[US Election 2016] Republican Primary Megathread

[Arkinesia]

I'm pretty sure you are the one contained in a bubble. If you are truly dismissing the danger of refugees I don't know what to tell you. Some people don't believe it until they see it right in front of them. Granted ISIS could never conventionally take on a western country but Paris akin attacks are possible. You can't always assume everything will be hunky-dory and fine, that's extremely ignorant.

Living in fear of an insignificant risk is ludicrous. The US is not the EU.

Hey man, there might be a terrorist among those thousands of refugees, better ban them! But hands off my guns! Just because ONE LOONY shot up a school doesn't mean we need to know anything about the people buying guns! Duh! Second Amendment! Let's institute a religious test to deal with these psycho Muslims trying to rape my children! What, a First Amendment violation, no! We'll just make sure they're all Christians. It's totes legal, brah!

God, I listen to people in my own party sometimes, and just shake my head. What the fuck is wrong with this country?

[Trumpostan]

I'm generally skeptical of anyone who says "we need to bolster the unions," as that implies the government is getting cozy with the unions.

Unions are needed as a counterbalance because the government is so cozy with corporations.

[Trumpostan]

Honestly, Rubio is the only sane GOP candidate. I think Kasich's tax policy is fine, but he seems incompetent in the rest.

Unfortunately Rubio joined the Christianic State wing of the GOP (Carson, Cruz, Huckabee, Santorum ea).

Rubio: god's rules trump Supreme Court decisions

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) says religious believers are called to “ignore” laws that violate their faith.

“In essence, if we are ever ordered by a government authority to personally violate and sin — violate God’s law and sin — if we’re ordered to stop preaching the Gospel, if we’re ordered to perform a same-sex marriage as someone presiding over it, we are called to ignore that,” Rubio said in an interview with CBN on Tuesday.

“So when those two come into conflict, God’s rules always win,” he added.

Hi there Marco, I'm a member of the Church of Perpetual Exemption, my beliefs call for an exemption on all tax laws. I am called by my religion to ignore all tax law. Oh wait, that is not what you meant, is it?

If Rubio or one of his fellow Christianic Staters wins the election:

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the [insert exact version identifier] Bible against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental thought process; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. God is great.

Vote Christianic State! Hey they're better than ISIS because they don't throw gays off of buildings... yet.

US Christians make the mistake of thinking that religion = christianity. Not everyone that is religious, is a christian. There are thousands of recognized religions (many of them variations of others). Which one is the one we're gonna base laws on, Marco? Which version of 'God' is real and which ones are not? Not even all christian denominations hold uniform beliefs. And that only underlines that religion is no basis for civil laws.

[Khadgar]

The GOP's Self Inflicted Wound

[Ashmoria]

Besides his ideas regarding keeping corporations from relocating offshore (an idea that he shares with Sanders), what about him do you see as Presidential? Also, aren't you concerned about the fact that not a single controversial issuance of his during that campaign has been found to be completely true, and that three quarters have actually been found to be false to varying degrees?

please dont use politifact as a source

I view him as presidential because Trump is a businessman. He knows how to manage money well, and I for one would support him being in the white house, I agree with his stance on Syrian Refugees, and most other social issues, Remember when Sanders got his mic taken by BLM protesters? I also don't want a pushover like that in office

actually politifact is a pretty good source. not because of their conclusions--you might agree or disagree with them, I find myself disagreeing fairly frequently--but because they give their REASONS and set out the facts of the issue and you can read THOSE to figure out on your own what the truth is.

[Trumpostan]

please dont use politifact as a source

The writer of that article works at an institution that venerates Reagan and Thatcher... sounds to me like a case of 'I pick the research that confirms my bias'.

Maybe the simple reason that Politifact generally rates D's as more truthful than R's is simply because it is true? I mean do these people think we collectively forgot the horror years that encapsuled the W presidency? You know, the years with the Rove e-mail scandal and a dozen attacks on embassies yielding 60+ deaths and zero investigations. Plus the lies about Iraq, the destruction of the economy, tax cuts for the rich etc... do these people seriously expect people to have no pre 2009 recollections?

