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Favorite AoE or spin-off game? (including expansions)

Age of Empires classic
1
2%
Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings
26
51%
Age of Empires III
16
31%
Age of Mythology
3
6%
Age of Empires Online
2
4%
Other
3
6%
 
Total votes : 51

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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:34 pm

Gim wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Use archers. They literally MASSACRE Teutonic Knights.


I didn't know that, but I'm sure it works, because I'd make a horde of arrow-shooting cavaliers, and destroy enemies before they come near them and attack them. :p

Help! Mangudai too OP please nerf!
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Postby Gim » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:36 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Gim wrote:
I didn't know that, but I'm sure it works, because I'd make a horde of arrow-shooting cavaliers, and destroy enemies before they come near them and attack them. :p

Help! Mangudai too OP please nerf!


Use onagers and bombers, and they'll be eradicated. :D

To be honest, I found Mongols to be quite weak in AoE 2, for some reason. I personally prefer the Chinese, Korean, Britons, and the Mayans. :p
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:38 pm

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Outer Sparta wrote:Help! Mangudai too OP please nerf!


Use onagers and bombers, and they'll be eradicated. :D

To be honest, I found Mongols to be quite weak in AoE 2, for some reason. I personally prefer the Chinese, Korean, Britons, and the Mayans. :p

No, siege weapons will be annihilated because Mangudai have a siege bonus and can easily run away.
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Postby Gim » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:40 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Gim wrote:
Use onagers and bombers, and they'll be eradicated. :D

To be honest, I found Mongols to be quite weak in AoE 2, for some reason. I personally prefer the Chinese, Korean, Britons, and the Mayans. :p

No, siege weapons will be annihilated because Mangudai have a siege bonus and can easily run away.


Siege weapons are horrible against archery. You're right. However, bombers have longer range, so if they are behind a wall and attacking the Mangudai, there is some chance the latter will not be able to counterattack.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:41 pm

Gim wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:No, siege weapons will be annihilated because Mangudai have a siege bonus and can easily run away.


Siege weapons are horrible against archery. You're right. However, bombers have longer range, so if they are behind a wall and attacking the Mangudai, there is some chance the latter will not be able to counterattack.

Bombard cannons have sufficient range, but are inaccurate and have a long minimum range. Mangudai are still fast, so they'd penetrate that minimum range.
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Postby Gim » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:43 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Gim wrote:
Siege weapons are horrible against archery. You're right. However, bombers have longer range, so if they are behind a wall and attacking the Mangudai, there is some chance the latter will not be able to counterattack.

Bombard cannons have sufficient range, but are inaccurate and have a long minimum range. Mangudai are still fast, so they'd penetrate that minimum range.


True, yes. I forgot about the fact they can move away. :lol2:

Oh yeah, also, am I the one who finds villagers to be most effective against battering rams? :p
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Postby New Tuva SSR » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:44 pm

Huns can be very OP, as they can divert more resources outside of building houses. Therefore, they can easily migrate. I still wonder why the Mongols did not get this feature.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:44 pm

Gim wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Bombard cannons have sufficient range, but are inaccurate and have a long minimum range. Mangudai are still fast, so they'd penetrate that minimum range.


True, yes. I forgot about the fact they can move away. :lol2:

Oh yeah, also, am I the one who finds villagers to be most effective against battering rams? :p

Spanish villagers urmagerd!
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Postby Gim » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:45 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Gim wrote:
True, yes. I forgot about the fact they can move away. :lol2:

Oh yeah, also, am I the one who finds villagers to be most effective against battering rams? :p

Spanish villagers urmagerd!


It was hilarious, because, once, I sent about fifty villagers outside my base to fight off the rams. They all died within minutes. :D
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:46 pm

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Outer Sparta wrote:Spanish villagers urmagerd!


It was hilarious, because, once, I sent about fifty villagers outside my base to fight off the rams. They all died within minutes. :D

Rams melt against melee units.
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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:47 pm

Who voted "Other", and what game are you thinking of?
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Postby Gim » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:48 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Gim wrote:
It was hilarious, because, once, I sent about fifty villagers outside my base to fight off the rams. They all died within minutes. :D

Rams melt against melee units.


However, come on, villagers are not melee units. They're just....villagers, if not builders. :D
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:48 pm

The Wolven League wrote:Who voted "Other", and what game are you thinking of?

I did, and I was referencing Forgotten Empires, which practically is a mod.
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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:50 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Who voted "Other", and what game are you thinking of?

I did, and I was referencing Forgotten Empires, which practically is a mod.

Note the "including expansions" in the poll question

And Forgotten Empires is an expansion. Based off a mod, though.
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Postby Gim » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:53 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:I did, and I was referencing Forgotten Empires, which practically is a mod.

Note the "including expansions" in the poll question

And Forgotten Empires is an expansion. Based off a mod, though.


