Neutral Ground - an Open Discussion Thread

[Direwolf Defender]

Super funny. The defenders (with the exception of Morndul, whose argument makes no sense) don't have an argument against Ravania being a giant hypocrite so they attack Cormac's side-switching like it hasn't been done to death by now.

Get some new material, this shit went out of style before I even started playing.

I wasn't so much attacking Cormac's side-switching as I was mentioning the fact that Cormac personally ordered a defender military to do the thing he is now criticizing Ravania for before his latest side-switch. I had just put my WA on my Christmas nation because I was going to be unable to do update over the holidays, and this would enable defenders to pile on a "native delegate" if necessary (and it was Cormac who called me a native delegate in his post...). Cormac was the one that ordered troops to pre-emptively endorse me.

That said, I wasn't trying to make a big thing out of this, it was just banter.

You'll have to excuse me, I don't think I've ever seen a post by you before that wasn't making a big thing out of something.

[Drop Your Pants]

There, there, Codger. It'll be alright, some of us still remember the good old days.

And some of us just remember the old days, some good some bad but all better than the nitpicking of these days.

[Cormac Stark]

Super funny. The defenders (with the exception of Morndul, whose argument makes no sense) don't have an argument against Ravania being a giant hypocrite so they attack Cormac's side-switching like it hasn't been done to death by now.

Get some new material, this shit went out of style before I even started playing.

I wasn't so much attacking Cormac's side-switching as I was mentioning the fact that Cormac personally ordered a defender military to do the thing he is now criticizing Ravania for before his latest side-switch. I had just put my WA on my Christmas nation because I was going to be unable to do update over the holidays, and this would enable defenders to pile on a "native delegate" if necessary (and it was Cormac who called me a native delegate in his post...). Cormac was the one that ordered troops to pre-emptively endorse me.

I was only posting the orders relayed to me by a superior. Technically, yes, I was the one who gave the order, but the order didn't originate with me and wasn't my idea. *shrugs*

That said, I wasn't trying to make a big thing out of this, it was just banter.

You'll have to excuse me, I don't think I've ever seen a post by you before that wasn't making a big thing out of something.

That's probably down to you only popping in to play spam games or complain about raids in regions to which you don't actually contribute once in a while (coughosiriscoughprettymucheverywhereelsetoocough). *shrugging intensifies*

[RiderSyl]

[Bears Armed]

Technically, yes, I was the one who gave the order, but the order didn't originate with me and wasn't my idea. *shrugs*

Ah yes, the Nuremburg defense...

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Technically, yes, I was the one who gave the order, but the order didn't originate with me and wasn't my idea. *shrugs*

Ah yes, the Nuremburg defense...

Comparing Gameplay to Nazism is about as cool as comparing Gameplay to Rape.

[Topid]

Technically calling something a Nuremberg defense is not comparing something to Nazism because the term has been used to apply to the "only following orders" defense ever since the trials. It is a term that stands on its own now. Though generally referring to the following of superior orders not a subordinates suggestion someone just went along with.

[The Silver Sentinel]

Ah yes, the Nuremburg defense...

Comparing Gameplay to Nazism is about as cool as comparing Gameplay to Rape.

And ad hominem is bad form, but it didn't seem to stop you.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Comparing Gameplay to Nazism is about as cool as comparing Gameplay to Rape.

And ad hominem is bad form, but it didn't seem to stop you.

I wouldn't consider my...ehh, confusion concerning entirely conflicting statements made so closely in time to be an unjust ad hominen, per se.

[Tim-Opolis]

Technically calling something a Nuremberg defense is not comparing something to Nazism because the term has been used to apply to the "only following orders" defense ever since the trials. It is a term that stands on its own now. Though generally referring to the following of superior orders not a subordinates suggestion someone just went along with.

Yeah, just gonna quote that up, to second what Topid's saying. The Nuremburg Defense, as a term, has long since outgrown its reference to the Nuremburg Trials. It's literally the term now for stuff that's using the argument of "only following orders". One of the more notable non-Nuremburg examples would bet the My Lai Massacre, which used the argument, so it's certainly outgrown what it was originally referencing.

[RiderSyl]

The Nuremburg Defense, as a term, has long since outgrown its reference to the Nuremburg Trials.

This is news to me.

It would likely be news to the average person too.

[Tim-Opolis]

The Nuremburg Defense, as a term, has long since outgrown its reference to the Nuremburg Trials.

This is news to me.

It would likely be news to the average person too.

Probably so. I don't use the term actively, I'm just establishing that it's unlikely that BearsArmed is attempting to actually compare Invaders to Nazis, but rather to simply cite the terminology associated with the "I was just following orders" argument. According to the lovely source of Wikipedia, it might be better known as "Superior Orders". *shrugs*

[RiderSyl]

*shrugs*

No! It can't handle another--



Tim! Your shrug literally broke the game!

[Consular]

The Nuremburg Defense, as a term, has long since outgrown its reference to the Nuremburg Trials.

This is news to me.

It would likely be news to the average person too.

I think what Tim was saying is it is not necessarily a reference to Nazis anymore.

Godwins law all up in this thread.

[Tim-Opolis]

This is news to me.

It would likely be news to the average person too.

I think what Tim was saying is it is not necessarily a reference to Nazis anymore.

Godwins law all up in this thread.

Well, this is a chat thread afterall. It was doomed to happen at one point, I'm happy it happened in such a civilized fashion

[Consular]

The least active chat thread on the forums.

[Tim-Opolis]

The least active chat thread on the forums.

And that's the way we like it damn it! Plus, it's not like NSG where it's a chat thread amongst dozens of debate topics. I'd argue that with GP, we chat plenty outside of the chat thread since most of our chatter carries loose relation to whatever thread it's in due to the all-encompassing nature of some of the GP topics. We basically seem to go here more when we get bored of the GP topics. This is different to something like TET where it seems a large part of the community is TET-focussed rather than NSG as a whole.

[Consular]

It probably also doesn't help that the people who might chat in this thread tend to chat enough as it is through irc and other fancy mediums.

[The BlAAtschApen]

It probably also doesn't help that the people who might chat in this thread tend to chat enough as it is through irc and other fancy mediums.

*slaps you with a trout*

[Consular]

It probably also doesn't help that the people who might chat in this thread tend to chat enough as it is through irc and other fancy mediums.

*slaps you with a trout*

D:

[RiderSyl]

It probably also doesn't help that the people who might chat in this thread tend to chat enough as it is through irc and other fancy mediums.

*slaps you with a trout*

What a shot by the ol' sheep!
Let's see that in slow-motion!


Magnificent aim, and what a blow to the left temple! Consular is down and out- Or, should I say, down and trout!

[Great Kleomentia]

*slaps you with a trout*

What a shot by the ol' sheep!
Let's see that in slow-motion!


Magnificent aim, and what a blow to the left temple! Consular is down and out- Or, should I say, down and trout!

I swear, it's like you have a full HDD of reaction pics.

[Xoriet]

The least active chat thread on the forums.

It could be worse. We could be debating why Santa should be banned from NS.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Monty Pythons "Fish Slapping Dance" is way better than that.

[Bears Armed]

I'm just establishing that it's unlikely that Bears Armed is attempting to actually compare Invaders to Nazis, but rather to simply cite the terminology associated with the "I was just following orders" argument.

You're right.