Would You Kill God?

[Ugatoo]

Bigfoot has been good to me.

That is a creature that wanders the woods. What good does it do you?

Exactly as much as God does for you.

[Korhal IVV]

That is a creature that wanders the woods. What good does it do you?

Exactly as much as God does for you.

There has been "footage" of Bigfoot so there is 4.3% chance that it is real wahhaha

[Washington Resistance Army]

Exactly as much as God does for you.

There has been "footage" of Bigfoot so there is 4.3% chance that it is real wahhaha

I'm gonna guess you don't have any sources for that number?

[Camicon]

Protects me when I go on hikes. Keeps bears from eating me, clearly, as I haven't been eaten by any bears.

uhhh

Bigfoot must obviously possess supernatural Bear-protecting powers. Probably a bunch of other powers too. And he must be omnipotent, to know to protect people from being eaten by bears and other things all over the world.

Guys, guys, I think Bigfoot is God.

New question: would you kill Bigfoot-God?

[Washington Resistance Army]

uhhh

Bigfoot must obviously possess supernatural Bear-protecting powers. Probably a bunch of other powers too. And he must be omnipotent, to know to protect people from being eaten by bears and other things all over the world.

Guys, guys, I think Bigfoot is God.

New question: would you kill Bigfoot-God?

Hell no, after Stone Colds story about Bigfoot I could never bring myself to do that

[Ugatoo]

uhhh

Bigfoot must obviously possess supernatural Bear-protecting powers. Probably a bunch of other powers too. And he must be omnipotent, to know to protect people from being eaten by bears and other things all over the world.

Guys, guys, I think Bigfoot is God.

New question: would you kill Bigfoot-God?

No, there is actually some evidence of Bigfoot :^)

[Korhal IVV]

There has been "footage" of Bigfoot so there is 4.3% chance that it is real wahhaha

I'm gonna guess you don't have any sources for that number?

The number is a joke but not the footage

[The Alma Mater]

That is a creature that wanders the woods. What good does it do you?

Protects me when I go on hikes. Keeps bears from eating me, clearly, as I haven't been eaten by any bears.

No, that's Putin

[Radiatia]

Would you kill God?

It turns out that Christianity is correct. God is real. And the man who knocked on your door is actually God. He tells you "As I have judged Man, so too shall Man judge Me." You are then handed a big red button labeled "Kill God." Do you push the button?

Keep in mind, you don't know how this will affect the afterlife, the material universe, and people's souls. What happens to dead people? What happens to the living? You don't know. All you know is that God will cease to exist if you push the button. Will you push it?

I personally would push the button. I feel that this would be a logical conclusion to an existence of subservience to God, and simply inevitable.


YOU KNOW 100% THAT GOD IS REAL AND THE MAN WITH THE BIG BUTTON IS GOD IN THIS SCENARIO.

GOD WON'T DESTROY THE WORLD OR KILL YOU IF YOU PUSH THE BUTTON. HOWEVER, THE WORLD OR YOU MAY CTE AS A NATURAL CONSEQUENCE OF GOD'S DEATH, BUT YOU CANNOT BE SURE OF THIS.

If the Christian god existed? Yes, without a moment's hesitation. I was saying to a religious friend of mine recently that if that god existed, I would sooner go to hell than enter heaven on his terms.

This is a god who thinks that giving children bone cancer is acceptable, who thinks that "punishing" people for the actions of their ancestors is justified and who is apparently only willing to be assuaged by a human sacrifice.

That's not a god I want to be hanging around with all eternity.

[Neutraligon]

Stop evangelizing, and perhaps atheists will become less vocal as well. One can't ask one group to stop without considering the other should stop as well.

So we are to let people go to hell while we sit on our hands?

You previously said people who do not here about Jesus do not go to hell. Have you changed your mind?

[Gim]

So we are to let people go to hell while we sit on our hands?

You previously said people who do not here about Jesus do not go to hell. Have you changed your mind?

Well, atheists can hear about Jesus in the past and then change their position, saying that God does not exist. That is a willful denial of God or Jesus.

[Neutraligon]

You previously said people who do not here about Jesus do not go to hell. Have you changed your mind?

Well, atheists can hear about Jesus in the past and then change their position, saying that God does not exist. That is a willful denial of God or Jesus.

If no one ever mentions Jesus then there will be no willful denial and thus no one will go to hell. The best thing people can then do is to not talk about Jesus. As it is the people evangelizing are partially at fault for all the people in hell. Oh and...didn't Korhal already mention that god knows who will believe anyway? Thus there is no point in evangelizing.

[Gim]

Well, atheists can hear about Jesus in the past and then change their position, saying that God does not exist. That is a willful denial of God or Jesus.

If no one ever mentions Jesus then there will be no willful denial and thus no one will go to hell. The best thing people can then do is to not talk about Jesus. As it is the people evangelizing are partially at fault for all the people in hell. Oh and...didn't Korhal already mention that god knows who will believe anyway? Thus there is no point in evangelizing.

No, I mean that once you meet Jesus spiritually and deny Him, that could constitute as willful denial.
Just because you are evangelized does not mean you see Jesus or God spiritually.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

So, why did he allow the stain to come into existence in the first place? You're kinda making him sound incompetent.

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He doesn't intervene in births

He's the bastard that came up with such a shitty creation. If everything is according to God's will, if he is omnipotent and omniscient, if he knew what would happen in any course of action he took, everything bad and evil that exists is his fault.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

You previously said people who do not here about Jesus do not go to hell. Have you changed your mind?

Well, atheists can hear about Jesus in the past and then change their position, saying that God does not exist. That is a willful denial of God or Jesus.

