It's time for leftists to wake up before they destroy Europe

[Tierra Prime]

I actually understand where you're coming from and I somewhat sympathize and agree with your cause - the protection of national culture and way of life and limitations on the number of immigrants allowed into our countries in order to secure the distinct cultures of European countries. I agree with that. Obviously, we're faced with huge fundamental culture problems when we see over and over again how males of non-Western immigrant background top the criminal statistics, both in terms of sexual assaults against women and other types of violent crime. If people want to be in Europe, they need to want to become an integrated part of society and respect and adhere to the basic values of democracy, freedom and gender equality that our societies are build on. If they are not willing to do that, they shouldn't be here.

It's nice to see a reasonable position for once.

[Imperializt Russia]

Long story short, the left always wins.

Except in Russia. And China. And Vietnam. And France. When the left wins it becomes the right. Once in power leftists usually become conservative reactionaries. So the right, or at least the conservative reactionary element usually wins in the end.

Classical liberals are considered "right" or "libertarian" in America yet left in Russia and Hungary. So you first have to define what is right and what is left.

It was a simplistic joke based on the premise of the "left" being reformist.
Since society is never truly static and therefore continually progresses, society is technically reformist and therefore technically leftist.

I never claimed it to be factual.
Also personal bias.

[The Rich Port]

Except in Russia. And China. And Vietnam. And France. When the left wins it becomes the right. Once in power leftists usually become conservative reactionaries. So the right, or at least the conservative reactionary element usually wins in the end.

Classical liberals are considered "right" or "libertarian" in America yet left in Russia and Hungary. So you first have to define what is right and what is left.

It was a simplistic joke based on the premise of the "left" being reformist.
Since society is never truly static and therefore continually progresses, society is technically reformist and therefore technically leftist.

I never claimed it to be factual.
Also personal bias.

To be fair, conservative ideology doesn't claim change is bad. They USED to claim that, but even they eventually realized how stupid that is.

It's just that change that happens too quickly is bad.

So, there just needs to be LESS Muslim refugees coming to Europe seeking shelter from religious extremism.

[Novus America]

I actually understand where you're coming from and I somewhat sympathize and agree with your cause - the protection of national culture and way of life and limitations on the number of immigrants allowed into our countries in order to secure the distinct cultures of European countries. I agree with that. Obviously, we're faced with huge fundamental culture problems when we see over and over again how males of non-Western immigrant background top the criminal statistics, both in terms of sexual assaults against women and other types of violent crime. If people want to be in Europe, they need to want to become an integrated part of society and respect and adhere to the basic values of democracy, freedom and gender equality that our societies are build on. If they are not willing to do that, they shouldn't be here.

It's nice to see a reasonable position for once.

Exactly. Change does happen. But change has an infinite number of permutations. Change can be controlled. Directed. And can be bad.

Change to more misogyny is not a positive change. And thus efforts need to be made to ensure immigrants accept certain values.

[Brandenbourg-Anhalt]

I actually understand where you're coming from and I somewhat sympathize and agree with your cause - the protection of national culture and way of life and limitations on the number of immigrants allowed into our countries in order to secure the distinct cultures of European countries. I agree with that. Obviously, we're faced with huge fundamental culture problems when we see over and over again how males of non-Western immigrant background top the criminal statistics, both in terms of sexual assaults against women and other types of violent crime. If people want to be in Europe, they need to want to become an integrated part of society and respect and adhere to the basic values of democracy, freedom and gender equality that our societies are build on. If they are not willing to do that, they shouldn't be here.

It's nice to see a reasonable position for once.

It's nice to see a reasonable position for once.

Exactly. Change does happen. But change has a infinite number of permutations. Change can be controlled. Directed. And can be bad.

Change to more misogyny is not a positive change. And thus efforts need to be made to ensure immigrants accept certain values.

Agreed. I only hope that these basic sensible positions will not be allowed to be hijacked by far-right nazi nutjobs who want to take it even further by only wanting to replace the democratic and free societies with fascist dictatorships where all minorities are persecuted and the population is terrorized by a system characterized by complete regimentation.

[Novus America]

It's nice to see a reasonable position for once.

Exactly. Change does happen. But change has a infinite number of permutations. Change can be controlled. Directed. And can be bad.

Change to more misogyny is not a positive change. And thus efforts need to be made to ensure immigrants accept certain values.