What's the difference? More nations and maps?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:55 pm

Aztec monks wave their skirts to convince soldiers to join their side
A civilisation that starts out with 3 male villagers can still reproduce
Walls break down after a few strikes of a ram, but the stomach of a villager can take a lot more of those
One line of trees will block any unit, no one was brave enough in the Middle Ages to go through a forest
When Huns build a wonder, they make a destroyed one
If an old man talks gibberish to you, you betray your friends, family and country and join the enemy side
Helpless villagers who see knights storming into their peaceful town can quickly pull out a few palisades out of their pockets to protect themselves
One single Longbowman can tear down a castle. He just needs to take 5000 arrows out of his magical backpack
Those Frankish Axemen never figured out how to cut down a tree
Fat kings run faster than trained cavalry
If you’re hurt in battle, ask a guy to swing his wand at you and you’re cured within seconds
Trading in the Middle Ages meant: load your cart with gold and give nothing in return
You need wood to build a farm, no seeds and water
You can ram crops and put them on fire

This folks, is what Age Of Empires 2 taught us about history. http://www.cysion.be/aocbox/?p=188 All credit given to Cysion.
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Postby Gim » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:57 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Fat kings run faster than trained cavalry


:rofl:

So true, so true.
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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:57 pm

Gim wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Note the "including expansions" in the poll question

And Forgotten Empires is an expansion. Based off a mod, though.


What's the difference? More nations and maps?

I... I'm not sure really. It has all the same nations, but maybe the mod lacked campaigns? Idk honestly.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:59 pm

Gim wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Fat kings run faster than trained cavalry


:rofl:

So true, so true.

Trading:
Trade cart: Wow, here's a market. Let's go and see what we get.
Marketer: Welcome. Here, take this gold.
Trade cart: Wow, just this?
Marketer: Yes, I'm serious. You don't need to exchange any food or wood to us. Just take this gold and leave!
Trade cart: Oh wow. That was quite strange. And they didn't even want my food in exchange. Oh well.
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Postby Gim » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:00 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Gim wrote:
What's the difference? More nations and maps?

I... I'm not sure really. It has all the same nations, but maybe the mod lacked campaigns? Idk honestly.


If the nations and maps are pretty much the same, I'd just stick to The Conquerors.
Perhaps, AI is different, but I can just get a new AI 2.0 for The Conquerors. :p
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Postby New Tuva SSR » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:02 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Aztec monks wave their skirts to convince soldiers to join their side
A civilisation that starts out with 3 male villagers can still reproduce
Walls break down after a few strikes of a ram, but the stomach of a villager can take a lot more of those
One line of trees will block any unit, no one was brave enough in the Middle Ages to go through a forest
When Huns build a wonder, they make a destroyed one
If an old man talks gibberish to you, you betray your friends, family and country and join the enemy side
Helpless villagers who see knights storming into their peaceful town can quickly pull out a few palisades out of their pockets to protect themselves
One single Longbowman can tear down a castle. He just needs to take 5000 arrows out of his magical backpack
Those Frankish Axemen never figured out how to cut down a tree
Fat kings run faster than trained cavalry
If you’re hurt in battle, ask a guy to swing his wand at you and you’re cured within seconds
Trading in the Middle Ages meant: load your cart with gold and give nothing in return
You need wood to build a farm, no seeds and water
You can ram crops and put them on fire

This folks, is what Age Of Empires 2 taught us about history. http://www.cysion.be/aocbox/?p=188 All credit given to Cysion.

I was just about to post this, too!
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:03 pm

Gim wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:I... I'm not sure really. It has all the same nations, but maybe the mod lacked campaigns? Idk honestly.


If the nations and maps are pretty much the same, I'd just stick to The Conquerors.
Perhaps, AI is different, but I can just get a new AI 2.0 for The Conquerors. :p

There's new civilizations: Italians, Indians, Incas, Magyars, and Slavs, plus new maps and AI that are though as hell.
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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:03 pm

Gim wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:I... I'm not sure really. It has all the same nations, but maybe the mod lacked campaigns? Idk honestly.


If the nations and maps are pretty much the same, I'd just stick to The Conquerors.
Perhaps, AI is different, but I can just get a new AI 2.0 for The Conquerors. :p

Oh, no, I mean, the mod and expansion added the same factions :P
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Postby Cuprum » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:04 pm

0 A.D is a nice Free source ancient warfare game. A nice successor of AOE II

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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:04 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Gim wrote:
If the nations and maps are pretty much the same, I'd just stick to The Conquerors.
Perhaps, AI is different, but I can just get a new AI 2.0 for The Conquerors. :p

There's new civilizations: Italians, Indians, Incas, Magyars, and Slavs, plus new maps and AI that are though as hell.

Finally can play as mother Russia.
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