What are your religious beliefs?

[Earth c-137 (Ancient)]

I didn't know we could do philosophies too!

Well, I'm primarily an absurdist

Yassss

I am in full and total devotion to Our Absurd Lord Albert Camus. He requires at least ten burnt offerings of tobacco daily, as well as the occasional nihilist. My lesser gods include Hunter S. Thompson, James Dean, and Thomas Muntzer.

That's a great quote.

Stuff doesn't make sense, but hey! We got like drugs, and late night political and philosophical discussions! Bring it on irrational existential conundrum!

[Ugatoo]

>implying that you can't quantify progression.

And how would you do so in an objective way, which cannot be argued against?

I would argue that an agrarian society is superior to hunter-gatherers, because it lead to food surpluses.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

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Baptists consider themselves "Baptists"

I've heard some Baptists claim that Baptisim? was the first religion. (which is false, obviously)

That's bullshit. I was raised in Free Will, independent, and Southern Baptist churches, and never once heard that. We always identified ourselves as Christians first. I've also never heard the "Baptism was the first religion." The prevailing attitude (to those that gave it thought at all) was that the early Church was the early Church, and a variety of sects sprang from such.

[United Marxist Nations]

And how would you do so in an objective way, which cannot be argued against?

I would argue that an agrarian society is superior to hunter-gatherers, because it lead to food surpluses.

What makes food surpluses superior?

[Firsthome]

You're lumping all the Lutherans together with the Mormons.

Baptists don't consider themselves "Christians"

Lutherans can't stand other Lutherans.



MAKE GIANT POLL OF DOOMITY DOOM DOOM

what

Wisconsin Lutheran Synod and Missouri Synod are Bible Literalists, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America isn't and also allows Gay pastors, Allowed Gay Marriage before it was cool, and allows Transgenders

We also allow "undesirables" (those people who believe in predestination) although I won't talk to them directly, they can come to the church and I'll help them if they need it. if they vote for someone I hate though they're getting a punch for christmas :>

[Firsthome]

Baptists consider themselves "Baptists"

I've heard some Baptists claim that Baptisim? was the first religion. (which is false, obviously)

That's bullshit. I was raised in Free Will, independent, and Southern Baptist churches, and never once heard that. We always identified ourselves as Christians first. I've also never heard the "Baptism was the first religion." The prevailing attitude (to those that gave it thought at all) was that the early Church was the early Church, and a variety of sects sprang from such.

Not talking about South Baptists.

You don't see South Baptists in 97% white town Pennsylvania (Get me out of here)

[Talvezout]

what

Wisconsin Lutheran Synod and Missouri Synod are Bible Literalists, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America isn't and also allows Gay pastors, Allowed Gay Marriage before it was cool, and allows Transgenders

We also allow "undesirables" (those people who believe in predestination) although I won't talk to them directly, they can come to the church and I'll help them if they need it. if they vote for someone I hate though they're getting a punch for christmas :>

Ah, I get your point now.

[The United Empire of New Missouri]

Catholic but raised Baptist.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

:rofl: That's a great quote.

Thank you.

Stuff doesn't make sense, but hey! We got like drugs, and late night political and philosophical discussions! Bring it on irrational existential conundrum!

Some of the best times in my life have been spent doing opiates and smoking cigarettes late into the night, discussing existential philosophy and political theory with a couple close friends.

[Firsthome]

<Talking about Northern Baptists

Oh. That's some strange Baptists ya got there then.

They're Lesser human beings.

They don't take evolution or Climate Change as facts, they can be in 10th grade and not know what "Phonics" are, and are incapable of pronouncing the words "Cynic" and "Imbecile" or reading aloud basic english without major stops and mispronunciations.

<oh, wait, that's all the kids in my class, not just the baptist.
( except the one moderate and the Liberals )
His sister is slightly better, she can read but her history is really, really bad >

[Ugatoo]

I would argue that an agrarian society is superior to hunter-gatherers, because it lead to food surpluses.