Agreed. I only hope that these basic sensible positions will not be allowed to be hijacked by far-right nazi nutjobs who want to take it even further by only wanting to replace the democratic and free societies with fascist dictatorships where all minorities are persecuted and the population is terrorized by a system characterized by complete regimentation.

Agreed. Sadly there is a decided lack of reasonable and centrist discourse. It often becomes open borders vs banning immigration. Or even more extreme.

In both the US and Europe both sides seem to to be moving farther apart to extremes rather than closer to the center.

Of course this happened in post WWI Germany. And Russia during WWI. Growing extremism can lead to conflict and opression by the winning side.

[Kvatchdom]

Agreed. I only hope that these basic sensible positions will not be allowed to be hijacked by far-right nazi nutjobs who want to take it even further by only wanting to replace the democratic and free societies with fascist dictatorships where all minorities are persecuted and the population is terrorized by a system characterized by complete regimentation.

Agreed. Sadly there is a decided lack of reasonable and centrist discourse. It often becomes open borders vs banning immigration. Or even more extreme.

In both the US and Europe both sides seem to to be moving farther apart to extremes rather than closer to the center.

Of course this happened in post WWI Germany. And Russia during WWI. Growing extremism can lead to conflict and opression by the winning side.

There are laws in most European nations banning undemocratic political groups from ever running on elections. I'm afraid unless the governments learn to use this law to end the rise of extremism, history might repeat itself again.

[Novus America]

Agreed. Sadly there is a decided lack of reasonable and centrist discourse. It often becomes open borders vs banning immigration. Or even more extreme.

In both the US and Europe both sides seem to to be moving farther apart to extremes rather than closer to the center.

Of course this happened in post WWI Germany. And Russia during WWI. Growing extremism can lead to conflict and opression by the winning side.

There are laws in most European nations banning undemocratic political groups from ever running on elections. I'm afraid unless the governments learn to use this law to end the rise of extremism, history might repeat itself again.

Tryin to ban them does not work. The Nazis still run an win a few seats in Germany.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa ... of_Germany

Or they will run as members of an existing larger party. If the ideology exists it will find a a way. Most the extremists are smart enough to stay within the letter of the law.

Reactionary measures like bans are not the solution. Instead moderates need to actually start solving problems. If the mainstream parties fail people we seek alternatives.

The problem is the existing mainstream parties are often incompetent, corrupt and lead by weak fools.

[Saiwania]

And if people with the same approach as you are allowed to come to power, history will also repeat itself and we will be brought down by Adolf Hitler 2. And what was the result the first time we tried the far-right nazi experiment in the 30's and 40's: It was 50 million+ dead and a completely shattered Europe in a matter of just 6 years by the hands of nazis. Never again!

A major European war would actually be good for the continent in the long run, provided it doesn't go nuclear. With Europe wrecked, it would be poor and thus will experience a baby boom which will preserve the White racial base and characteristics which have defined Europe's peoples since antiquity. And think of all the jobs which will come from a Europe needing a complete rebuilding. It could even take the opportunity to change the energy infrastructure to be based upon completely renewable sources of energy and almost completely divorced from fossil fuels.

[Unitaristic Regions]

And if people with the same approach as you are allowed to come to power, history will also repeat itself and we will be brought down by Adolf Hitler 2. And what was the result the first time we tried the far-right nazi experiment in the 30's and 40's: It was 50 million+ dead and a completely shattered Europe in a matter of just 6 years by the hands of nazis. Never again!

A major European war would actually be good for the continent in the long run, provided it doesn't go nuclear. With Europe wrecked, it would be poor and thus will experience a baby boom which will preserve the White racial base and characteristics which have defined Europe's peoples since antiquity. And think of all the jobs which will come from a Europe needing a complete rebuilding. It could even take the opportunity to change the energy infrastructure to be based upon completely renewable sources of energy and almost completely divorced from fossil fuels.

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[Unitaristic Regions]

A major European war would actually be good for the continent in the long run, provided it doesn't go nuclear. With Europe wrecked, it would be poor and thus will experience a baby boom which will preserve the White racial base and characteristics which have defined Europe's peoples since antiquity. And think of all the jobs which will come from a Europe needing a complete rebuilding. It could even take the opportunity to change the energy infrastructure to be based upon completely renewable sources of energy and almost completely divorced from fossil fuels.

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*says cultural marxists want the downfall of the west, then says he wants Europe 'Wrecked'.

I just... I don't even... man...