Even if one desperately wants to believe but can find no reason to do so or proof for his existence? What if your most sincere desire is for God to be real, but you can't make yourself blindly follow something you have no choice but to see as equivalent to the tooth fairy?

[Neutraligon]

If no one ever mentions Jesus then there will be no willful denial and thus no one will go to hell. The best thing people can then do is to not talk about Jesus. As it is the people evangelizing are partially at fault for all the people in hell. Oh and...didn't Korhal already mention that god knows who will believe anyway? Thus there is no point in evangelizing.

No, I mean that once you meet Jesus spiritually and deny Him, that could constitute as willful denial.
Just because you are evangelized does not mean you see Jesus or God spiritually.

Then it is likely no one will go to hell, since most atheists will claim they have never actually met Jesus spiritually and evangelizing is still useless. Oh and that still doesn't answer the part about god knowing who will not believe.

[Gim]

No, I mean that once you meet Jesus spiritually and deny Him, that could constitute as willful denial.
Just because you are evangelized does not mean you see Jesus or God spiritually.

Then it is likely no one will go to hell, since most atheists will claim they have never actually met Jesus spiritually and evangelizing is still useless. Oh and that still doesn't answer the part about god knowing who will not believe.

Most, not all. You're right.

[Jiakros]

I'd say, yeah, you do a fine job god, you fine.

[Immoren]

Well, atheists can hear about Jesus in the past and then change their position, saying that God does not exist. That is a willful denial of God or Jesus.

If no one ever mentions Jesus then there will be no willful denial and thus no one will go to hell. The best thing people can then do is to not talk about Jesus. As it is the people evangelizing are partially at fault for all the people in hell. Oh and...didn't Korhal already mention that god knows who will believe anyway? Thus there is no point in evangelizing.

Why i am always reminded of this quote when this issue comes up
"The gods of the Disc have never bothered much about judging the souls of the dead, and so people only go to hell if that's where they believe, in their deepest heart, that they deserve to go. Which they won't do if they don't know about it. This explains why it is so important to shoot missionaries on sight."

[Prussia-Steinbach]

No, I mean that once you meet Jesus spiritually and deny Him, that could constitute as willful denial.
Just because you are evangelized does not mean you see Jesus or God spiritually.

Then it is likely no one will go to hell, since most atheists will claim they have never actually met Jesus spiritually and evangelizing is still useless. Oh and that still doesn't answer the part about god knowing who will not believe.

I believed for most of my life. Very sincerely. Until I actually met people that weren't Protestant Christians, moved out of an insular, closed-minded town, and learned about critical thinking and the like.

Looking back on it, it was all indoctrination. I would have maintained at the time I knew God was real. But, I didn't. I didn't have a single damn reason to. No prayer or church attendance or tithe helped me one bit. Have I met Jesus spiritually?

[Korhal IVV]

So we are to let people go to hell while we sit on our hands?

You previously said people who do not here about Jesus do not go to hell. Have you changed your mind?

I never said that. What I said that they suffer the least. The rejectors suffer the most. Repent or God won't forgive you. One or another.

[Camicon]

If no one ever mentions Jesus then there will be no willful denial and thus no one will go to hell. The best thing people can then do is to not talk about Jesus. As it is the people evangelizing are partially at fault for all the people in hell. Oh and...didn't Korhal already mention that god knows who will believe anyway? Thus there is no point in evangelizing.

No, I mean that once you meet Jesus spiritually and deny Him, that could constitute as willful denial.
Just because you are evangelized does not mean you see Jesus or God spiritually.

I was raised as a Roman Catholic and I identified as Roman Catholic for my entire childhood. I've never "spiritually met" God. Does my being an atheist now constitute "willful [spiritual] denial" of God? Even though I never had any choice in the matter when I was a child? Though I may have believed the lies that the pastor told me, is the fact that I never believed them after I took an honest, critical look at them at all relevant? Does a person need to have a crisis of faith, before their faith is valid?

[Washington Resistance Army]

You previously said people who do not here about Jesus do not go to hell. Have you changed your mind?

I never said that. What I said that they suffer the least. The rejectors suffer the most. Repent or God won't forgive you. One or another.

Why should I have to repent for your gods mistakes?

[Gim]

No, I mean that once you meet Jesus spiritually and deny Him, that could constitute as willful denial.
Just because you are evangelized does not mean you see Jesus or God spiritually.

I was raised as a Roman Catholic and I identified as Roman Catholic for my entire childhood. I've never "spiritually met" God. Does my being an atheist now constitute "willful [spiritual] denial" of God? Even though I never had any choice in the matter when I was a child? Though I may have believed the lies that the pastor told me, is the fact that I never believed them after I took an honest, critical look at them at all relevant? Does a person need to have a crisis of faith, before their faith is valid?

No. You've never spiritually met God. You don't know what the presence of God feels like. You haven't experienced it.

[Neutraligon]

Then it is likely no one will go to hell, since most atheists will claim they have never actually met Jesus spiritually and evangelizing is still useless. Oh and that still doesn't answer the part about god knowing who will not believe.

Most, not all. You're right.

So again evangelizing is useless and or harmful and should not happen. Either god knows who will have faith and thus evangelizing is completely useless as it is already set who will go to hell or God does not know but spreading the word about Jesus is the cause of many people going to hell (people who have never heard of Jesus do not go to hell), or evangelizing does not allow people to meet god spiritually and is completely useless as it will have no effect or again it is what causes people to go to hell since if they had not heard about Jesus they would never have met him spiritually *whatever that means).