What makes food surpluses superior?

Not starving to death for one thing.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

That's bullshit. I was raised in Free Will, independent, and Southern Baptist churches, and never once heard that. We always identified ourselves as Christians first. I've also never heard the "Baptism was the first religion." The prevailing attitude (to those that gave it thought at all) was that the early Church was the early Church, and a variety of sects sprang from such.

Not talking about South Baptists.

You don't see South Baptists in 97% white town Pennsylvania (Get me out of here)

Notice the inclusion of Free Will and independent Baptist churches. My childhood was spent in those two, while my teenage years were Southern. I've fairly well-versed in Protestant theology.

And it's relevant because Southern Baptists tend to be quite confident and steadfast (one may say self-righteous) in their convictions, and I find it hard to believe more liberal Baptists would take those views but not Southern ones. So forgive me if I express severe doubts.

And I'm not sure what color has to do with it. Non-white Southern Baptists are almost nonexistent.

[Stonok]

Oh. That's some strange Baptists ya got there then.

They're Lesser human beings.

They don't take evolution or Climate Change as facts, they can be in 10th grade and not know what "Phonics" are, and are incapable of pronouncing the words "Cynic" and "Imbecile" or reading aloud basic english without major stops and mispronunciations.

Sounds exactly like the Southern Baptists here! They reject evolution, climate change, and pretty much everything that doesn't agree with their radically literal views of Genesis (Again, even thought the YEC perspective was invented by cults, and prior to that nobody interpreted Genesis literally). The Southern Baptists here are so radical they go insane if anyone even studies another denomination of Christianity (Speaking from first hand experience here).

[United Marxist Nations]

What makes food surpluses superior?

Not starving to death for one thing.

Why is this objectively good?

One could argue it keeps the population under control and therefore prevents resources from being exhausted.

Now, I wouldn't. But it could be.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Not starving to death for one thing.

Why is this objectively good?

One could argue it keeps the population under control and therefore prevents resources from being exhausted.

Now, I wouldn't. But it could be.

A belief in a person's right to life. Personal sovereignty and all that jazz - one needs food to ensure such.

Not that that's "objectively good," because nothing is objectively good or evil. But yeah.

[Ugatoo]

Not starving to death for one thing.

Why is this objectively good?

One could argue it keeps the population under control and therefore prevents resources from being exhausted.

Now, I wouldn't. But it could be.

We aren't arguing whether or not it is objectively good, we were arguing that it was objectively superior.

[Stonok]

Baptists consider themselves "Baptists"

I've heard some Baptists claim that Baptisim? was the first religion. (which is false, obviously)

That's bullshit. I was raised in Free Will, independent, and Southern Baptist churches, and never once heard that. We always identified ourselves as Christians first. I've also never heard the "Baptism was the first religion." The prevailing attitude (to those that gave it thought at all) was that the early Church was the early Church, and a variety of sects sprang from such.

I actually have heard one guy seem to say that the Baptists were the first Christians. He said "Peter is the only Independent Baptist Preacher I know that'd cuss". But i think it was said jokingly

[United Marxist Nations]

Why is this objectively good?

One could argue it keeps the population under control and therefore prevents resources from being exhausted.

Now, I wouldn't. But it could be.

We aren't arguing whether or not it is objectively good, we were arguing that it was objectively superior.

Same thing. Why is it objectively superior? I laid out an argument as to why someone could consider it inferior: overpopulation.

But even without that, why is it superior?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

That's bullshit. I was raised in Free Will, independent, and Southern Baptist churches, and never once heard that. We always identified ourselves as Christians first. I've also never heard the "Baptism was the first religion." The prevailing attitude (to those that gave it thought at all) was that the early Church was the early Church, and a variety of sects sprang from such.