[Kelinfort]

Migrant crisis: Coach full of British schoolchildren 'ATTACKED by Calais refugees'

I think this story is a sign that it is not safe for children to go to school in Europe anymore. No way I'd trust any public school system if I had to live in any European nation. Homeschooling is the only way. I hear home school is illegal in Germany but Merkel's government won't be able to do squat if most of all of the parents simultaneously pull their children out of school as a big act of civil disobedience.

You don't pull this shit when a school is shot in the US.

[The balkens]

I think this story is a sign that it is not safe for children to go to school in Europe anymore. No way I'd trust any public school system if I had to live in any European nation. Homeschooling is the only way. I hear home school is illegal in Germany but Merkel's government won't be able to do squat if most of all of the parents simultaneously pull their children out of school as a big act of civil disobedience.

You don't pull this shit when a school is shot in the US.

That would imply hes being rational.

[The Kievan People]

Liberal Nationalism yes.

A "Liberal Nationalist" circa I don't know, 1848, would be considered far right these days.

[Imperializt Russia]

And if people with the same approach as you are allowed to come to power, history will also repeat itself and we will be brought down by Adolf Hitler 2. And what was the result the first time we tried the far-right nazi experiment in the 30's and 40's: It was 50 million+ dead and a completely shattered Europe in a matter of just 6 years by the hands of nazis. Never again!

A major European war would actually be good for the continent in the long run, provided it doesn't go nuclear. With Europe wrecked, it would be poor and thus will experience a baby boom which will preserve the White racial base and characteristics which have defined Europe's peoples since antiquity. And think of all the jobs which will come from a Europe needing a complete rebuilding. It could even take the opportunity to change the energy infrastructure to be based upon completely renewable sources of energy and almost completely divorced from fossil fuels.

No, it'd be the same as after the last war. There'd be substantial immigration to make up a short-term population deficit.
And we'd probably revert to leftist governments to rebuild infrastructure.

So it'd probably be your worst nightmare.

Also that final sentence absolutely would not happen.
Renewables are resource and knowledge intensive, and access to both would be limited after a major war. Especially materials to make PV cells for example, which are already basically controlled by China. We'd go back to coal in a devastating war.

[The Rich Port]

And if people with the same approach as you are allowed to come to power, history will also repeat itself and we will be brought down by Adolf Hitler 2. And what was the result the first time we tried the far-right nazi experiment in the 30's and 40's: It was 50 million+ dead and a completely shattered Europe in a matter of just 6 years by the hands of nazis. Never again!

A major European war would actually be good for the continent in the long run, provided it doesn't go nuclear. With Europe wrecked, it would be poor and thus will experience a baby boom which will preserve the White racial base and characteristics which have defined Europe's peoples since antiquity. And think of all the jobs which will come from a Europe needing a complete rebuilding. It could even take the opportunity to change the energy infrastructure to be based upon completely renewable sources of energy and almost completely divorced from fossil fuels.

... Your idea to improve the European economy is mass death and billions in damages?

... That's, like, Islamic State stupid.

[Saiwania]

No, it'd be the same as after the last war. There'd be substantial immigration to make up a short-term population deficit. And we'd probably revert to leftist governments to rebuild infrastructure.

So it'd probably be your worst nightmare.

Is there any possible way to induce Europe to have a baby boom besides ensuring that it becomes as poor as possible?

I notice that only the really poor nations like Nigeria have above replacement level birth rates, which is unfortunate because in an ideal world it'd be the opposite. The rich have money to care for someone, but the poor can barely feed themselves much less offspring, so the poor typically starve to death or flood into developed countries; making the developed countries pay for them but not actually helping the undeveloped nation they're from become any more developed than before.

[Dahon]

A major European war would actually be good for the continent in the long run, provided it doesn't go nuclear. With Europe wrecked, it would be poor and thus will experience a baby boom which will preserve the White racial base and characteristics which have defined Europe's peoples since antiquity. And think of all the jobs which will come from a Europe needing a complete rebuilding. It could even take the opportunity to change the energy infrastructure to be based upon completely renewable sources of energy and almost completely divorced from fossil fuels.

... so.

How many times I do have to verbally destroy you with my superior knowledge of your history, along with the possible consequences of your wet dreams, before you shut the fuck up?

[Jochistan]

And if people with the same approach as you are allowed to come to power, history will also repeat itself and we will be brought down by Adolf Hitler 2. And what was the result the first time we tried the far-right nazi experiment in the 30's and 40's: It was 50 million+ dead and a completely shattered Europe in a matter of just 6 years by the hands of nazis. Never again!