[Khadgar]

please dont use politifact as a source

The writer of that article works at an institution that venerates Reagan and Thatcher... sounds to me like a case of 'I pick the research that confirms my bias'.

Maybe the simple reason that Politifact generally rates D's as more truthful than R's is simply because it is true? I mean do these people think we collectively forgot the horror years that encapsuled the W presidency? You know, the years with the Rove e-mail scandal and a dozen attacks on embassies yielding 60+ deaths and zero investigations. Plus the lies about Iraq, the destruction of the economy, tax cuts for the rich etc... do these people seriously expect people to have no pre 2009 recollections?

Voters don't remember anything past a single cycle.

[Northern Davincia]

please dont use politifact as a source

The writer of that article works at an institution that venerates Reagan and Thatcher... sounds to me like a case of 'I pick the research that confirms my bias'.

Maybe the simple reason that Politifact generally rates D's as more truthful than R's is simply because it is true? I mean do these people think we collectively forgot the horror years that encapsuled the W presidency? You know, the years with the Rove e-mail scandal and a dozen attacks on embassies yielding 60+ deaths and zero investigations. Plus the lies about Iraq, the destruction of the economy, tax cuts for the rich etc... do these people seriously expect people to have no pre 2009 recollections?

-Bush never lied about Iraq. Intelligence gathered from the time heavily supported the existence of WMD's.
-The destruction of the economy had little to do with Bush's actions. The leading cause of the Great Recession can be traced back to the banks, not the executive branch.
-Cuts were given to all tax payers. Why only mention the cuts made for high-income earners (i.e. job creators)?

[Gauthier]

-Bush never lied about Iraq. Intelligence gathered from the time heavily supported the existence of WMD's.

George W. Bush’s CIA briefer admits Iraq WMD “intelligence” was a lie

[New Jerzylvania]

-Bush never lied about Iraq. Intelligence gathered from the time heavily supported the existence of WMD's.

George W. Bush’s CIA briefer admits Iraq WMD “intelligence” was a lie

Some old news for most of us.

[The United Territories of Providence]

There's so much ignorance floating around about terrorism and the refugees. I feel like some things need to be cleared up.

Since 9/11, over 785,000 refugees have been admitted to the US. 12 Have been arrested or removed for suspected terrorism. So about one one-thousandth of a percent. Also, none were Syrian.

Since 2003 we've taken in over 127,000 Iraqis
Since 2005 we've taken in over 10,000 Afghans
Since 2011 we've taken in 2,165 Syrians

IT IS NOT EASY TO GET TO AMERICA AS A REFUGEE. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE SYRIAN. That apparently needs to be in caps because some of you can see facts and ignore them, so maybe they need to be screamed at you.

This is what a Syrian immigrant goes through

They apply to the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (less than 1% are accepted). So far this year, 23,092 Syrians were referred by the UN. But before they can be referred, they do several interviews and background checks. Then they are referred to the State Department for security screenings by the National Counter Terrorism Center, The FBI, The DHS, and a special layer by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services fraud detection security directors. Then they're finger printed, and those prints are run through the bio-metric databases of the FBI, DHS, and Department of Defense. Then they are given mandatory health screenings, they are in enrolled in American Culture classes and throughout this process, the government is doing continuous background checks to see if new criminal information has appeared. In the end, we had about 2,000 refugees. This is all before they can even step on a plane, and the process can take 18-24 months.

So don't tell me it's easy.

The way terrorists get in is through our flawed VISA program, every hijacker on 9/11 got in that way. NONE were refugees. France and the EU don't have a system nearly as rigorous as ours, so it's not surprising there's a frequency of terrorism that we don't see. However, in Paris, those attackers weren't refugees. So....There's that.

[New Jerzylvania]

How it will end for those folks drinking Trump's Kool-aid...

