foundation wrote:
Member Application


Full Nation Name: The Foundation
Head of State: No single head of state; executive power is vested in the form of the O5 Council

Are you willing to allow the ISA to use any facilities your nation owns? If so, what are they?: Yes, although we would prefer that they not be used unless necessary (due to their clandestine nature). At the moment, we own one (covert) space center, Orbital Launch Site-07 (OLS-07, built at Mt. Tapochau, Northern Marianas Islands with the permission of the United States).
Money pledged to the ISA annually: None at the moment
Type of Membership desired: Ultimately, a Full Member

(If applicable, answer below. If not, ignore.)
Name of Space Agency: Foundation Space Operations Command
Type (Public, private, etc.): Private Organization
Annual budget (NSD): 100 billion NSD
Location of Headquarters: Site-19
Location of Mission Control: Site-82

Why does your nation want to join the ISA?: The Foundation, as an organization dedicated to defending humanity from the unknown, desires membership in the ISA in order to further its own mission of protecting the human race as well as to apply our own expertise in space operations to helping others develop their own space programs.

Im sorry, but we cant accept you if you dont provide a definitave type of membership. If you dont yet want to be a full member, you can be a partial member, but there is no inbetween. Please provide us with the exact type of membership you desire; You can apply to change it at any time.


Oops, sorry about that. We would like to become Partial Members.
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Blorbs
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Postby Blorbs » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:17 pm

The S C P Foundation wrote:
Blorbs wrote:Im sorry, but we cant accept you if you dont provide a definitave type of membership. If you dont yet want to be a full member, you can be a partial member, but there is no inbetween. Please provide us with the exact type of membership you desire; You can apply to change it at any time.


Oops, sorry about that. We would like to become Partial Members.

Accepted! Also, the ISA wont use your facilities, we have enough to handle without so you have them all to yourself :D
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Postby Soviet Farm » Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:06 pm

Sorry for the inactivity. Real life finally decided to go well.

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Postby Congreveopia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:56 am

Blorbs wrote:
The S C P Foundation wrote:
Oops, sorry about that. We would like to become Partial Members.

Accepted! Also, the ISA wont use your facilities, we have enough to handle without so you have them all to yourself :D

Debate session 682, on the merits and infeasibility of designing an automated cargo vehicle with sufficient Delta-V to impact the surface of the sun (assuming we can't send a couple of our engines through SCP-914, of course). :p
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Legatia
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Postby Legatia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:57 am

Congreveopia wrote:
Blorbs wrote:Accepted! Also, the ISA wont use your facilities, we have enough to handle without so you have them all to yourself :D

Debate session 682, on the merits and infeasibility of designing an automated cargo vehicle with sufficient Delta-V to impact the surface of the sun (assuming we can't send a couple of our engines through SCP-914, of course). :p


Run a SSME or a F1 on "Very fine"... oh boy, the possibilities!

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Postby Blorbs » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:05 am

Legatia wrote:
Congreveopia wrote:Debate session 682, on the merits and infeasibility of designing an automated cargo vehicle with sufficient Delta-V to impact the surface of the sun (assuming we can't send a couple of our engines through SCP-914, of course). :p


Run a SSME or a F1 on "Very fine"... oh boy, the possibilities!

Indeed
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Postby The Pacifican Islands » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:17 pm

I have an idea, but I don't know if this is the right place. For manned launches, I want to replace my aging Explorer II rockets (Expensive recoverable Soyuz ripoffs, 15 tons to LEO) with the Pegasus I (Scaled down Ares I ripoff, 10 tons to LEO). Do you guys think that a move like this is economical? It has a large SRB as first stage, then a hypergolic second stage. The Explorer II shuttlecraft (9 tons) would still be the same though, and deployed on the Pegasus I. Would this make sense? Would this save money in the long term?

EDIT: They both have the same upper stage
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