I actually have heard one guy seem to say that the Baptists were the first Christians. He said "Peter is the only Independent Baptist Preacher I know that'd cuss". But i think it was said jokingly

Yeah, I'd say that was probably a joke.

Like, I've heard the attitude that Baptism/Protestantism is closest to the basic/original Christian message (not endorsing this, just saying). But never have I heard a Baptist identify as a Baptist before identifying as a Christian, or saying they were the original followers of Christ.

[United Marxist Nations]

Baptists consider themselves "Baptists"

I've heard some Baptists claim that Baptisim? was the first religion. (which is false, obviously)

That's bullshit. I was raised in Free Will, independent, and Southern Baptist churches, and never once heard that. We always identified ourselves as Christians first. I've also never heard the "Baptism was the first religion." The prevailing attitude (to those that gave it thought at all) was that the early Church was the early Church, and a variety of sects sprang from such.

There is a Baptist Church here that I once sat in on (I was spending the night with a friend, and ended up going to his Church to stay longer), and they implied that, because it was "John the Baptist", Baptism (of the sect kind) must go back to the Apostle.

They also showed the Passion of the Christ, which my parents were rather upset about, because we were only about 9 at the time.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

We aren't arguing whether or not it is objectively good, we were arguing that it was objectively superior.

Same thing. Why is it objectively superior? I laid out an argument as to why someone could consider it inferior: overpopulation.

But even without that, why is it superior?

Ethics and morals aren't objective in the first place.

I know I'm not in this argument, but the fact that it's happening mildly irks me.

[Firsthome]

That's bullshit. I was raised in Free Will, independent, and Southern Baptist churches, and never once heard that. We always identified ourselves as Christians first. I've also never heard the "Baptism was the first religion." The prevailing attitude (to those that gave it thought at all) was that the early Church was the early Church, and a variety of sects sprang from such.

There is a Baptist Church here that I once sat in on (I was spending the night with a friend, and ended up going to his Church to stay longer), and they implied that, because it was "John the Baptist", Baptism (of the sect kind) must go back to the Apostle.

They also showed the Passion of the Christ, which my parents were rather upset about, because we were only about 9 at the time.

What's the Passion of (the) Christ?
(unrelated)
You're a Stalinist? Lenin didn't even LIKE Stalin.

Lenin was better, and Trotsky probably would have been better too, if his plans didn't involve worldwide domination.

[Talvezout]

There is a Baptist Church here that I once sat in on (I was spending the night with a friend, and ended up going to his Church to stay longer), and they implied that, because it was "John the Baptist", Baptism (of the sect kind) must go back to the Apostle.

They also showed the Passion of the Christ, which my parents were rather upset about, because we were only about 9 at the time.

What's the Passion of (the) Christ?

A really gory, if accurate drama about the final hours of Jesus

It's actually pretty alright

[Ugatoo]

Same thing. Why is it objectively superior? I laid out an argument as to why someone could consider it inferior: overpopulation.

But even without that, why is it superior?

Ethics and morals aren't objective in the first place.

I know I'm not in this argument, but the fact that it's happening mildly irks me.

As soon as he said quantifiable superiority and morals were the same thing I was out

[Prussia-Steinbach]

There is a Baptist Church here that I once sat in on (I was spending the night with a friend, and ended up going to his Church to stay longer), and they implied that, because it was "John the Baptist", Baptism (of the sect kind) must go back to the Apostle.

They also showed the Passion of the Christ, which my parents were rather upset about, because we were only about 9 at the time.

What's the Passion of (the) Christ?
(unrelated)
You're a Stalinist? Lenin didn't even LIKE Stalin.

Lenin was better, and Trotsky probably would have been better too, if his plans didn't involve worldwide domination.

You've really never heard of it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passion_of_the_Christ

And you're right, that's totally unrelated, and therefore does not belong in this thread. Not to mention UMN is not a Stalinist, and Trotsky was a divisive liberal opportunist who deserved an ice pick much earlier than he got it.