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Lol, we'll see, he's the best bet regarding economic ideas, when will leftists learn that taking someone else's money and redistributing to lazy people is not a proper way to run an economy? I'd rather be drinking Koolaid than liquid

Bernie

Sanders

Your crowd has already redistributed someone else's money to the greedy that have no need for it with those disproportionate Bush Tax cuts and further back with Reagan's raid on Social Security in 1983 which has cost your so called "lazy" working people over two trillion out of the SS trust fund.

Ronald Reagan Going Down

[Northern Davincia]

-Bush never lied about Iraq. Intelligence gathered from the time heavily supported the existence of WMD's.

George W. Bush’s CIA briefer admits Iraq WMD “intelligence” was a lie

I tend to discredit Salon as an unbiased source.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/18/stop- ... ving-wmds/
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pet ... t-iraq-war
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for- ... arden.html

[The United Territories of Providence]

Lol, we'll see, he's the best bet regarding economic ideas, when will leftists learn that taking someone else's money and redistributing to lazy people is not a proper way to run an economy? I'd rather be drinking Koolaid than liquid

Bernie

Sanders

Your crowd has already redistributed someone else's money to the greedy that have no need for it with those disproportionate Bush Tax cuts and further back with Reagan's raid on Social Security in 1983 which has cost your so called "lazy" working people over two trillion out of the SS trust fund.

Ronald Reagan Going Down

That second one is mostly false

But I agree with your overall point

[The United Territories of Providence]

George W. Bush’s CIA briefer admits Iraq WMD “intelligence” was a lie

I tend to discredit Salon as an unbiased source.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/18/stop- ... ving-wmds/
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pet ... t-iraq-war

But "dailycaller" totally unbiased?

[Gauthier]

George W. Bush’s CIA briefer admits Iraq WMD “intelligence” was a lie

I tend to discredit Salon as an unbiased source.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/18/stop- ... ving-wmds/
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pet ... t-iraq-war

Please I dare you to call the BBC biased.

Iraq: The spies who fooled the world

[Northern Davincia]

I tend to discredit Salon as an unbiased source.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/18/stop- ... ving-wmds/
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pet ... t-iraq-war

But "dailycaller" totally unbiased?

The thing about sources is that they're a dime a dozen. I was shown a biased source, and I responded with one.
The article from the CIA should prove free from favoritism.

[Khadgar]

But "dailycaller" totally unbiased?

The thing about sources is that they're a dime a dozen. I was shown a biased source, and I responded with one.
The article from the CIA should prove free from favoritism.

The article from the CIA is from 2004 referring to Saddam's desires in 1991.

[New Jerzylvania]

Your crowd has already redistributed someone else's money to the greedy that have no need for it with those disproportionate Bush Tax cuts and further back with Reagan's raid on Social Security in 1983 which has cost your so called "lazy" working people over two trillion out of the SS trust fund.

Ronald Reagan Going Down

That second one is mostly false

But I agree with your overall point

Conceded. Replaced second spoiler with an undeniable truth. The 1983 Reagan theft of Social Security funds by replacing them with non negotiable bonds is a fact though, no matter.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Donald Trump drops 12 points in the polls in one week.

[West Aurelia]

"I'm probably the least racist person on Earth."
- Donald Trump

[Wallenburg]

Donald Trump drops 12 points in the polls in one week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmw07nzRA3I

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Donald Trump says he never met the reporter he mocked, reporter says that they were on a first-name basis and met "about a dozen times".

[Wallenburg]

Donald Trump says he never met the reporter he mocked, reporter says that they were on a first-name basis and met "about a dozen times".

I think I know what's wrong with Trump. He has a severe case of dual personality disorder.

[Romalae]

Donald Trump drops 12 points in the polls in one week.

These are favorability polls, and not the "who do you support" polls we typically see on RealClearPolitics, right?

I ask because the article says Trump's drop was 31 from 43, but in the RCP average Trump has never been at 43. The farthest he's ever gone is 30.5.