A major European war would actually be good for the continent in the long run, provided it doesn't go nuclear. With Europe wrecked, it would be poor and thus will experience a baby boom which will preserve the White racial base and characteristics which have defined Europe's peoples since antiquity. And think of all the jobs which will come from a Europe needing a complete rebuilding. It could even take the opportunity to change the energy infrastructure to be based upon completely renewable sources of energy and almost completely divorced from fossil fuels.

>Would dump wife after getting her pregnant
>Wants to exploit the poor through hardship in order to bring about a personal utopia
>vindictive of his fellow man based solely on their ethnicity


And you call Islamic Moderates "cafeteria muslims"? Explain to me how consistent all of the above is to the traditionally accepted teachings of Jesus?

[Dahon]

... Your idea to improve the European economy is mass death and billions in damages?

... That's, like, Islamic State stupid.

So you're saying IS is as "white" as Saiwania is. Well... well... this is unexpected.

[Unnamed island state]

No, it'd be the same as after the last war. There'd be substantial immigration to make up a short-term population deficit. And we'd probably revert to leftist governments to rebuild infrastructure.

So it'd probably be your worst nightmare.

Is there any possible way to induce Europe to have a baby boom besides ensuring that it becomes as poor as possible?

I notice that only the really poor nations like Nigeria have above replacement level birth rates, which is unfortunate because in an ideal world it'd be the opposite. The rich have money to care for someone, but the poor can barely feed themselves much less offspring.

Wars don't necessarily lead to more babies anyway. France for example, had the lowest fertility rate in Europe for a while because of WW1.

[Imperializt Russia]

No, it'd be the same as after the last war. There'd be substantial immigration to make up a short-term population deficit. And we'd probably revert to leftist governments to rebuild infrastructure.

So it'd probably be your worst nightmare.

Is there any possible way to induce Europe to have a baby boom besides ensuring that it becomes as poor as possible?

I notice that only the really poor nations like Nigeria have above replacement level birth rates,

Because they have above average infant mortality.

[Brandenbourg-Anhalt]

And if people with the same approach as you are allowed to come to power, history will also repeat itself and we will be brought down by Adolf Hitler 2. And what was the result the first time we tried the far-right nazi experiment in the 30's and 40's: It was 50 million+ dead and a completely shattered Europe in a matter of just 6 years by the hands of nazis. Never again!

A major European war would actually be good for the continent in the long run, provided it doesn't go nuclear. With Europe wrecked, it would be poor and thus will experience a baby boom which will preserve the White racial base and characteristics which have defined Europe's peoples since antiquity. And think of all the jobs which will come from a Europe needing a complete rebuilding. It could even take the opportunity to change the energy infrastructure to be based upon completely renewable sources of energy and almost completely divorced from fossil fuels.

I think we have a troll here Or you belong in a mental institution.

[Esternial]

And if people with the same approach as you are allowed to come to power, history will also repeat itself and we will be brought down by Adolf Hitler 2. And what was the result the first time we tried the far-right nazi experiment in the 30's and 40's: It was 50 million+ dead and a completely shattered Europe in a matter of just 6 years by the hands of nazis. Never again!

A major European war would actually be good for the continent in the long run, provided it doesn't go nuclear. With Europe wrecked, it would be poor and thus will experience a baby boom which will preserve the White racial base and characteristics which have defined Europe's peoples since antiquity. And think of all the jobs which will come from a Europe needing a complete rebuilding. It could even take the opportunity to change the energy infrastructure to be based upon completely renewable sources of energy and almost completely divorced from fossil fuels.

Indeed losing all your troops opens up many slots towards your population limit, allowing you to train many fresh new units.

You seem quite good at strategy games but applying it to actual real life proves just that little bit harder, doesn't it?

[The Rich Port]

... Your idea to improve the European economy is mass death and billions in damages?

... That's, like, Islamic State stupid.

So you're saying IS is as "white" as Saiwania is. Well... well... this is unexpected.

Sad to say, but "white" is, currently, the new "stupid".

At least for one post.

A major European war would actually be good for the continent in the long run, provided it doesn't go nuclear. With Europe wrecked, it would be poor and thus will experience a baby boom which will preserve the White racial base and characteristics which have defined Europe's peoples since antiquity. And think of all the jobs which will come from a Europe needing a complete rebuilding. It could even take the opportunity to change the energy infrastructure to be based upon completely renewable sources of energy and almost completely divorced from fossil fuels.

I think we have a troll here Or you belong in a mental institution.

Or he needs to apologize to every comedian in the world.